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Mr Day and his borrowing 15:23 - Nov 12 with 48115 views

welshdale

Interesting (mind the pun) read

http://www.theguardian.com/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2014/nov/12/bur

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:16 - Nov 14 with 5102 views

nordenblue

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:08 - Nov 14 by Pale_Dale
Why ask me to speculate when I am telling you it is pointless doing so?

You dont need to speculate just answer the question, billy bullshit has told you as fans all this tripe,do any of you bother questioning why not of it ever actually happens?

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:17 - Nov 14 with 5098 views

ColDale

One day, we will look upon Bury as being the victims in this, and rightly so.

The general consensus will be that there was little that Bury fans could do to prevent their club being used like this. The truth will be that some Bury fans have been fully complicit in this. It will be as much down to them should the worst befall their club.

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:18 - Nov 14 with 5087 views

Pale_Dale

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:16 - Nov 14 by nordenblue
You dont need to speculate just answer the question, billy bullshit has told you as fans all this tripe,do any of you bother questioning why not of it ever actually happens?

Plenty has been done which the board promised. As for querying them, consider visiting our message board.

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Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:27 - Nov 14 with 5059 views

nordenblue

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:18 - Nov 14 by Pale_Dale
Plenty has been done which the board promised. As for querying them, consider visiting our message board. [Post edited 14 Nov 2014 21:20]

Im not sad enough to bother registering on another teams message board tbf.
Would you not question why your chairman has taken a massive loan out with extortionate interest rates against the club, if hes as wealthy as he cracks on why the need for a loan?

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:33 - Nov 14 with 5035 views

TVOS1907

Mr Day and his borrowing on 14:01 - Nov 14 by PDIDDY
Who are dale playing tomorrow?

You're on the Rochdale forum; it shouldn't be too difficult to find out.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

Mr Day and his borrowing on 22:20 - Nov 14 with 4955 views

dingdangblue

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:27 - Nov 14 by nordenblue
Im not sad enough to bother registering on another teams message board tbf. Would you not question why your chairman has taken a massive loan out with extortionate interest rates against the club, if hes as wealthy as he cracks on why the need for a loan?

Normally people who take out such loans are very desperate people with no where else to turn.

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Mr Day and his borrowing on 22:29 - Nov 14 with 4909 views

PDIDDY

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:27 - Nov 14 by nordenblue
Im not sad enough to bother registering on another teams message board tbf. Would you not question why your chairman has taken a massive loan out with extortionate interest rates against the club, if hes as wealthy as he cracks on why the need for a loan?

But sad enough to involve yourself in YET. another thread on Bury fc, #obsessed

Gissa job

Mr Day and his borrowing on 22:31 - Nov 14 with 4914 views

R17ALE

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:33 - Nov 14 by TVOS1907
You're on the Rochdale forum; it shouldn't be too difficult to find out.

I'd liken this mb to Bletchley Park - home of the WW2 German code breakers. It was said, circa 1943, that if German commanders wanted to find out their orders, it would be quicker going to Bletchley than to Berlin!

Likewise, if you want to find out what the buckets hierarchy are up to, it's quicker to come on here!

Poll:

Who do you think bury should appoint as their next manager?

Mr Day and his borrowing on 22:46 - Nov 14 with 4883 views

TVOS1907

Mr Day and his borrowing on 22:31 - Nov 14 by R17ALE
I'd liken this mb to Bletchley Park - home of the WW2 German code breakers. It was said, circa 1943, that if German commanders wanted to find out their orders, it would be quicker going to Bletchley than to Berlin! Likewise, if you want to find out what the buckets hierarchy are up to, it's quicker to come on here!

Aye - and Bletchley was kept running by a load of old women!

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

Mr Day and his borrowing on 23:27 - Nov 14 with 4815 views

ArthurDaley

Mr Day and his borrowing on 22:46 - Nov 14 by TVOS1907
Aye - and Bletchley was kept running by a load of old women!

A bit harsh TVOS, All though Alan Turing was a bit effeminate I wouldn't have called him an old women.

A large VAT Dave

Mr Day and his borrowing on 23:49 - Nov 14 with 4787 views

downunder

Mr Day and his borrowing on 20:53 - Nov 14 by Pale_Dale
Here you go son. [Post edited 14 Nov 2014 20:54]

Fancies himself as a bit of a comedian, doesn't he.
Here is a joke.
How many bURY staff does it take to unscrew a light bulb?

[Post edited 15 Nov 2014 0:28]

Mr Day and his borrowing on 23:52 - Nov 14 with 4770 views

TVOS1907

Mr Day and his borrowing on 20:53 - Nov 14 by Pale_Dale
Here you go son. [Post edited 14 Nov 2014 20:54]

It's like North Korean television.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

Mr Day and his borrowing on 00:07 - Nov 15 with 4744 views

downunder

Mr Day and his borrowing on 20:44 - Nov 14 by Pale_Dale
Well it seems you have failed to go to Specsavers as you appear to have missed the hundreds of posts over the past months where quite a few of the special ones on here interpret their views as fact. Are you too scared to pick them up on it? [Post edited 14 Nov 2014 20:47]

I went years ago. I need glasses to read small print. Rochdale fans on a Rochdale board will interpret in many ways. Many have commented, but most are just comments and opinions. Very few, if any, have quoted this Guardian piece with "This is a fact" included.
This thread is about the that article. It came out on the 12th November, not months ago.
Hundreds of posts? There you go with your counting fetish again.

Mr Day and his borrowing on 00:23 - Nov 15 with 4715 views

DomDale

Mr Day and his borrowing on 20:25 - Nov 14 by downunder

Wrongdoing? Depends on how you interpret that word. Maybe everything is legal, and that is the point you are trying to make.

What most on here, including a few bury fans, are trying to point out to you, is that this way of doing business is very likely doomed to failure. Remember the HBOS being warned that they were taking to many risks, by one of their directors? He was sacked, a few years later, they were "shaking buckets" at the government, for help.

Here, again, is undeniable evidence of risk taking, and a of a group of people with their heads in the sand, believing it will all work out OK.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2014/nov/12/bur
http://www.buryfc.co.uk/news/article
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014

They have been posted already. Did you not read them?
Should have gone to Specsavers.
Or have you already been, and all you got were Rose tinted?

Paul Moore, HBOS whistleblower. I've met him several times, very astute man.

My line of work is financial services. A lot of what my workplace does involves financing property transactions such as what Day is presumably using the £1m for.
I cannot fathom why he his having to pay 138%pa (cumulative). The market rate for a bridging facility of that ticket size is way,way lower even factoring in patchy credit history and upper end LTV. All very odd.

I've seen some laughable comments from Bury fans about Day's investments being "guaranteed". The thing is, nothing is guaranteed, aside from the fact that if the loan repayments cease the creditor will eventually take charge of the asset they hold as security. It may work out for Day. But at such a high level of gearing you've got to ask - what if it doesn't? He's risking a very real thing. A proper football club with history. Why are the bury fans not more worried about this? That brings me back to my point a few days ago. In a way, I hope this does go tits up. The FA and FL might wake up and employ some serious Fit & Proper tests and our chums down the A58 might be less likely to fall for bollox for the 4th time.

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Mr Day and his borrowing on 00:33 - Nov 15 with 4706 views

judd

Mr Day and his borrowing on 00:23 - Nov 15 by DomDale

[Post edited 15 Nov 2014 0:24]

Have you seen his directorships?

Have you seen that SG Sports Management have a charge against them already by Datum Finance Ltd?

Has the Goldman mortgage & charge been paid off by this latest loan?

MR STEWART PAUL DAY
MEDERCO LIMITED BB12 6EG 1 Jan 2013 â†’ Present day
BURY FOOTBALL CLUB COMPANY LIMITED(THE) BB12 6EG 28 May 2013 â†’ Present day
MEDERCO (HUDDERSFIELD) LTD BB12 6EG 29 Apr 2014 â†’ Present day
MILVERSTONE LTD BB12 6EG 20 Sep 2013 â†’ Present day
PICTURE HOMES (BALBY) LIMITED BB12 6EG 27 Aug 2010 â†’ Present day
STONEGATE MEWS COURT MANAGEMENT COMPANY LIMITED BB12 6EG 3 Jun 2013 â†’ Present day
THE PFS GROUP GLOBAL LIMITED BB12 6EG 16 Dec 2012 â†’ Present day
SG SPORTS MANAGEMENT LIMITED BB12 6EG 23 May 2013 â†’ Present day
PICTURE HOMES (LT) LTD BB12 6EG 19 Apr 2013 â†’ Present day
RAINBOW HOMES (LITTLE TOMS) LTD BB1 2EG 29 Jan 2013 â†’ Present day
RAINBOW HOMES (WILLIAMS WHARF) LTD BB12 6EG 22 Jul 2013 â†’ Present day
PICTURE HOMES (STATION COURT) LIMITED BB12 6EG 8 Nov 2010 â†’ Present day
RAINBOW HOMES (ESTATES) LTD BB12 6EG 11 Mar 2013 â†’ Present day
RAINBOW HOMES LTD BB12 6EG 7 Sep 2013 â†’ Present day
PFS TRAWDEN LIMITED BB12 6EG 27 Apr 2013 â†’ Present day

Poll:

What is it to be then?

Mr Day and his borrowing on 04:11 - Nov 15 with 4640 views

downunder

Mr Day and his borrowing on 00:33 - Nov 15 by judd

I should question whether that is fact, or speculation, but apparently I am scared to do that.

Mr Day and his borrowing on 08:07 - Nov 15 with 4576 views

PDIDDY

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:33 - Nov 14 by TVOS1907
You're on the Rochdale forum; it shouldn't be too difficult to find out.

Oh shit, thought it was a Bury forum for some reason, silly me

Gissa job

Mr Day and his borrowing on 08:10 - Nov 15 with 4571 views

PDIDDY

Mr Day and his borrowing on 00:33 - Nov 15 by judd

More old info, keep it coming haha

Gissa job

Mr Day and his borrowing on 08:24 - Nov 15 with 4565 views

Pale_Dale

Mr Day and his borrowing on 21:27 - Nov 14 by nordenblue
Im not sad enough to bother registering on another teams message board tbf. Would you not question why your chairman has taken a massive loan out with extortionate interest rates against the club, if hes as wealthy as he cracks on why the need for a loan?

Ok ask some of your friends on here who have registered and post regularly on there. I presume you are calling them sad as well?

Mr Day and his borrowing on 08:32 - Nov 15 with 4552 views

nordenblue

Mr Day and his borrowing on 08:24 - Nov 15 by Pale_Dale
Ok ask some of your friends on here who have registered and post regularly on there. I presume you are calling them sad as well?

Not quite as sad as your good self id say, still not answering the question, doesn't matter though if you ignore the problem long enough it will go away right?

Mr Day and his borrowing on 08:37 - Nov 15 with 4550 views

Pale_Dale

Ok Judd. Shall we discuss your directors then? Lets begin with Andrew Kelly and his 11 appointments. I'm sure you have already researched them thoroughly so please tell me the background of the following. I'm sure its all perfectly explainable so tell me what you know.

OPENWORK PARTNERSHIP LLP Disqualified Director Appointed with No Exception LLP Member 01/06/2005 ** Sure this is perfectly explainable but no doubt you can tell me the reason without looking it up **

JF FOUNDATION Company not trading Director 14/12/2012

GRIMES LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 30/10/1997
GRIMES LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 30/10/1997

I presume you can also tell me the background of your chairman and in particular the below.

CHRISTOPHER M. DUNPHY LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 21/02/1992

Don't forget to tell us about James Marsh

R.S.M. (NORTH WEST) LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 15/11/1991 -
BENTLEY & ARMSTRONG LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 13/06/1991 -
R.S.M. (NORTH WEST) LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 15/11/1991 -
J & R MARSH LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 30/11/1990 -
BI-MAG LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 08/11/1993 22/12/1997
BENTLEY & ARMSTRONG LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 13/06/1991 20/12/1997
J & R MARSH LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 30/11/1990

and finally Paul Hazelhurst

H U P LIMITED Company is dissolved Director 15/02/1993 03/11/1995
1:3 FILMS LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 09/11/1999 -
MODELWORLD LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 15/01/1999 -
MODELMASTER LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 15/01/1999 -
THE MODEL CENTRE LIMITED Company is dissolved Company Secretary 30/07/1998 13/11/2000

Shall I go on?

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Mr Day and his borrowing on 08:55 - Nov 15 with 4523 views

Pale_Dale

Mr Day and his borrowing on 08:32 - Nov 15 by nordenblue
Not quite as sad as your good self id say, still not answering the question, doesn't matter though if you ignore the problem long enough it will go away right?

Feel free to give me a thorough explanation to the questions I have put to Judd. I suspect he will need help unless you lot want to come across as gobshites who haven't thoroughly checked the precise background of your own board and each directorship they have ever had and why the businesses dissolved.

I'm busy for the next few days so we can pick up on this next week where I trust all will have been made clear. Have a nice weekend chuck.

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Mr Day and his borrowing on 09:02 - Nov 15 with 4515 views

DomDale

Mr Day and his borrowing on 00:33 - Nov 15 by judd

Most developers register a Special Purpose Vehicle per site so the number of directorships isn't too odd considering they (Rainbow Homes) have a few on going developments.

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Mr Day and his borrowing on 09:05 - Nov 15 with 4507 views

stomper

Mr Day and his borrowing on 08:55 - Nov 15 by Pale_Dale

[Post edited 15 Nov 2014 9:02]

Yeah Stewie's ar$e won't lick itself.

Mr Day and his borrowing on 09:09 - Nov 15 with 4499 views

nordenblue

Mr Day and his borrowing on 08:55 - Nov 15 by Pale_Dale

[Post edited 15 Nov 2014 9:02]

Judd won't require any help, you fail spectacularly to see the obvious.Your club is grossly overspending ours isnt regardless of their backgrounds, it really is that simple pops?

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