| Sam field 09:26 - Jan 21 with 3268 views | wombat |
With us now being down to one halfish fit left back and esquedina being out for a period of time , do we let him go this window ? id say no he covers to many postions in the squad esp left back , and one of the few central midfield players who does actually try and get into the oppostions box . |  |
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| Sam field on 09:56 - Jan 23 with 650 views | nix |
| Sam field on 08:32 - Jan 23 by Loyalitat |
Yep. Yet more evidence of the levels of hubris that seem to pervade through this club in a number of areas at present, displayed by those in authority.
Add that to the sale of Sam Field being in their contemplation, a player who I believe, along with Hayden, are better partners for Madsen than Varane, as they are both far more diligent in their defensive duties than Varane is.
Hayden has started 6 league games, in which he has played his part in 4 shut-outs. [Post edited 23 Jan 8:37]
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Except that Varane has done almost double the number of tackles, clearances and interceptions per 90 minutes compared to either of the other two (according to Sofascore). I’m sure that’s why he gets picked ahead of them.
We have to sell him if a decent offer comes in to keep up the plans to develop and build over time. But certainly defensively we would miss JV from the team. |  | | |
| Sam field on 10:03 - Jan 23 with 621 views | JamesB1979 |
| Sam field on 09:56 - Jan 23 by nix |
Except that Varane has done almost double the number of tackles, clearances and interceptions per 90 minutes compared to either of the other two (according to Sofascore). I’m sure that’s why he gets picked ahead of them.
We have to sell him if a decent offer comes in to keep up the plans to develop and build over time. But certainly defensively we would miss JV from the team. |
Yeah Varane gets way too much grief. There’s a reason why Stephan sees him as first choice. |  | | |
| Sam field on 10:04 - Jan 23 with 622 views | dm97 |
Selling Sam Field doesn’t help the model. You’re getting a couple million at best, which doesn’t move the needle for future spending and you’re not selling the kind of player you want to be selling (I.e. Premier league potential, younger etc).
The more damning indictment for me is the contract award for him and Frey, multiple times (and down the line potentially Smyth). If we’re no longer what manager wants manager gets, then why give two players a new contract and 6 months later (when the manager doesn’t fancy them) you’re offloading?
How is that in line with a CEo/DoF who makes those calls? Why is JS current selection now dictating transfer policy? How is that any different to where we were a decade ago?
It screams panic about financial outlays and perhaps that they’re worried the big sale this summer isn’t coming. Kelman and Eze got them out of a hole last summer, Frey and Field aren’t buttering those same parsnips I’m afraid [Post edited 23 Jan 10:04]
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| Sam field on 10:18 - Jan 23 with 554 views | wombat |
| Sam field on 10:03 - Jan 23 by JamesB1979 |
Yeah Varane gets way too much grief. There’s a reason why Stephan sees him as first choice. |
yep money and a possible large payback on wht we paid for him , its not on football ability this season , hes regressed badly from the player who went into the second half of the season last year , negative , poor on the ball.
the clubs playing russian roulette buy cheap sell at the right price or hopefully higher , we struck lucky with kelman have a stella season and got way more money than hes worth. we are now praying that
Kone
Madson
Varanne
Burrrell
do the same or its gonna be a tough few seasons without a few big sells ons, esp when as usual the club still havent got a perm left back in after how many years now ?
everyone was saying what a fantastic job the club is doing buying cheap and hopefully selling big , well id guess its gonna be squeeky bum time for some until it happens if it does. hopefuly it does [Post edited 23 Jan 10:22]
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| Sam field on 10:30 - Jan 23 with 506 views | nick_hammersmith |
If Field leaves it'll be undisclosed, so we are all basically guessing.
Most likely ~£500k which isn't really worth it, as could we replace him for that money?
The only way it makes sense is if he wants to leave and is on a high wage that we want to shift.
The club does need to sell to feed the conveyor belt though and we don't have many fit surplus to requirements players |  | | |
| Sam field on 10:44 - Jan 23 with 451 views | PlanetHonneywood |
I'd be sad to see him go.
He always shows up, puts a shift in, and often during the mire, he has stood out. He's the right sort, and Lord knows we could have done with more of his type over the years! |  |
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| Sam field on 11:10 - Jan 23 with 382 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Sam field on 10:04 - Jan 23 by dm97 |
Selling Sam Field doesn’t help the model. You’re getting a couple million at best, which doesn’t move the needle for future spending and you’re not selling the kind of player you want to be selling (I.e. Premier league potential, younger etc).
The more damning indictment for me is the contract award for him and Frey, multiple times (and down the line potentially Smyth). If we’re no longer what manager wants manager gets, then why give two players a new contract and 6 months later (when the manager doesn’t fancy them) you’re offloading?
How is that in line with a CEo/DoF who makes those calls? Why is JS current selection now dictating transfer policy? How is that any different to where we were a decade ago?
It screams panic about financial outlays and perhaps that they’re worried the big sale this summer isn’t coming. Kelman and Eze got them out of a hole last summer, Frey and Field aren’t buttering those same parsnips I’m afraid [Post edited 23 Jan 10:04]
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The Frey situation was/is quite bizarre but I don’t think we can knock re-signing the likes of Field and Smyth much. 27 & 28, both in theory in their prime, neither commanding ridiculous wages you’d hope and both would cost a chunk to replace along with the intangible ‘good blokes to have around’ factor. Smyth of all our wingers is still the one I’d pick except Chair if he counts as a winger which probably says more about the others than him. Still bizarre he’s mainly playing on the left. [Post edited 23 Jan 11:11]
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| Sam field on 11:15 - Jan 23 with 360 views | dm97 |
| Sam field on 11:10 - Jan 23 by Watford_Ranger |
The Frey situation was/is quite bizarre but I don’t think we can knock re-signing the likes of Field and Smyth much. 27 & 28, both in theory in their prime, neither commanding ridiculous wages you’d hope and both would cost a chunk to replace along with the intangible ‘good blokes to have around’ factor. Smyth of all our wingers is still the one I’d pick except Chair if he counts as a winger which probably says more about the others than him. Still bizarre he’s mainly playing on the left. [Post edited 23 Jan 11:11]
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Don’t get me wrong I’m not knocking the re-signing in principle, it’s resigning them and then deciding 6 months later that, because they’re not in the managers plans, we need to get rid. I only included Smyth because he’s the same mould who could be bombed out by the guy who comes after JS.
I just think it’s an example of where the current suits talk a good game but at times don’t execute what they’re telling us. Same with injuries. We get gaslit a lot imo | | | |
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| Sam field on 11:16 - Jan 23 with 358 views | TheChef |
| Sam field on 11:10 - Jan 23 by Watford_Ranger |
The Frey situation was/is quite bizarre but I don’t think we can knock re-signing the likes of Field and Smyth much. 27 & 28, both in theory in their prime, neither commanding ridiculous wages you’d hope and both would cost a chunk to replace along with the intangible ‘good blokes to have around’ factor. Smyth of all our wingers is still the one I’d pick except Chair if he counts as a winger which probably says more about the others than him. Still bizarre he’s mainly playing on the left. [Post edited 23 Jan 11:11]
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Yes if we could stop the inverted wingers BS and actually use the width of the pitch, that would be helpful. |  |
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| Sam field on 11:26 - Jan 23 with 307 views | JamesB1979 |
| Sam field on 10:18 - Jan 23 by wombat |
yep money and a possible large payback on wht we paid for him , its not on football ability this season , hes regressed badly from the player who went into the second half of the season last year , negative , poor on the ball.
the clubs playing russian roulette buy cheap sell at the right price or hopefully higher , we struck lucky with kelman have a stella season and got way more money than hes worth. we are now praying that
Kone
Madson
Varanne
Burrrell
do the same or its gonna be a tough few seasons without a few big sells ons, esp when as usual the club still havent got a perm left back in after how many years now ?
everyone was saying what a fantastic job the club is doing buying cheap and hopefully selling big , well id guess its gonna be squeeky bum time for some until it happens if it does. hopefuly it does [Post edited 23 Jan 10:22]
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12th in league and 3 points off playoffs. We’ve got age of squad down significantly. Huge turnaround from last few years. We’ve not been great recently but when we’ve played well, we’ve been good. I was annoyed and depressed when got back from Oxford too but got to look at bigger picture. Not sure why everyone is so negative. | | | |
| Sam field on 11:32 - Jan 23 with 282 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Sam field on 11:15 - Jan 23 by dm97 |
Don’t get me wrong I’m not knocking the re-signing in principle, it’s resigning them and then deciding 6 months later that, because they’re not in the managers plans, we need to get rid. I only included Smyth because he’s the same mould who could be bombed out by the guy who comes after JS.
I just think it’s an example of where the current suits talk a good game but at times don’t execute what they’re telling us. Same with injuries. We get gaslit a lot imo |
Smyth is (as a compliment) a cockroach. Manager comes in, thinks shiny new player will do better, shiny new player is inconsistent/crap/soft and he comes back. He’ll survive most of us and the next five managers. Like Harry Maguire who will be rolled back in by the next five United managers. | | | |
| Sam field on 11:56 - Jan 23 with 230 views | wombat |
| Sam field on 11:26 - Jan 23 by JamesB1979 |
12th in league and 3 points off playoffs. We’ve got age of squad down significantly. Huge turnaround from last few years. We’ve not been great recently but when we’ve played well, we’ve been good. I was annoyed and depressed when got back from Oxford too but got to look at bigger picture. Not sure why everyone is so negative. |
Thing is bar leicester when we was excellent , when have we played well ? away from homes has been awful for months im well aware of the bigger picture and totally behind it but so far the recruiment apart from. bringing younger playrs has been much of the same young injured players instead of older injured players. is that down to just bad luck ? or the medical team not being up to to the job ? )
I see we are bringing in yet another senior physio in the coming weeks) we was sold that the new coach was full of idea sometimes to many yet we rarely change tactics in a game even something as simple as swapping wingers for 15/20 dosnt seem to happen. with the squad even when half fit we should be in the postion or higher than we are in , esp this season when the league is wide open.
not sure what the bank acct is loking like but if the big players sales dont happen soon whats to come in the next few seasons with FFP etc | |
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