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Child poverty 2 child benefit cap abolished 17:08 - Nov 26 with 3055 viewsReslovenSwan1

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyx4ggyj44o

The two child benefit cap came in under Osbourne and Cameron after the press had highlighted several family's living the good life with ,20 children and counting. Reeves does not remember this probably.

If she did remember it she would raise the 2 child cap to a 5 child cap. It is just rank bad politics. The Daily Express will already be getting reports from the 24 people sized family none of whom have ever done a day's work. It is a gift for Reform as Asians traditionally have big families too..

The definition of " child poverty" is weak also as it is a percentage 60% of the average. As far as I understand it since it is a percentage "abolish Child poverty" is a mathematical Impossibility. Idea for mathematically illiterate Socialist s like Diane Abbott.

If people want to call me out I will point out that I probably was raised in child poverty in real terms not percentages due to going without and having to graft on a very rudimentary farm in Carmarthenshire where gard physical work was required. It gave me a work ethic and ambition. It was dirty cold and not very comfortable..

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Child poverty 2 child benefit cap abolished on 16:14 - Dec 5 with 132 viewsAnotherJohn

Child poverty 2 child benefit cap abolished on 12:47 - Dec 5 by felixstowe_jack

Another increase in our benefits bill just announced taking effect from April is a 4.8% increase, to £6,800 a year, for each additional wife in polygamous marriages.

This is despite bigamy being illegal in this country. Apparently we recognise and pay for extra wives in certain religions.


That caught my eye too (see earlier in thread). The mind boggles when one considers the possible intersection of benefits in a household with one unemployed and disabled husband, three wives (possibly with their own health issues) and a large brood of kids from the three mothers. At the extreme I imagine it could happen.
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Child poverty 2 child benefit cap abolished on 21:24 - Dec 5 with 25 viewsmax936

Child poverty 2 child benefit cap abolished on 22:55 - Dec 4 by Dr_Winston

It's not even a nationality thing. For a number of years, possibly decades, there has been a push to ensure that people on low incomes, whether that be social security or menial jobs, get the same financial benefits as anyone else.

That needs to end. Any functional economy needs to reward work, needs to reward self improvement, needs to reward contribution. Otherwise we're basically f*cked. If you're dependent on benefits then yes, you shouldn't be able to afford to enjoy life as much as someone earning a decent full time salary. That's exactly as it should be.

I've worked with people with serious health issues. From brain injury caused disabilities to Dwarfism (that poor sod had to have his back medically broken every couple of years just to stay upright). Any of these people could have chosen to sit on their arses and live off benefits but chose to work instead.

That's the standard that should be set for everyone.
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It depends on the mentality of the person, how many times have you heard people say that it doesn't pay me to work I'm better off on benefits, and without doubt some have the very same thought, I've been out of work on occasions over those 48 yrs and taken jobs just to keep my stress levels manageable, stuck one job for 12yrs in steelworks working for a t@at, until I'd had a gets full after they put some of us on a 4 day week and went back to college and re did my qualifications and not looked back since, that was 2016.

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