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Didn’t Glen Matlock say he and Mick Jones would talk about football and Mr Lydon used to sneer and showed little interest until football got cool. Thinks being working class means also voting for Trump. As if they care Johnny, as if they care.
I went to an Arsenal v Fulham game a while back and thought it was a decent stadium. Full of tourists and entitled Arsenal fans. Told the bloke next to me I was Rangers fan and said then he had something to moan about. Designed so everyone can get served at halftime with the longest queue being for the atm machine.
Didn’t Glen Matlock say he and Mick Jones would talk about football and Mr Lydon used to sneer and showed little interest until football got cool. Thinks being working class means also voting for Trump. As if they care Johnny, as if they care.
I went to an Arsenal v Fulham game a while back and thought it was a decent stadium. Full of tourists and entitled Arsenal fans. Told the bloke next to me I was Rangers fan and said then he had something to moan about. Designed so everyone can get served at halftime with the longest queue being for the atm machine.
Agree 100% Lydon's take on Donald Drumpf, was just wrong. I see where it was coming from - supporting the maverick - the anti-Clinton thing, but like all the other malcontent intellectuals who should've known better, no, no, and thrice no.
But his take on the Emirates chimes with me. I've only been there once. Maybe twice so memorable was the experience. Both R's games. Having gone to school in North London, having loads of gooner mates, and going to Highbury a lot as a kid, I was especially interested in what the Emirates experience was going to be like.
The first visit made me feel sad. One of our crowd, an old boy, wasn't initially let in because of some online ticketing barcode-scanning misdemeanour. He spent the first half in an Emirates Admin Custom Hall being told the computer says no - but was eventually let in. Then the stewards were getting all arsey about something or the other, maybe someone having the temerity to stand-up. I cant remember. Anyway these day-glo lemon-jacketed hi-viz jumped-up w*nkers kept to-ing and fro-ing in front of me so many times - obscuring my view of the inevitable 1-0 defeat - eventually I sort of leaned forward in my seat making myself big (that sounds wrong) blocking the way so the steward is saying something to me like "you're obstructing me blah blah" I ignored him - fortunately he fcuked off.
The saddest thing was a bunch of Arsenal near the away end giving it all gestures and who-are-ya's in time honoured fashion to us the away supporters and I looked at them, and looked at the rest of the stadium, and thought they don't want you here. You're telling us to fcuk off but look around you - you've been Nick Hornby-ed and Piers Morgan-ed - you're quaint - you're obsolete - you're dinosaurs - they want you to fcuk off. Apart from all that it was a lovely day out.
Agree 100% Lydon's take on Donald Drumpf, was just wrong. I see where it was coming from - supporting the maverick - the anti-Clinton thing, but like all the other malcontent intellectuals who should've known better, no, no, and thrice no.
But his take on the Emirates chimes with me. I've only been there once. Maybe twice so memorable was the experience. Both R's games. Having gone to school in North London, having loads of gooner mates, and going to Highbury a lot as a kid, I was especially interested in what the Emirates experience was going to be like.
The first visit made me feel sad. One of our crowd, an old boy, wasn't initially let in because of some online ticketing barcode-scanning misdemeanour. He spent the first half in an Emirates Admin Custom Hall being told the computer says no - but was eventually let in. Then the stewards were getting all arsey about something or the other, maybe someone having the temerity to stand-up. I cant remember. Anyway these day-glo lemon-jacketed hi-viz jumped-up w*nkers kept to-ing and fro-ing in front of me so many times - obscuring my view of the inevitable 1-0 defeat - eventually I sort of leaned forward in my seat making myself big (that sounds wrong) blocking the way so the steward is saying something to me like "you're obstructing me blah blah" I ignored him - fortunately he fcuked off.
The saddest thing was a bunch of Arsenal near the away end giving it all gestures and who-are-ya's in time honoured fashion to us the away supporters and I looked at them, and looked at the rest of the stadium, and thought they don't want you here. You're telling us to fcuk off but look around you - you've been Nick Hornby-ed and Piers Morgan-ed - you're quaint - you're obsolete - you're dinosaurs - they want you to fcuk off. Apart from all that it was a lovely day out.
I went to one of our games at the Emirates, was sat right next to the home supporters, the so called bantz between us and them was truly embarrassing.
I went to one of our games at the Emirates, was sat right next to the home supporters, the so called bantz between us and them was truly embarrassing.
Went there twice, once to see them play Bayern and once to see them play us (the 1-0 defeat). We walked out of both. It was one huge corporate box and I hated it.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
First half 1 - 0 up and got booed off, i assume because the Mackens were still in the game? Ended up winning 3 - 0 yet still the place was the most unatmospheric (i know that's not a word!) grounds i've ever been to and is pretty much the same every week according to the gooner i asked.
Used to love going to Highbury, mostly because you didn't get thrown out for swearing but it was full of proper fans , not corporates and tourists
Agree 100% Lydon's take on Donald Drumpf, was just wrong. I see where it was coming from - supporting the maverick - the anti-Clinton thing, but like all the other malcontent intellectuals who should've known better, no, no, and thrice no.
But his take on the Emirates chimes with me. I've only been there once. Maybe twice so memorable was the experience. Both R's games. Having gone to school in North London, having loads of gooner mates, and going to Highbury a lot as a kid, I was especially interested in what the Emirates experience was going to be like.
The first visit made me feel sad. One of our crowd, an old boy, wasn't initially let in because of some online ticketing barcode-scanning misdemeanour. He spent the first half in an Emirates Admin Custom Hall being told the computer says no - but was eventually let in. Then the stewards were getting all arsey about something or the other, maybe someone having the temerity to stand-up. I cant remember. Anyway these day-glo lemon-jacketed hi-viz jumped-up w*nkers kept to-ing and fro-ing in front of me so many times - obscuring my view of the inevitable 1-0 defeat - eventually I sort of leaned forward in my seat making myself big (that sounds wrong) blocking the way so the steward is saying something to me like "you're obstructing me blah blah" I ignored him - fortunately he fcuked off.
The saddest thing was a bunch of Arsenal near the away end giving it all gestures and who-are-ya's in time honoured fashion to us the away supporters and I looked at them, and looked at the rest of the stadium, and thought they don't want you here. You're telling us to fcuk off but look around you - you've been Nick Hornby-ed and Piers Morgan-ed - you're quaint - you're obsolete - you're dinosaurs - they want you to fcuk off. Apart from all that it was a lovely day out.
Sorry, Danny, but I think John Lydon is a bit of a silly-Billy.
I can't stand the Emirates - feels more like an American sporting venue than a football ground, and that middle ring of corporate seats that sits empty from 30-60 minutes, and kills the chances of any atmosphere developing between the top and bottom tiers is modern football in a nutshell. The best thing about the Emirates is the toilet blocks outside the stadium - saved me pis sing myself a couple of times.
When the Emirates opened, I was living a ten minute walk away, so I went with a few Gooner mates to one of the games they put on to get their safety certificate. It was a midweek, youth game v Cardiff that was advertised late on, and 11,000(?) turned-up. I think it was something like £2-3 to get in. About 80-90% of the crowd was kids 12-18, no adults with them, kids from all backgrounds, just having an amazing time. From the way they were talking, and looking around, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them had never been in a football ground before. They looked like me when I walked up the stairs and got the first glimpse of the Azteca/Bernabeu or somewhere. Genuine awe and giddy excitement (I'm Fulham - I'm allowed to say, "giddy excitement").
Most of those kids spent the whole game really getting behind Arsenal, making a lot of noise and that, but not many knew any Arsenal songs. It made me feel incredibly sad, because when I was a kid, any fuc ker with (literally) £3-4 in their pocket could get into Arsenal. All these kids from Islington, Camden, Hackney and Haringey, and I doubt many of them have been able to go back since, because they haven't got £30-50 to shell-out every year for a membership that might enable them to then spend £50 on a ticket to watch Arsenal v Burnley or Rotherham in the League cup. How sh it is that.
You can't move for far-flung day-trippers round there on matchdays, and whilst they're all very welcome (I suppose!), there's something tragic about those people being able to watch Arsenal, whilst a lot of football-obsessed locals will never get to do that on any sort of regular basis. It's amazing now, the amount of kids you see around North London in Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool and Man City shirts. That was never the case when I was young, but I suppose if you're never going to actually get to watch your local team in the flesh, then you may as well support someone like Chelsea. Proper sad.
Anyhow, yeah, the Emirates is sh it. Highbury wasn't usually the loudest ground, but it had soul. My Tottenham family and friends all assure me that ticket-prices aside, the new WHL is miles better and feels like a proper football ground.
Something that still makes me chuckle, was being in the Newcastle section* on the Clock End before the redevelopment of Highbury, with some copper stood in the neighbouring pen holding the gate between the two pens open, whilst chatting to another couple of coppers. This big Geordie bloke shouts across from where we were standing, "Oi, Pet, shut the fu cking door, would you, it's fu cking freezing in here, man!", and the copper, looking very apologetic, very gently pulled the gate to, and mouthed the word, "Sorry", before continuing her conversation through the now closed gate. Good times!
* A few of us non-Gooners wanted to see the young Paul Gascoigne, and if we went to a game as neutrals, we'd usually go in the away end for a better atmosphere/because we hated the home team..
The company I worked for at the time got tickets a few years ago for a Champions League game (that’s how long ago it was) against Olympiacos. They asked me if I wanted to go because they knew I was the most into footy in our department. Went with a Gooner fan who spent a very long time moaning about how poor Loftus Road was in comparison. (The 2 grounds are really not comparable). Yep it was like watching it all on a big screen with the volume turned down. I felt really distant and detached from the action. The only noise was coming from the Olympiacos fans in the opposite corner who were letting off flares and singing a lot. Andrey Arshavin ran the show and the Arse won easily but the atmosphere was rubbish. My favourite bit was when Wenger made a substitution in the second half. There was much moaning and groaning and a bloke behind me with a really, really posh accent (imagine Leslie Phillips), stood up and started giving Arsene an earful.... hilarious :)
Sorry, Danny, but I think John Lydon is a bit of a silly-Billy.
I can't stand the Emirates - feels more like an American sporting venue than a football ground, and that middle ring of corporate seats that sits empty from 30-60 minutes, and kills the chances of any atmosphere developing between the top and bottom tiers is modern football in a nutshell. The best thing about the Emirates is the toilet blocks outside the stadium - saved me pis sing myself a couple of times.
When the Emirates opened, I was living a ten minute walk away, so I went with a few Gooner mates to one of the games they put on to get their safety certificate. It was a midweek, youth game v Cardiff that was advertised late on, and 11,000(?) turned-up. I think it was something like £2-3 to get in. About 80-90% of the crowd was kids 12-18, no adults with them, kids from all backgrounds, just having an amazing time. From the way they were talking, and looking around, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them had never been in a football ground before. They looked like me when I walked up the stairs and got the first glimpse of the Azteca/Bernabeu or somewhere. Genuine awe and giddy excitement (I'm Fulham - I'm allowed to say, "giddy excitement").
Most of those kids spent the whole game really getting behind Arsenal, making a lot of noise and that, but not many knew any Arsenal songs. It made me feel incredibly sad, because when I was a kid, any fuc ker with (literally) £3-4 in their pocket could get into Arsenal. All these kids from Islington, Camden, Hackney and Haringey, and I doubt many of them have been able to go back since, because they haven't got £30-50 to shell-out every year for a membership that might enable them to then spend £50 on a ticket to watch Arsenal v Burnley or Rotherham in the League cup. How sh it is that.
You can't move for far-flung day-trippers round there on matchdays, and whilst they're all very welcome (I suppose!), there's something tragic about those people being able to watch Arsenal, whilst a lot of football-obsessed locals will never get to do that on any sort of regular basis. It's amazing now, the amount of kids you see around North London in Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool and Man City shirts. That was never the case when I was young, but I suppose if you're never going to actually get to watch your local team in the flesh, then you may as well support someone like Chelsea. Proper sad.
Anyhow, yeah, the Emirates is sh it. Highbury wasn't usually the loudest ground, but it had soul. My Tottenham family and friends all assure me that ticket-prices aside, the new WHL is miles better and feels like a proper football ground.
As I said Lydon’s call on Trump was way off the mark but it looks like everyone in the thread, including yourself Konk, is agreeing with his sentiments on the new Arsenal stadium.
As I said Lydon’s call on Trump was way off the mark but it looks like everyone in the thread, including yourself Konk, is agreeing with his sentiments on the new Arsenal stadium.
It's certainly not somewhere I'd choose to watch football on a regular basis. On the plus side, it's amazing that they managed to build it so close to Highbury, there are loads of good pubs nearby, and of course, the bogs outside the stadium are one of the great innovations of the 21st century. But it's not a football ground. If you're the sort of fan who rates a stadium on facilities/padded seats/corporate suites, and all that shi t, then it's probably great, otherwise it's a sterile, bland, instantly forgettable experience.
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