| Reality check required 15:25 - Apr 24 with 1966 views | welwynranger |
Manure management players and fans bemoaning the demise of the club because they have lost a few games recently.
This is a multi million club with a world wide franchise, a new expensive manager on the way, who will no doubt want to bring in world class players on massive wages.
Less than 10 miles down the road is Oldham, who have just become the first team that played in the premiership to be relegated to the national league.
Some of their players could not have a team to go to , they could lose their homes, their marriages will be under pressure. That's the real face of football.
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| Reality check required on 16:28 - Apr 24 with 1838 views | Toast_R |
All seems rather trivial when compared to clubs further down the ladder but the Manchester United show is brilliant. Knew they might struggle a bit when Fergie retired but this is far better than I could have imagined. They've basically just thrown money at it and had their pants pulled down by agents and players. The manager is clearly not the problem but they're going through them all anyway. |  | | |
| Reality check required on 17:14 - Apr 24 with 1748 views | PinnerPaul |
Talking of reality checks - how many more managers do we think Watford's owners will hire - 17 in 10 years - with Roy surely not coming back for more - before they realise that it isn't working! | | | |
| Reality check required on 09:50 - Apr 25 with 1494 views | terryb |
I'm not disagreeing with the sentimnents of Welwyn's post, but I have no time for the "Premier League" reference to Oldham.
Yes, they will be the first side to have played in The Premier & The National League, but Luton have played far more seasons in the top tier than Oldham have. The last of those being close to when football was re-invented!
I would also query why players would have no clubs to join. If they are good enough, offers will be received. The biggest problem for Oldham will be that they will be one of the poorest (financially at least) in the NL. Nearly all of the clubs are full time & pay higher wages than a lot of EFL Division 2 clubs. | | | |
| Reality check required on 10:08 - Apr 25 with 1453 views | DannytheR |
| Reality check required on 17:14 - Apr 24 by PinnerPaul |
Talking of reality checks - how many more managers do we think Watford's owners will hire - 17 in 10 years - with Roy surely not coming back for more - before they realise that it isn't working! |
They've spent 6 of the last 7 seasons in the Premiership, including the highest finish in their history, made the cup final three years ago and were promoted at the first time of asking in their one season in the Championship. Given the size of the club, it seems to be working pretty well. |  | | |
| Reality check required on 10:15 - Apr 25 with 1429 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
I was just looking at the list of inaugural teams in the Premier League - we had the third lowest capacity behind Oldham and Southampton (the Dell only had a capacity of 15,200 at the time!) Obviously Wimbledon were playing at Selhurst Park at the time even if they had the worst crowds. It's bad what has happened at Oldham but the good thing about the pyramid is that you can bounce back, as Luton have done. Back in the old re-election days that would be it. | | | |
| Reality check required on 15:00 - Apr 25 with 1278 views | PinnerPaul |
| Reality check required on 10:08 - Apr 25 by DannytheR |
They've spent 6 of the last 7 seasons in the Premiership, including the highest finish in their history, made the cup final three years ago and were promoted at the first time of asking in their one season in the Championship. Given the size of the club, it seems to be working pretty well. |
So if its working that well, why change the manager so often? | | | |
| Reality check required on 15:36 - Apr 25 with 1199 views | DannytheR |
| Reality check required on 15:00 - Apr 25 by PinnerPaul |
So if its working that well, why change the manager so often? |
Presumably the owners think that's exactly how you keep it working. Defies conventional wisdom and seems chaotic to us, but they've had more success doing it than we've had in almost 30 years. | | | |
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| Reality check required on 15:52 - Apr 25 with 1147 views | TacticalR |
| Reality check required on 16:28 - Apr 24 by Toast_R |
All seems rather trivial when compared to clubs further down the ladder but the Manchester United show is brilliant. Knew they might struggle a bit when Fergie retired but this is far better than I could have imagined. They've basically just thrown money at it and had their pants pulled down by agents and players. The manager is clearly not the problem but they're going through them all anyway. |
Man Utd fans used to be very smug about their success being due to not changing the manager, but now, since Man Utd change their manager as often as everybody else, this raises the question of whether managerial stability is a reflection of success rather than its cause. [Post edited 25 Apr 2022 16:06]
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