| Out of contract (again) 16:33 - Feb 5 with 4517 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
I was just thinking of the players out of contract in the coming summer:
Cook
Fox
Paal
Colback
Anderson
Frey
Dunne (who knows)
Plus, the loans going back Edwards 😪 , Yang, and Saito (who knows).
Worryingly, all of them bar Anderson played some part last night.
That is a lot of experience going at one time, and our defence will be decimated.
There is nothing defensively in DS pushing through, so it looks a busy summer coming up wheeling and a dealing. [Post edited 5 Feb 21:37]
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| Out of contract (again) on 12:38 - Feb 6 with 1206 views | GaryHaddock |
Does someone keep a spreadsheet somewhere?
How do you know / remember all this? [Post edited 6 Feb 12:42]
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| Out of contract (again) on 14:27 - Feb 6 with 1060 views | TheChef |
Always feels like Cook is ancient but he's "only" 33. I'd keep him.
Absolutely keep Frey.
Also tempted to keep Fox as he can deputise well at CB or LB, on the whole.
Keep Dunne.
Fine either way with Paal.
Release Colback and Andersen.
Of the loans I think only Saito is realistic of signing permanently. Yang will go back. Edwards would be great but very unlikely to happen. |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 14:47 - Feb 6 with 1023 views | TK1 |
| Out of contract (again) on 14:27 - Feb 6 by TheChef |
Always feels like Cook is ancient but he's "only" 33. I'd keep him.
Absolutely keep Frey.
Also tempted to keep Fox as he can deputise well at CB or LB, on the whole.
Keep Dunne.
Fine either way with Paal.
Release Colback and Andersen.
Of the loans I think only Saito is realistic of signing permanently. Yang will go back. Edwards would be great but very unlikely to happen. |
Keeping Cook and Frey: how many other positions that QPR need to fill will their wages deny?
Cook will be 34 in April. Frey will be 31 in July. They have both missed significant periods of football in the last two seasons with injuries.
They both seem like good guys, and they're very useful footballers. But they are not going to get fitter or faster - quite the reverse - and this next contract is the last for both, so they won't be cheaper either. They will cost the club millions between them each season and (particularly in Cook's position) they stop younger players coming through.
I doubt we'll keep either, but I'd be *amazed* if we keep both. | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 14:49 - Feb 6 with 1012 views | TheChef |
| Out of contract (again) on 14:47 - Feb 6 by TK1 |
Keeping Cook and Frey: how many other positions that QPR need to fill will their wages deny?
Cook will be 34 in April. Frey will be 31 in July. They have both missed significant periods of football in the last two seasons with injuries.
They both seem like good guys, and they're very useful footballers. But they are not going to get fitter or faster - quite the reverse - and this next contract is the last for both, so they won't be cheaper either. They will cost the club millions between them each season and (particularly in Cook's position) they stop younger players coming through.
I doubt we'll keep either, but I'd be *amazed* if we keep both. |
Frey is scoring goals though - and that is difficult and expensive to replace.
I'd like Cook to stay, but can live with him leaving. Decent CBs should be easier to recruit. | |
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| Out of contract (again) on 15:50 - Feb 6 with 891 views | TK1 |
| Out of contract (again) on 14:49 - Feb 6 by TheChef |
Frey is scoring goals though - and that is difficult and expensive to replace.
I'd like Cook to stay, but can live with him leaving. Decent CBs should be easier to recruit. |
Frey's scored six goals in 20 league games this season. One assist. I mean, it's OK if you're the second striker on £3k a week. He is not remotely on £3k a week.
For context, Rayan Kolli has scored four goals in 15 league appearances, two assists. He's 11 years younger and not really a lone striker.
So it's not like replacing Clive Allen, even if Frey does an important job currently. But nobody had heard of him before we signed him and we can definitely find someone else we've never heard of who can do the same job who's a bit younger and quite a lot cheaper.
And we replaced Clive Allen with Gary Bannister, so even that was possible.
I think Cook's experience and leadership is actually much harder to replace, so maybe they'll keep him. | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 15:58 - Feb 6 with 855 views | TheChef |
| Out of contract (again) on 15:50 - Feb 6 by TK1 |
Frey's scored six goals in 20 league games this season. One assist. I mean, it's OK if you're the second striker on £3k a week. He is not remotely on £3k a week.
For context, Rayan Kolli has scored four goals in 15 league appearances, two assists. He's 11 years younger and not really a lone striker.
So it's not like replacing Clive Allen, even if Frey does an important job currently. But nobody had heard of him before we signed him and we can definitely find someone else we've never heard of who can do the same job who's a bit younger and quite a lot cheaper.
And we replaced Clive Allen with Gary Bannister, so even that was possible.
I think Cook's experience and leadership is actually much harder to replace, so maybe they'll keep him. |
If you say so - I just don't think finding and affording good strikers is as easy as you think. | |
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| Out of contract (again) on 16:11 - Feb 6 with 822 views | TK1 |
He'll be 31! He's on over five figures a week (and the rest). It's do-able. | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 16:16 - Feb 6 with 797 views | TheChef |
| Out of contract (again) on 16:11 - Feb 6 by TK1 |
He'll be 31! He's on over five figures a week (and the rest). It's do-able. |
Not saying it's not doable - just think it's very difficult and expensive. And Frey has shown he knows where the goal is, say compared to Dykes.
I've no idea either what Frey's weekly wage is, it may not be that expensive. | |
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| Out of contract (again) on 16:27 - Feb 6 with 781 views | sandsofporto |
I asked about this earlier in the season if anyone knows whether we had an option to sign him. For me it is a big Yes, very tricky gives 100% and that goal he scored against Hull wow, i think with another season under his belt he could get 5-10 goals a season. | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 16:39 - Feb 6 with 743 views | TK1 |
| Out of contract (again) on 16:16 - Feb 6 by TheChef |
Not saying it's not doable - just think it's very difficult and expensive. And Frey has shown he knows where the goal is, say compared to Dykes.
I've no idea either what Frey's weekly wage is, it may not be that expensive. |
He's the only player in the history of football whose wage I know for a fact: think of a sum you imagine he might be on per week, double it, add some more money to it. | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 16:50 - Feb 6 with 699 views | OldPedro |
| Out of contract (again) on 16:39 - Feb 6 by TK1 |
He's the only player in the history of football whose wage I know for a fact: think of a sum you imagine he might be on per week, double it, add some more money to it. |
Wasn't the story that we basically didn't pay him for the half a season he was with us last season and that any wage we were paying him this year was, in effect to cover half of last season as well? |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 16:52 - Feb 6 with 679 views | TK1 |
| Out of contract (again) on 16:50 - Feb 6 by OldPedro |
Wasn't the story that we basically didn't pay him for the half a season he was with us last season and that any wage we were paying him this year was, in effect to cover half of last season as well? |
It's definitely more than one player's wages, so that would make sense. | | | |
| Out of contract (again) on 16:56 - Feb 6 with 647 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Out of contract (again) on 16:50 - Feb 6 by OldPedro |
Wasn't the story that we basically didn't pay him for the half a season he was with us last season and that any wage we were paying him this year was, in effect to cover half of last season as well? |
That was the rumour alright.
So - if it was actually zero for the second half of last season - one third of this year's wage might be late payment for last season.
Also, not sure we'd be obliged to offer him as much for next season. |  |
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| Out of contract (again) on 20:20 - Feb 6 with 504 views | Match82 |
| Out of contract (again) on 12:31 - Feb 6 by Watford_Ranger |
What does a goal weigh these days? |
Are you asking us to convert things using the goal standard? |  | | |
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