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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? 13:42 - Dec 28 with 1150 viewsnumptydumpty

Plenty of times in the past when our first team goalkeeper has been having an awful game, a la Tony Roberts, or Jo Lumley with an assist or three for the opposition, and yet they still remain on the pitch, despite having an absolute shocker.

Also different goalkeepers have very different qualities. Nardi can shot stop but claiming a high cross - not for him - so a change of goalkeeper, when the opposition are overloading the box with 6 foot 4 giants, makes sense. They are only ever subbed though, if they are injured.

I mean, currently we are in the highly unusual position of having had three different goalkeepers start over the last two months, when all have been available at some points within this two month period.

Now, that there are five permissible substitutes in any given game, that can be made, why not occasionally sub a goalkeeper for tactical or performance issues. Its almost like we dont want to hurt the goalies feelings.

Its a position on the pitch like all the other ten players in the team. And we are never not worried about hurting all of the ten outfield players' feelings. Substitutes are generally made, so we can change the outcome of a game in our favour or to preserve the status quo, unless forced on us, by way of injuries.

So, is anyone ITK, as to why this scenario always persists, and the reasoning, as to why goalkeeping substitutes are never made - injuries permitting - even when the net custodian is having an absolute mare ???


Its all very strange !!!
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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 14:56 - Dec 28 with 1004 viewsNorthernr

I'd never actually thought of it, but you're right you never see a keeper hooked while playing poorly in the same way as outfielders do you? It is a bit odd if you think about it.


Actually, it has happened, and it didn't go very well.



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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 15:41 - Dec 28 with 920 viewsSnipper

I’d say the reason for not subbing them is if something should happen to the goalie coming on. You then wouldn’t have a replacement on the bench.
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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 15:42 - Dec 28 with 915 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Difficult to sub a goalie if he's not injured because it can only be an indication that he's had a mare and it can't be good for their confidence. Apart from subbing one at the end of a cup match because you have a penalty-saving specialist on the bench (like the Dutch did), it's like incest, the last taboo.
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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 15:43 - Dec 28 with 915 viewsDorse

You occasionally see teams make goalkeeping substitutions in tournament football, if they are facing a penalty shoot out but I can't think of a time I've ever seen a keeper hooked for having a 'mare.

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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 16:52 - Dec 28 with 816 viewsNorthernr

Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 15:41 - Dec 28 by Snipper

I’d say the reason for not subbing them is if something should happen to the goalie coming on. You then wouldn’t have a replacement on the bench.


Unless Redknapp's in charge.
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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 13:04 - Dec 29 with 510 viewsnumptydumpty

Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 16:52 - Dec 28 by Northernr

Unless Redknapp's in charge.


Well one of Warburton's games, to make a point to Les and the Board, he named two goalkeepers on the bench.

It is very strange goalkeepers only brought on if an injury and the reason given for meaning its risking a goalkeeper not being in reserve anymore if that goalkeeper is a sub himself.

Well how often do we see goalkeepers replaced because of a an injury, once or twice every five seasons at best.

I wonder if there is also a written rule prohibiting replacements for tactical reasons. Am assuming there must be.
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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 19:57 - Dec 30 with 248 viewsMyke

Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 15:41 - Dec 28 by Snipper

I’d say the reason for not subbing them is if something should happen to the goalie coming on. You then wouldn’t have a replacement on the bench.


This, obviously. It’s a specialist position unlike anywhere else on the pitch. If a goalkeeper makes a howler it is almost certainly a goal, anywhere else on the pitch the situation is retrievable, or may be a missed ‘sitter’ .
Also, you don’t hear of outfield players being comfortable playing in goal any more like Niall Quinn to name one. used to be. So you change the goalkeeper for tactical reasons , sub goalie gets hurt, you are in trouble.
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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 20:51 - Dec 30 with 186 viewsNorthernr

Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 19:57 - Dec 30 by Myke

This, obviously. It’s a specialist position unlike anywhere else on the pitch. If a goalkeeper makes a howler it is almost certainly a goal, anywhere else on the pitch the situation is retrievable, or may be a missed ‘sitter’ .
Also, you don’t hear of outfield players being comfortable playing in goal any more like Niall Quinn to name one. used to be. So you change the goalkeeper for tactical reasons , sub goalie gets hurt, you are in trouble.


Maybe this'll be the next "marginal gain" some tiresome toss pot like Thomas Frank comes up with. Two GK subs on the bench and starts routinely subbing the starter on 60 minutes. Once we've introduced seven subs a game for player welfare reasons, naturally.
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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 21:07 - Dec 30 with 159 viewsbosh67

I'd say that in some games we should have two keepers. One to come out and catch crosses and the other one to make saves.

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Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 21:38 - Dec 30 with 130 viewsnumptydumpty

Subbing a Goalkeeper - Why is it only done for Injuries ?? on 21:07 - Dec 30 by bosh67

I'd say that in some games we should have two keepers. One to come out and catch crosses and the other one to make saves.


You might be onto something there Bosh.

Strange though if as is the case with most teams now, when its a three game week or more, how come we dont protect our goalkeepers also.

Actually agreed with Stainrod on the match thread. i would have subbed Hamer as was very weak i felt on potentially both goals.

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