| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 15:54 - Nov 22 with 3390 views | 442Dale |
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Harvey in his interview said Jim wants them to shoot more and practice in training |
And would argue that we did have enough shots from good positions to have scored more. From memory Barlow, Pettit and Dieseruvwe all should have done better with their efforts in the first half alone.
It was very noticeable how many crosses we got in today too. More clinical, more ruthless, whatever we want to call it, we have to improve in the box because we are creating enough to score more. |  |
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And would argue that we did have enough shots from good positions to have scored more. From memory Barlow, Pettit and Dieseruvwe all should have done better with their efforts in the first half alone.
It was very noticeable how many crosses we got in today too. More clinical, more ruthless, whatever we want to call it, we have to improve in the box because we are creating enough to score more. |
Didn't watch the match, but how did we line up once East replaced Allarhakia? Did we adopt a midfield three? |  |
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 16:46 - Nov 22 with 3156 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
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Harvey in his interview said Jim wants them to shoot more and practice in training |
......and so do the fans, it creates more atmosphere with a good thunder-blaster or two.
Young Beckwith knows how to do it. |  | | |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 16:47 - Nov 22 with 3143 views | 442Dale |
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Didn't watch the match, but how did we line up once East replaced Allarhakia? Did we adopt a midfield three? |
Moss was the one who came on for Allarakhia, with TAR going to LWB and Moss on the right. East was a direct replacement for Barlow and played on the right initially. However when Amantchi came on for the last few mins he joined Dieseruvwe up front with East dropping deeper. | |
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 16:50 - Nov 22 with 3129 views | 442Dale |
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......and so do the fans, it creates more atmosphere with a good thunder-blaster or two.
Young Beckwith knows how to do it. |
Going off his passing today, they’d only hit the corner flag. | |
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 17:05 - Nov 22 with 3046 views | D_Alien |
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Moss was the one who came on for Allarakhia, with TAR going to LWB and Moss on the right. East was a direct replacement for Barlow and played on the right initially. However when Amantchi came on for the last few mins he joined Dieseruvwe up front with East dropping deeper. |
Cheers. that makes more sense (got my info from the BBC website)
Would you keep the Gilmour/Pettit combo, or maybe a midfield three including East? | |
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 17:29 - Nov 22 with 2931 views | BigKindo |
.and now the top 7 are 5 points clear of Pools in 8th. |  | | |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 17:34 - Nov 22 with 2897 views | 442Dale |
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Cheers. that makes more sense (got my info from the BBC website)
Would you keep the Gilmour/Pettit combo, or maybe a midfield three including East? |
First option for now. East may have to get used to playing the role of sub for a while.
The midfield three may have a part to play during games though, at least it now looks like an option. | |
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 17:51 - Nov 22 with 2823 views | richfoad32 |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 14:00 - Nov 22 by 49thseason |
Jim doesn't do shooting he's more a tap-in kinda guy.....Shooting is crude and unpolished, tap-ins are stylish and cool..... |
I think management take the Moneyball approach to games and play the percentages. How many goals are scored from certain positions, for every Beckwith worldie theres's 3 or 4 Allarakhiah's that end up in the back in the stand after shooooooooooooooooting. Hard to argue with the results. Saying that they should work on finishing is just redundant because they probably do, they're National League players for a reason. | | | |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 17:51 - Nov 22 with 2824 views | BillyRudd |
Theres a simple solution to improving our goals to chances ratio. Give the GOAT more pitch time. To put Amantchi on ahead of Henderson in the dying minutes was a joke. As exemplified in injury time when he recieved the ball in acres of space with plenty of time to make a pass only to mis- control it, got disposessed and then committed a foul which allowed them to lump it into the box. We needed guile and nous at the end. The GOAT gives you that. | | | |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 18:13 - Nov 22 with 2742 views | Daley_Lama |
Tamworth brought Tonks on in the 75th minute chasing the game for one reason. Long thow ins
Tamworth brought on Lynch up front in the 83rd minute for same reason.
Tamworth launched every free kick direct.
I can see and 100% agree why BJ brought Amanchi on rather than Hendo at 2-1. |  |
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 18:19 - Nov 22 with 2696 views | dingdangblue |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 15:43 - Nov 22 by seasidedale |
Harvey in his interview said Jim wants them to shoot more and practice in training |
He may say that but definitely 1 occasion in the 2nd half the ball was worked really well to Gilmour on the edge of the box near the D in space and he could easily have shot yet he decided to work the ball wide again. If Jim does want them to shoot more then these are the occasions we need to take that opportunity. |  |
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 19:12 - Nov 22 with 2512 views | NorthernDale |
Apparently McNulty did not want to risk Rodney on the artificial pitch, because he has a history of picking up muscle injuries on artificial pitches.
However today was a good win and the results went in our favour as well, besides the Carlisle result. [Post edited 22 Nov 19:20]
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 19:20 - Nov 22 with 2469 views | D_Alien |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 19:12 - Nov 22 by NorthernDale |
Apparently McNulty did not want to risk Rodney on the artificial pitch, because he has a history of picking up muscle injuries on artificial pitches.
However today was a good win and the results went in our favour as well, besides the Carlisle result. [Post edited 22 Nov 19:20]
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Carlisle take a late lead and join us on 43pts but the main thing is we're back on top of the pile
Rivals are jockeying for position, but none of them deserve to be above us
It was good to see JM making that change in midfield today. Pragmatic, which is what's needed. The heavier winter pitches will suit a more solid Pettit-based midfield [Post edited 22 Nov 19:24]
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 20:19 - Nov 22 with 2253 views | Daley_Lama |
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Carlisle take a late lead and join us on 43pts but the main thing is we're back on top of the pile
Rivals are jockeying for position, but none of them deserve to be above us
It was good to see JM making that change in midfield today. Pragmatic, which is what's needed. The heavier winter pitches will suit a more solid Pettit-based midfield [Post edited 22 Nov 19:24]
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Top of this division is mental.
5 teams have more than 2 points per game.
Arsenal and Coventry are the only other two teams in that position. | |
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 21:11 - Nov 22 with 2070 views | Sandyman |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 08:05 - Nov 22 by griff |
Boo! Obvious bias alert. How can your game be reffed by somebody called DALE?! |
I think his first name is really Tamworth. Shockingly inconsistent and favoured the home side massively.
A hard fought for three points, but how many shooting opportunities were wasted that would have a least offered the possibility of a goal if taken up? Could have made the game much easier on the pitch, and to watch off the pitch.
Was more a feeling of relief than joy when referee Tamworth blew the final whistle.
That said, top of the league will do very very nicely. Well done Dale (The team, not the ref). |  | | |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 23:33 - Nov 22 with 1742 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
A final point about shooting/scoring more goals.....we are top of the League tonight courtesy of one important thing, Goal Difference. We are 5+ over Carlisle but 7- free scoring York City.
It's so tight at the top that it could be a decider come the end of the season.
As Confuscius said "Get it in the Onion Bag" (translated from Chinese) | | | |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 00:00 - Nov 23 with 1668 views | 442Dale |
Whilst York look like they’re going to out score everyone this season, the rest are at the same level at present.
Our goal difference would be much closer to York’s had that six goal swing not occurred recently. We just have to start taking more of the chances when on top. | |
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 05:30 - Nov 23 with 1502 views | TalkingSutty |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 00:00 - Nov 23 by 442Dale |
Whilst York look like they’re going to out score everyone this season, the rest are at the same level at present.
Our goal difference would be much closer to York’s had that six goal swing not occurred recently. We just have to start taking more of the chances when on top. |
I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that McNulty has a conundrum to solve when it comes to the make up of the squad, it's still there. i don't think we are good enough in the final third and our back up options are very limited. Yesterday we had one available recognised goalscoring threat in the squad. Henderson has been put out to grass, it's not fair to suddenly expect him to start popping in goals. McNulty clearly doesn't want to play him anyway and prefers Amantchi as a better option. Amantchi provides no goal threat, he's not good enough and hasn't scored this season. Smith could be out until mid January, with a hamstring it might be longer. How long will it then take him to get up to speed? So that's three forwards in Smith, Amantchi, Hendo who for different reasons aren't contributing to the cause. Rodney couldn't play yesterday in a very important game because his body isn't up to it, he's fragile and could break down at any time. I like Rodney but he also blows hot and cold as we know.
So when you analyse that forward line it's a right mish mash and there's only Mani you can rely on. It was highlighted yesterday, we were toothless in the final third. So it's great that McNulty is managing Rodney because he can't play on plastic pitches but in effect he has to field a weakened team because of it. We can get away with it against the weaker teams but to get out of this league i think we need to carry more of an attacking threat, forwards who strike fear into our opponents and know where the net is. The amount of clear cut chances we fluff, shooting opportunities we decline is criminal and it undermines all the great approach play, we should have been 5-0 up at Carlisle in the first half. If the coaches can improve us in that department we will go up another level...i'm not sure Jim will even identify it as a problem though but you would like to think he does if he's big on analysis. Regularly missing chances will come back to bite us if it carries on, especially in the tight games against better opposition. You can't teach the natural instinct of a goalscorer and we are short in that department now that Hendo is more or less retired and not starting games
I think we need reinforcements up front to provide more goal threat and as the lads alluded to on the podcast we also need another central defender. I'm assuming we are strengthening again in the Summer as part of the three year plan, if targets become available over the next month or two i wonder if there will be leeway to sign them earlier in the hope of turning the three year plan into two. It's not my money but strengthening a few months earlier for the league run in could prove very cost effective and promotion would soften the cost implications of repairing the pitch. I think we're only two decent forwards and one defender away from being the finished article now. The teams carrying the biggest threat in the final third wil probably go up this year and at the moment i think we're lacking in comparison to York and Carlisle. I appreciate signing the right players is easier said than done, maybe there's a rough diamond in the league below who would fit the bill. In the next eighteen months i think four of the current top six clubs will probably be promoted and strengthening our attack will be the key to us being one of those clubs. [Post edited 23 Nov 6:52]
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I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that McNulty has a conundrum to solve when it comes to the make up of the squad, it's still there. i don't think we are good enough in the final third and our back up options are very limited. Yesterday we had one available recognised goalscoring threat in the squad. Henderson has been put out to grass, it's not fair to suddenly expect him to start popping in goals. McNulty clearly doesn't want to play him anyway and prefers Amantchi as a better option. Amantchi provides no goal threat, he's not good enough and hasn't scored this season. Smith could be out until mid January, with a hamstring it might be longer. How long will it then take him to get up to speed? So that's three forwards in Smith, Amantchi, Hendo who for different reasons aren't contributing to the cause. Rodney couldn't play yesterday in a very important game because his body isn't up to it, he's fragile and could break down at any time. I like Rodney but he also blows hot and cold as we know.
So when you analyse that forward line it's a right mish mash and there's only Mani you can rely on. It was highlighted yesterday, we were toothless in the final third. So it's great that McNulty is managing Rodney because he can't play on plastic pitches but in effect he has to field a weakened team because of it. We can get away with it against the weaker teams but to get out of this league i think we need to carry more of an attacking threat, forwards who strike fear into our opponents and know where the net is. The amount of clear cut chances we fluff, shooting opportunities we decline is criminal and it undermines all the great approach play, we should have been 5-0 up at Carlisle in the first half. If the coaches can improve us in that department we will go up another level...i'm not sure Jim will even identify it as a problem though but you would like to think he does if he's big on analysis. Regularly missing chances will come back to bite us if it carries on, especially in the tight games against better opposition. You can't teach the natural instinct of a goalscorer and we are short in that department now that Hendo is more or less retired and not starting games
I think we need reinforcements up front to provide more goal threat and as the lads alluded to on the podcast we also need another central defender. I'm assuming we are strengthening again in the Summer as part of the three year plan, if targets become available over the next month or two i wonder if there will be leeway to sign them earlier in the hope of turning the three year plan into two. It's not my money but strengthening a few months earlier for the league run in could prove very cost effective and promotion would soften the cost implications of repairing the pitch. I think we're only two decent forwards and one defender away from being the finished article now. The teams carrying the biggest threat in the final third wil probably go up this year and at the moment i think we're lacking in comparison to York and Carlisle. I appreciate signing the right players is easier said than done, maybe there's a rough diamond in the league below who would fit the bill. In the next eighteen months i think four of the current top six clubs will probably be promoted and strengthening our attack will be the key to us being one of those clubs. [Post edited 23 Nov 6:52]
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Spot on TS
Perfect examples of the kind of strengthening you describe would be Tony Buck in the 1968/69 campaign and COG in 2009/10
These were goalscorers with pedigree. They didn't come cheap but the costs of just falling short would've been far more expensive
What's needed, up front in particular, is not another hopeful wannabee like Amantchi (or i'd argue even Smith) but a genuine finisher. I still think Hendo could play a part, but more likely at the back end of the season when winter pitches aren't a factor. We can't wait till then though [Post edited 23 Nov 7:05]
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| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 07:03 - Nov 23 with 1407 views | KingKeef |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 15:43 - Nov 22 by seasidedale |
Harvey in his interview said Jim wants them to shoot more and practice in training |
Is that shooting in practice or when 3 points are at stake? | | | |
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Spot on TS
Perfect examples of the kind of strengthening you describe would be Tony Buck in the 1968/69 campaign and COG in 2009/10
These were goalscorers with pedigree. They didn't come cheap but the costs of just falling short would've been far more expensive
What's needed, up front in particular, is not another hopeful wannabee like Amantchi (or i'd argue even Smith) but a genuine finisher. I still think Hendo could play a part, but more likely at the back end of the season when winter pitches aren't a factor. We can't wait till then though [Post edited 23 Nov 7:05]
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Yes agree. I haven't seen enough of Smith but in the games i did he looked short on fitness. I have a feeling he could be a useful signing but one of those players who has to be at optimum fitness to produce his best form. Not sure about his goal tally at his other clubs or his injury record neither. Your COG example is a great one, i'm too young to have seen Buck play.
Edit..just looked at Smiths career stats and yes he can put a run of games together and score goals, pity we lost him to injury so early. [Post edited 23 Nov 7:35]
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Yes agree. I haven't seen enough of Smith but in the games i did he looked short on fitness. I have a feeling he could be a useful signing but one of those players who has to be at optimum fitness to produce his best form. Not sure about his goal tally at his other clubs or his injury record neither. Your COG example is a great one, i'm too young to have seen Buck play.
Edit..just looked at Smiths career stats and yes he can put a run of games together and score goals, pity we lost him to injury so early. [Post edited 23 Nov 7:35]
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I think an additional striker is vital.
As much as Mani delivers id be very surprised if he doesn't get another ban or 2 before the season is out. | | | |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 09:22 - Nov 23 with 1165 views | Dale_4_Life |
A little off the pace last week v Shots but picked up 3 points by the odd goal 1-0
A little off the pace yesterday v Tamworth but picked up 3 points by the odd goal 2-1.
2 wins consecutively when not really firing is heartening.
I did not see the game yesterday but hopeful Mani / Rodney plus midfield goal contributions keep up the winning habit.
Scunthorpe and Forest Green the sides this week dropping points. | | | |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 09:36 - Nov 23 with 1121 views | TalkingSutty |
| Refwatch - Tamworth v Rochdale on 09:22 - Nov 23 by Dale_4_Life |
A little off the pace last week v Shots but picked up 3 points by the odd goal 1-0
A little off the pace yesterday v Tamworth but picked up 3 points by the odd goal 2-1.
2 wins consecutively when not really firing is heartening.
I did not see the game yesterday but hopeful Mani / Rodney plus midfield goal contributions keep up the winning habit.
Scunthorpe and Forest Green the sides this week dropping points. |
I was at the game yesterday and it was a dog of a day, horrible weather, plastic pitch, early kick off and opponents who use all of those things to their advantage. It had the feeling of one of those classic FA Cup ties against a fancied underdog, except Tamworth are better than that having beaten Boreham Wood away in their last fixture. The standout for me yesterday was the players attitude, they embraced all of those challenges rather than looking for a excuse to put in a poor performance and the win was well deserved. We missed a second striker though, Mani is easier to handle when he's on his own. | | | |
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