| Ollie post match 21:33 - Jul 29 with 6942 views | davman |
Caulker is one to two weeks away. WOW. Really???? Thought he was gone.
The additions likely to be loans.
He only wants to play one formation! How many did he play today?
It looked like we had Perch, Lynch, Furlong, Onouha and most bizarrely Goss playing Centre back today at some point.
I can see that team taking a few stuffings and winning the odd game 1-0. Still not confident... |  |
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| Ollie post match on 21:49 - Jul 29 with 4628 views | Northolt_Rs |
Who is going to take Caulker? He hasn't played a game for us for months and has well documented mental health and addiction issues. The only club that would buy that is....QPR. [Post edited 29 Jul 2017 21:50]
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| Ollie post match on 22:01 - Jul 29 with 4567 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Ollie post match on 21:49 - Jul 29 by Northolt_Rs |
Who is going to take Caulker? He hasn't played a game for us for months and has well documented mental health and addiction issues. The only club that would buy that is....QPR. [Post edited 29 Jul 2017 21:50]
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Let's hope he's fit. His problems start when he can't play as Ollie said. I can relate to that. I don't think i'd cope very well as a professional footballer. |  |
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| Ollie post match on 22:12 - Jul 29 with 4523 views | TheJudge |
Caulker one or two weeks away from being sober?! |  | | |
| Ollie post match on 22:48 - Jul 29 with 4392 views | daveB |
started game 3-5-2 and switched to 4-2-3-1 when Lynch went off. I think we'll be starting the season with 3-5-2 judging by what he said today |  | | |
| Ollie post match on 23:13 - Jul 29 with 4324 views | smegma |
| Ollie post match on 22:48 - Jul 29 by daveB |
started game 3-5-2 and switched to 4-2-3-1 when Lynch went off. I think we'll be starting the season with 3-5-2 judging by what he said today |
We finished the game with 7 midfielders on the pitch playing here, there and everywhere. |  | | |
| Ollie post match on 02:49 - Jul 30 with 4058 views | Brightonhoop |
| Ollie post match on 22:12 - Jul 29 by TheJudge |
Caulker one or two weeks away from being sober?! |
And if the drunk scratched us over the line your verdict would be what? knut. |  | | |
| Ollie post match on 08:34 - Jul 30 with 3801 views | daveB |
| Ollie post match on 23:13 - Jul 29 by smegma |
We finished the game with 7 midfielders on the pitch playing here, there and everywhere. |
yeah but shape was still the same and mainly due to Lynch and Bidwell being Ill and Hall injured so we had very little to choose from in defence | | | |
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| Ollie post match on 11:35 - Jul 30 with 3532 views | oddball |
| Ollie post match on 22:12 - Jul 29 by TheJudge |
Caulker one or two weeks away from being sober?! |
like it centurian made me laaaarf.im only one week from being sober. | | | |
| Ollie post match on 11:41 - Jul 30 with 3509 views | Hooparoo |
Seems increasingly obvious to me that Ollie has no fcking idea what he's doing.
Another car crash of a season coming up I fear. Hope I'm wrong. |  |
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| Ollie post match on 12:19 - Jul 30 with 3410 views | Gloucs_R |
Who are the wing back in a 352? |  |
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| Ollie post match on 12:44 - Jul 30 with 3341 views | francisbowles |
| Ollie post match on 12:19 - Jul 30 by Gloucs_R |
Who are the wing back in a 352? |
It was Robinson and Pavel today.
Pavel was forced very deep by the oppo and his inexperience in the position told.
If we are going to play 352 then better to play Furlong as rwb. He may learn a lot and not be too exposed. Save Pavel for coming on against tired defences especially away from home. We struggle to find three centre backs at the moment!
Personally, I would prefer 4231 or 4141. The latter probably suits a winger better and Manning could play on the left. Ariel, Scowen, Goss, Perch all suitable for the holding role. [Post edited 30 Jul 2017 12:49]
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| Ollie post match on 15:05 - Jul 30 with 3140 views | Gloucs_R |
| Ollie post match on 12:44 - Jul 30 by francisbowles |
It was Robinson and Pavel today.
Pavel was forced very deep by the oppo and his inexperience in the position told.
If we are going to play 352 then better to play Furlong as rwb. He may learn a lot and not be too exposed. Save Pavel for coming on against tired defences especially away from home. We struggle to find three centre backs at the moment!
Personally, I would prefer 4231 or 4141. The latter probably suits a winger better and Manning could play on the left. Ariel, Scowen, Goss, Perch all suitable for the holding role. [Post edited 30 Jul 2017 12:49]
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Our problem is, 1 up front means booting it forward. | |
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| Ollie post match on 15:44 - Jul 30 with 3037 views | smegma |
| Ollie post match on 15:05 - Jul 30 by Gloucs_R |
Our problem is, 1 up front means booting it forward. |
We played two up front as in most pre season games. | | | |
| Ollie post match on 16:17 - Jul 30 with 2963 views | rsonist |
We pulled a real number on Pav getting him to sign permanently when he did. Can only imagine he's kicking himself (or his agent more likely). |  | | |
| Ollie post match on 16:25 - Jul 30 with 2943 views | Watford_Ranger |
Don't mind the 5-3-2 at all but it hugely relies on Robinson staying fit.
What's happened to the Finnish kid? Is he finished?
Has anyone seen Shodipo? There's not really a role for him in such a system unless we're a goal down and throwing the kitchen sink which is a shame as he can cross a football. | | | |
| Ollie post match on 16:36 - Jul 30 with 2917 views | DesertBoot |
If we start with Pawel as a wingback and start with Smith up front, we are effectively starting with nine men - neither are up to the task.
Pawel is a proper winger who can score goals, Smith is slow and not good enough. [Post edited 30 Jul 2017 16:57]
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| Ollie post match on 16:42 - Jul 30 with 2892 views | rsonist |
| Ollie post match on 16:36 - Jul 30 by DesertBoot |
If we start with Pawel as a wingback and start with Smith up front, we are effectively starting with nine men - neither are up to the task.
Pawel is a proper winger who can score goals, Smith is slow and not good enough. [Post edited 30 Jul 2017 16:57]
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It wouldn't be so maddening if we hadn't already sorted it out (or happened across it by accident, it seems increasingly fairer to say) during last season. There was material evidence over a run of games that Pav and Furlong were a handy right side combination and since then Tinkerman's been mugging them and us off for literally no reason. Can they not review the tapes or something?
I'm not trying to be hyperbolic here but it is absolutely paramount to the club's future that Ollie fulfils his remit in maximising value from undoubted assets like Pav (and then rinse and repeat and keep building). Wigan sold Yanic Wildschut to Norwich for £7m last season and he's a shadow of the player Pav can be if managed correctly. [Post edited 30 Jul 2017 16:46]
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| Ollie post match on 16:46 - Jul 30 with 2880 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Ollie post match on 16:36 - Jul 30 by DesertBoot |
If we start with Pawel as a wingback and start with Smith up front, we are effectively starting with nine men - neither are up to the task.
Pawel is a proper winger who can score goals, Smith is slow and not good enough. [Post edited 30 Jul 2017 16:57]
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I've heard he does a beautiful rendition of "My Way" after a few pints of Tyskie. | | | |
| Ollie post match on 23:29 - Jul 30 with 2555 views | switchingcode |
Said that we done Brentford a favour as they are closer to Grenfell tower. | | | |
| Ollie post match on 09:37 - Jul 31 with 2264 views | simmo |
| Ollie post match on 16:25 - Jul 30 by Watford_Ranger |
Don't mind the 5-3-2 at all but it hugely relies on Robinson staying fit.
What's happened to the Finnish kid? Is he finished?
Has anyone seen Shodipo? There's not really a role for him in such a system unless we're a goal down and throwing the kitchen sink which is a shame as he can cross a football. |
We can play Bidwell and Manning there, so not a problem. Haimailen still around, played pre-season.
Shodipo slowly but surely coming back from injury, but doesn't look like Olly is playing advanced wingers so not sure there's much hope for him, especially as he's behind the likes of Mackie, Ngbokoto, Wzolek and (bizzarely) maybe even Petrasso.
I don't mind 3-5-2 as it makes the most of the fact we are strongest in CM and also means we don't play full backs where we're not overly blessed. I think with Hall in the middle of the back 3 it works well, he can step forwards on occasion and Chief and Lynch have expereince at RB/LB respectively, which is what you need from those playing that position in a 3. Also means 2 up front, which again is needed for our current strikers.
The problem is that it means we lack width, especially when we're playing a team that will have our wing backs pinned back. It doesn't play to the strengths of Wzsolek who is most prominent attacking threat and limits proper service to the forwards. Overall though I think it's the best solution given the current personnel we have and can be changed to 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 with just 1 substitution. |  |
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| Ollie post match on 10:25 - Jul 31 with 2194 views | JamieNaz |
Pawel was wing back on the right, for majority of the game. Spent most of the first half tracking back to defend against Max Gradel.
Petrasso went to right wing back when Pawel went off. Looked very rusty
Robinson was left wing back in the first half, then Manning in the second.
Robinson had the frustrating habit of driving crosses in on the deck when Smith was at the far post. When the striker has a head like a foot float it in, pal.
Second half our centre backs were: Furlong right sided, Onuoha centre, Perch left sided, then Goss was a straight swap for Perch.
Think the formation is promising to be honest. Scowen looked good as the anchor man, and Ariel did as well. It freed up Luongo to get forward more, and he was everywhere. Freeman also could do well in that role.
Wasn't really impressed at all with Smith, or Sylla. Smith hilariously tried to run with the ball at one point then banjoed a shot way wide of the goal.
Think I'd prefer we just played Washington and Yeni up front and stopped smashing it long.
Anyway, all these conclusions are bollocks because pre-season is pre-season. | | | |
| Ollie post match on 10:37 - Jul 31 with 2160 views | francisbowles |
| Ollie post match on 10:25 - Jul 31 by JamieNaz |
Pawel was wing back on the right, for majority of the game. Spent most of the first half tracking back to defend against Max Gradel.
Petrasso went to right wing back when Pawel went off. Looked very rusty
Robinson was left wing back in the first half, then Manning in the second.
Robinson had the frustrating habit of driving crosses in on the deck when Smith was at the far post. When the striker has a head like a foot float it in, pal.
Second half our centre backs were: Furlong right sided, Onuoha centre, Perch left sided, then Goss was a straight swap for Perch.
Think the formation is promising to be honest. Scowen looked good as the anchor man, and Ariel did as well. It freed up Luongo to get forward more, and he was everywhere. Freeman also could do well in that role.
Wasn't really impressed at all with Smith, or Sylla. Smith hilariously tried to run with the ball at one point then banjoed a shot way wide of the goal.
Think I'd prefer we just played Washington and Yeni up front and stopped smashing it long.
Anyway, all these conclusions are bollocks because pre-season is pre-season. |
I think we went to a back four when Goss came on. We had the full backs, Furlong and Manning 'pushed on' and Borysiuk sitting in front of the back four. It looked far more effective but the game was changing as fatigue set in, we were chasing it and Bournemouth practising seeing a game out. | | | |
| Ollie post match on 10:53 - Jul 31 with 2111 views | bob566 |
what the f*** is with all the injuries. We've had our summer break and the squads crocked already.
No expert on these things but;
a) is it because of crap training facilities
b) just unlucky
c) crap medical team
d) something else? | | | |
| Ollie post match on 11:00 - Jul 31 with 2106 views | kensalriser |
| Ollie post match on 23:29 - Jul 30 by switchingcode |
Said that we done Brentford a favour as they are closer to Grenfell tower. |
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