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Celar 15:55 - Nov 23 with 9720 viewsandrew1302

Has there been a worse striker in a QPR shirt? The man is absolutely useless. We have had some poor strikers but i really think he is amongst the worst. I feel sorry for him. He should not have been bought. It is lamb to the slaughter. He is probably trying his best but his best is League 2 and not his fault. Nourry and Belk or whoever are to blame for him.
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Celar on 13:14 - Nov 24 with 679 viewsWegerles_Stairs

I feel sorry for him which is why we shouldn't be booing him. Ignoring the merits or failings of the Swiss League, the biggest problem is his lack of physicality. Anyone can miss a penalty but from that first game against West Brom, we've seen that he is not a physical old school number nine, which is what we need playing with one up top. That's clearly not his fault and is down to whoever recruited him to play in this system. And the change when Alfie came on and started roughing up their defenders was night and day.
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Celar on 13:21 - Nov 24 with 610 viewsgazza1

Didn't make the game yesterday thanks to TfL but watched the 2nd half on a link when I eventually got home. I have also seen him several times when I have been able to get to the ground.

I do not know why we are making excuses about playing up front on his own, not suited to the physicality and it goes on!!!! The bottom line is he missed a penalty yesterday, that is 100% his fault but it happens, however much of his other play is or has been very limited indeed, pretty poor actually. I doubt he will ever be good enough to play Championship football in this country.
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Celar on 13:32 - Nov 24 with 549 viewsWatford_Ranger

Celar on 23:03 - Nov 23 by Rs_Holy

Adam Czerkas and Stefan Moore were both shockingly bad ... but I'd probably have them above Celar (just).


I’m sure I went to one game where Moore suddenly was quite good before going on to prove he was crap. Ipswich away maybe.

Moore Moore Moore, how do you like it?
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Celar on 14:20 - Nov 24 with 383 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Celar on 13:21 - Nov 24 by gazza1

Didn't make the game yesterday thanks to TfL but watched the 2nd half on a link when I eventually got home. I have also seen him several times when I have been able to get to the ground.

I do not know why we are making excuses about playing up front on his own, not suited to the physicality and it goes on!!!! The bottom line is he missed a penalty yesterday, that is 100% his fault but it happens, however much of his other play is or has been very limited indeed, pretty poor actually. I doubt he will ever be good enough to play Championship football in this country.


But it's true. We need someone to hold the ball up until our (relatively slow) team get up the pitch. Frey can do that, Lyndon (for all his failings) could do it. Celar clearly can't. His highlights reel comprises various goals from inside the area, barely any headers from what I recall. That's it. That's the player. It's not even like he's missed thousands of chances this season, is it? He's just the wrong player at the wrong time.
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Celar on 14:53 - Nov 24 with 280 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Celar on 13:14 - Nov 24 by Wegerles_Stairs

I feel sorry for him which is why we shouldn't be booing him. Ignoring the merits or failings of the Swiss League, the biggest problem is his lack of physicality. Anyone can miss a penalty but from that first game against West Brom, we've seen that he is not a physical old school number nine, which is what we need playing with one up top. That's clearly not his fault and is down to whoever recruited him to play in this system. And the change when Alfie came on and started roughing up their defenders was night and day.


Yeah, agree with this. We had 3 physical forwards in May, by August 2 had gone and replaced with a guy who is the exact opposite.
Just bizarre, and you've gotta feel for him.
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Celar on 14:56 - Nov 24 with 263 viewsdaveB

I thought first 20 minutes Celar was pretty good but the penalty miss killed him and he went missing after that, felt for him, should never have taken it
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Celar on 15:00 - Nov 24 with 224 viewscheeseydane

Celar on 18:05 - Nov 23 by rocknroland

Not being very good at football does not necessarily make him a prick or a cn ut. Some of the comments today were out of order. I love this place. I can't leave the house, so it keeps me connected. But come on...


I was going to say exactly this yesterday but thought better of it. The last time I said a player was being unfairly crucified I ended up receiving hostile pms and all sorts of abuse on here. Thats why I'm just a reader now. FWIW, I can't see how a public wittchhunt will benefit his confidence. Like it or lump it, hes ours and with a very small and limited squad, he will have a part to play, whether you like it or not.

Technology advances, unfortunately humans do not.

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Celar on 15:02 - Nov 24 with 210 viewsJamesB1979

Celar on 15:00 - Nov 24 by cheeseydane

I was going to say exactly this yesterday but thought better of it. The last time I said a player was being unfairly crucified I ended up receiving hostile pms and all sorts of abuse on here. Thats why I'm just a reader now. FWIW, I can't see how a public wittchhunt will benefit his confidence. Like it or lump it, hes ours and with a very small and limited squad, he will have a part to play, whether you like it or not.


What player were you defending. Completely agree with you both by the way. Neither him or Madsen should have been booed either.
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Celar on 15:07 - Nov 24 with 195 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Celar on 12:12 - Nov 24 by BostonR

I think he totalled 7 touches in the whole game including the penalty miss. Marti was right to sub him and he shouldn’t start while Lloyd is fit and willing to run about for the cause. Hopefully, Celar will get a loan back to Switzerland at Xmas - Marti is done with him as are the fans.


Sofascore has it at 14 for Celar, which is still nor great. LLoyd had 14 as a sub.

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Celar on 15:13 - Nov 24 with 161 viewsNorthernr

Celar on 15:07 - Nov 24 by BrianMcCarthy

Sofascore has it at 14 for Celar, which is still nor great. LLoyd had 14 as a sub.


Cannon, same position and role in the opposition, double the touches for five shots on goal, four on target and a goal.
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Celar on 15:18 - Nov 24 with 126 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Celar on 15:13 - Nov 24 by Northernr

Cannon, same position and role in the opposition, double the touches for five shots on goal, four on target and a goal.


Ya, the difference was stark.

Penalty miss aside, I actually thought that Celar was improved yesterday, but it's a low bar.

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Celar on 15:29 - Nov 24 with 78 viewsNorthantsHoop

Celar on 10:35 - Nov 24 by Wegerles_Stairs

Celar did take a decent penalty against Luton in the cup.

I still can't believe the booing though - he didn't mean to miss! Also, nice to see Sam and Koki commiserating with him afterwards. Good team spirit.
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I have watched Celar's penalty a few times now and I am actually wondering did he miss it on purpose. The keeper had pretty much dived the other way at point of contact of foot against ball and half a goal was open the side he placed the penalty. Either his nerves are totally shot or he wants out of this nightmare, which is my thoughts, possibly haven't we all at some time taken a job, either we hate it or are out of our depth and either we just don't perform or don't fit the role, I expect his representatives are looking elsewhere for him . His stats are roughly the same each game with the amount of touches he has, now that is a worrying statistic.
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Celar on 15:38 - Nov 24 with 20 viewsNorthernr

Celar on 15:18 - Nov 24 by BrianMcCarthy

Ya, the difference was stark.

Penalty miss aside, I actually thought that Celar was improved yesterday, but it's a low bar.


Hmmm, I didn't. And as has been noted elsewhere, his lazy stroll back down the field that got him flagged offside on the hour properly flipped Marti's cog and got him taken off.
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