| England 21:38 - Oct 6 with 3132 views | digswellhoop |
Harry Kane great player
but how many more micky mouse games do they play now
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| England on 20:18 - Oct 7 with 780 views | derbyhoop |
Given his stats and longevity it's hard to argue that Kane should be considered as the best England striker of all time.
Greaves' record is similar but Greaves barely contributed outside the box. Rooney and, much earlier, Finney don't even come close.
In terms of best England player ever, you cannot ignore Charlton, Moore, Banks and Shilton. They have to be in the mix. |  |
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| England on 10:34 - Oct 8 with 528 views | TheChef |
| England on 20:18 - Oct 7 by derbyhoop |
Given his stats and longevity it's hard to argue that Kane should be considered as the best England striker of all time.
Greaves' record is similar but Greaves barely contributed outside the box. Rooney and, much earlier, Finney don't even come close.
In terms of best England player ever, you cannot ignore Charlton, Moore, Banks and Shilton. They have to be in the mix. |
Shilton should have retired after the 86 World Cup though - but he wouldn't do that by himself and Bobby Robson didn't have the balls to tell him otherwise. |  |
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| England on 10:44 - Oct 8 with 512 views | W7Ranger |
| England on 20:18 - Oct 7 by derbyhoop |
Given his stats and longevity it's hard to argue that Kane should be considered as the best England striker of all time.
Greaves' record is similar but Greaves barely contributed outside the box. Rooney and, much earlier, Finney don't even come close.
In terms of best England player ever, you cannot ignore Charlton, Moore, Banks and Shilton. They have to be in the mix. |
Shilton? Not for me.
But I am of an age where I only ever remember/saw the 80's onwards Shilton. Mainly the 86, 88 and 90's Shilton, who I feel was a the weak link in those tournaments, particularly in 86 and 90. Beaten in the air by a midget, who's arm wasn't even extended to score the Hand of God goal. And in '90 wasn't great v West Germany. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for the deflected goal off of Parker, but he was terrible in the shoot out.
From what I've seen of 70's Shilton, he was a great keeper. But went on 5 years too long for England imo.
Contraversial opinion, but I think Pickford's a better 'keeper - certainly better than the 80's onwards Shilton. |  | | |
| England on 10:48 - Oct 8 with 499 views | TheChef |
| England on 10:44 - Oct 8 by W7Ranger |
Shilton? Not for me.
But I am of an age where I only ever remember/saw the 80's onwards Shilton. Mainly the 86, 88 and 90's Shilton, who I feel was a the weak link in those tournaments, particularly in 86 and 90. Beaten in the air by a midget, who's arm wasn't even extended to score the Hand of God goal. And in '90 wasn't great v West Germany. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for the deflected goal off of Parker, but he was terrible in the shoot out.
From what I've seen of 70's Shilton, he was a great keeper. But went on 5 years too long for England imo.
Contraversial opinion, but I think Pickford's a better 'keeper - certainly better than the 80's onwards Shilton. |
Ah come on be fair - in the West Germany shootout he dived the right way every time!
Just ten seconds too late  | |
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| England on 10:51 - Oct 8 with 482 views | W7Ranger |
| England on 10:48 - Oct 8 by TheChef |
Ah come on be fair - in the West Germany shootout he dived the right way every time!
Just ten seconds too late |
I can do that ffs!!  | | | |
| England on 11:23 - Oct 8 with 437 views | Monkey_Roots |
| England on 20:10 - Oct 7 by digswellhoop |
I ment never had nations leaves with poor teamsin |
I actually much prefer the Nations League to what came before.
With the Nations League you actually play teams that are much better quality compared to the meaningless games against Andorra and San Marino.
Don’t get me wrong, I really hate the international breaks, as I just want my weekends filled with QPR, fantasy football and Super 6 considerations, but this format I think is much much better.
I also think Kane is the best England striker in my lifetime, and probably our best chance of winning something with England. I really hope he gets the Ballon D’or, but he’s English, and therefore likely to get overlooked for Rodri or Yamal, because Spain are the w@nk material for world football. [Post edited 8 Oct 11:25]
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| England on 11:35 - Oct 8 with 389 views | TheChef |
| England on 11:23 - Oct 8 by Monkey_Roots |
I actually much prefer the Nations League to what came before.
With the Nations League you actually play teams that are much better quality compared to the meaningless games against Andorra and San Marino.
Don’t get me wrong, I really hate the international breaks, as I just want my weekends filled with QPR, fantasy football and Super 6 considerations, but this format I think is much much better.
I also think Kane is the best England striker in my lifetime, and probably our best chance of winning something with England. I really hope he gets the Ballon D’or, but he’s English, and therefore likely to get overlooked for Rodri or Yamal, because Spain are the w@nk material for world football. [Post edited 8 Oct 11:25]
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Well they won the World Cup so inevitably it'll be a Spanish winner for the next Ballon d'Or. | |
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| England on 11:47 - Oct 8 with 353 views | francisbowles |
| England on 11:35 - Oct 8 by TheChef |
Well they won the World Cup so inevitably it'll be a Spanish winner for the next Ballon d'Or. |
Hopefully Rodri. Yamal and Messi will split the Latin vote and Harry will triumph. | | | |
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| England on 12:40 - Oct 8 with 301 views | TheChef |
| England on 11:47 - Oct 8 by francisbowles |
Hopefully Rodri. Yamal and Messi will split the Latin vote and Harry will triumph. |
I mean personally I'd give it to the centre back Cubarsi, he was fkin immense and only 19 years old. | |
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| England on 13:03 - Oct 8 with 274 views | Monkey_Roots |
| England on 11:35 - Oct 8 by TheChef |
Well they won the World Cup so inevitably it'll be a Spanish winner for the next Ballon d'Or. |
Portugal never won the World Cup, yet Ronaldo won it loads.
Cubarsi was excellent, but Ballon D’or worthy? | | | |
| England on 15:31 - Oct 8 with 180 views | daveB |
| England on 12:40 - Oct 8 by TheChef |
I mean personally I'd give it to the centre back Cubarsi, he was fkin immense and only 19 years old. |
Olise for me, he is incredible but didn't have a great World Cup so that might cost him.
Would love to see Kane win it |  | | |
| England on 15:39 - Oct 8 with 168 views | Match82 |
Willing to sign up for Harry Kanes stats being inflated by playing more games if you're willing to sign up for "proper players" like Dixie Dean having inflated stats because they played in a system with 5 strikers and only 2 defenders. |  | | |
| England on 16:36 - Oct 8 with 121 views | W4Hoop |
| England on 20:10 - Oct 7 by digswellhoop |
I ment never had nations leaves with poor teamsin |
Well that clears it up... |  | | |
| England on 17:26 - Oct 8 with 79 views | Paddyhoops |
Rooney scored lots but was basically a flat track bully .
Kane is an outstanding striker and does it at the top level time and time again.
If anything, he’s a better all round player than he was 5 years ago .
England are lucky to have him . | | | |
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