| Scott Parker 22:24 - Aug 27 with 11391 views | Red_Ranger |
Ha ha ha
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| Scott Parker on 12:39 - Aug 30 with 2038 views | TomS |
| Scott Parker on 11:07 - Aug 30 by Northernr |
Signings signings signings signings.
It's a shame the actual football games have to get in the way really. |
Is there still a role for coaches in the modern game? You know, those guys whose job it is to improve players and get them to understand and execute a role on the pitch aligned to their ability. Other than Pep and Jurgen, I'm struggling to think of decent coaches in the Premier League. |  | | |
| Scott Parker on 12:54 - Aug 30 with 1935 views | nix |
| Scott Parker on 12:39 - Aug 30 by TomS |
Is there still a role for coaches in the modern game? You know, those guys whose job it is to improve players and get them to understand and execute a role on the pitch aligned to their ability. Other than Pep and Jurgen, I'm struggling to think of decent coaches in the Premier League. |
Arteta? Conte? More controversially but I think fairly, Frank. The first two have taken on sides that were underperforming and seem to have started to turn them round. Frank has done the incredibly difficult task of taking a smallish club up to the Prem and keeping them there without breaking the bank. £70 million over two seasons is a lot but nothing compared to what the top six spend.
I think Viera might be an interesting one in the longer term if he's given time. I'm sure there are others but we seem to have fewer Pulis, Fat Sams and Redknapps these days. |  | | |
| Scott Parker on 13:06 - Aug 30 with 1863 views | Maggsinho |
| Scott Parker on 12:54 - Aug 30 by nix |
Arteta? Conte? More controversially but I think fairly, Frank. The first two have taken on sides that were underperforming and seem to have started to turn them round. Frank has done the incredibly difficult task of taking a smallish club up to the Prem and keeping them there without breaking the bank. £70 million over two seasons is a lot but nothing compared to what the top six spend.
I think Viera might be an interesting one in the longer term if he's given time. I'm sure there are others but we seem to have fewer Pulis, Fat Sams and Redknapps these days. |
Graham Potter at Brighton seems to be doing great things at the moment too. |  | | |
| Scott Parker on 13:09 - Aug 30 with 1846 views | derbyhoop |
Seems harsh.
He got them promoted and they are only 4 games into a 38 game season. Last Saturday must have embarrassing but even so. |  |
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| Scott Parker on 13:14 - Aug 30 with 1800 views | loftus77 |
| Scott Parker on 13:09 - Aug 30 by derbyhoop |
Seems harsh.
He got them promoted and they are only 4 games into a 38 game season. Last Saturday must have embarrassing but even so. |
Yep...this.
Don't rate him as a manager but it was Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool - 'irrelevant' teams as far as Bournemouth are concerned. The opening day win over Villa was the big one. You don't drop any more points for losing 0-9 at Anfield than 0-1.
The same with Dundee Utd - Celtic are in 'another league' in every way.
Ridiculous decisions. | | | |
| Scott Parker on 13:22 - Aug 30 with 1756 views | kensalriser |
| Scott Parker on 10:18 - Aug 30 by James_Paddocks |
Essentially, he's been sacked for slagging the board off after Saturday's horror show.
Athletic journalists rushing to his defence already, which is fcking nauseating. |
Makes sense - he bruised a big, powerful ego. |  |
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| Scott Parker on 13:36 - Aug 30 with 1694 views | James_Paddocks |
| Scott Parker on 13:09 - Aug 30 by derbyhoop |
Seems harsh.
He got them promoted and they are only 4 games into a 38 game season. Last Saturday must have embarrassing but even so. |
He's not been sacked because of results.
He's been punted because he publicly called out his board to spend even more. |  | | |
| Scott Parker on 13:58 - Aug 30 with 1609 views | Northernr |
| Scott Parker on 12:39 - Aug 30 by TomS |
Is there still a role for coaches in the modern game? You know, those guys whose job it is to improve players and get them to understand and execute a role on the pitch aligned to their ability. Other than Pep and Jurgen, I'm struggling to think of decent coaches in the Premier League. |
Graham Potter for me is the best manager in there atm.
A good manager outside the Champions League clubs now, for me, is somebody who gets results while playing football more fans want to watch (increasing revenue), knows he’s going to lose his best players but is excited and enthused by who they can buy and develop with the money rather than mosning about, coaches and improves what he has rather than just demanding new players all the time, looks beyond the next six games. He ticks all of that and more. Brighton just sold two players for the money it cost them to build their whole stadium, and the team has got better. |  | | |
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| Scott Parker on 14:19 - Aug 30 with 1520 views | switchingcode |
| Scott Parker on 13:58 - Aug 30 by Northernr |
Graham Potter for me is the best manager in there atm.
A good manager outside the Champions League clubs now, for me, is somebody who gets results while playing football more fans want to watch (increasing revenue), knows he’s going to lose his best players but is excited and enthused by who they can buy and develop with the money rather than mosning about, coaches and improves what he has rather than just demanding new players all the time, looks beyond the next six games. He ticks all of that and more. Brighton just sold two players for the money it cost them to build their whole stadium, and the team has got better. |
Have always held Brighton (as well as another ) as a good example of how a club should be run and they have done incredibly well to get to where they are.I was very surprised when I saw how much debt and high losses they incurred in their last accounts even allowing for the building of a new stadium that came fairly cheap.I have seen them play at The Goldstone Gillingham Withdean and Falmer stadium talk about bumpy journey. | | | |
| Scott Parker on 15:43 - Aug 30 with 1294 views | NewBee |
| Scott Parker on 10:05 - Aug 30 by denhamhoop2 |
Classic case of very good player awful manager he made Alex Neill look like a purist in terms of his Bournemouth team trying to waste 89 minutes in Playoff second leg defeat at Brentford. Then throw in in spite of having maybe the best squad in the division last year was allowed to bring in 6 very expensive loan signings and yet grinding their way to promotion. Bit harsh though considering their 3 defeats are against Arsenal Man City and Liverpool which surely no one but the most optimistic Bournemouth fan would expect anything out of points wise |
"Then throw in in spite of having maybe the best squad in the division last year was allowed to bring in 6 very expensive loan signings and yet grinding their way to promotion."
Such is the gulf in class between the two divisions that having the best Championship squad is no guarantee you'll be competitive in the PL - more often than not you won't.
And as for the "expensive loan signings" etc, not only was this a temporary arrangement to get them over the line, but their wages will have been more than accounted for by the $15m transfer profit they made last season:
https://www.transfermarkt.us/afc-bournemouth/transfers/verein/989/saison_id/2021
While I doubt very much that the Owner/Board complained about the "grinding", shithouse football when it got them up, either.
In the end, he was sacked not for the style of play, or even the hammering by L'pool etc, but for pointing out what the world and his wife alrready knew, namely that the squad he had to work with is nowhere nearly good enough at this level.
Which is nothing more than you'd expect from a foreign owner who has only spent the minimum on the team, nothing on the stadium, with any money invested in the club being virtually all in the form of loans, not equity.
But yeah, you cannot ignore the First Rule of Football, which is that there is no problem in the game that cannot be solved by sacking the manager.
Which is why eg Rochdale are in the Champions League season-in, season-out.... | | | |
| Scott Parker on 16:44 - Aug 30 with 1180 views | ManinBlack |
| Scott Parker on 13:14 - Aug 30 by loftus77 |
Yep...this.
Don't rate him as a manager but it was Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool - 'irrelevant' teams as far as Bournemouth are concerned. The opening day win over Villa was the big one. You don't drop any more points for losing 0-9 at Anfield than 0-1.
The same with Dundee Utd - Celtic are in 'another league' in every way.
Ridiculous decisions. |
Unfortunately managers who arrive in the Premier league from the Championship don't last long if they make a bad start as the panic button is pressed early in the belief a new man will keep them up. Already Bournemouth have a big deficit in the GD which they won't overturn into a plus.
The Southampton manager survived a 9-0 but possibly because they are an established club and not newly promoted. I am certain if we went up last season and started badly we would have sacked Warburton early doors. Warnock didn't last long in our return to the top division despite all he did to get us there.
I think the Dundee United situation is a bit different. Their last 4 games saw them lose 7-0 to Alkmaar, 4-1 to Hearts, 3-0 to St Mirren and 9-0 to Celtic. Your team concedes 23 in 4 games and your job is on the line. Nobody loses 3-0 at home to St Mirren so the board were probably ready to pull the trigger with another bad result and then Celtic arrived and delivered the final blow |  | | |
| Scott Parker on 19:26 - Aug 30 with 967 views | CamberleyR |
| Scott Parker on 16:44 - Aug 30 by ManinBlack |
Unfortunately managers who arrive in the Premier league from the Championship don't last long if they make a bad start as the panic button is pressed early in the belief a new man will keep them up. Already Bournemouth have a big deficit in the GD which they won't overturn into a plus.
The Southampton manager survived a 9-0 but possibly because they are an established club and not newly promoted. I am certain if we went up last season and started badly we would have sacked Warburton early doors. Warnock didn't last long in our return to the top division despite all he did to get us there.
I think the Dundee United situation is a bit different. Their last 4 games saw them lose 7-0 to Alkmaar, 4-1 to Hearts, 3-0 to St Mirren and 9-0 to Celtic. Your team concedes 23 in 4 games and your job is on the line. Nobody loses 3-0 at home to St Mirren so the board were probably ready to pull the trigger with another bad result and then Celtic arrived and delivered the final blow |
Hasenhüttl actually survived two nine nils. Man U beat them at Old Trafford a couple of seasons ago as well as the 9-0 at home against Leicester. After the Man U thrashing they also lost four of the next five.
Shows the value of not immediately pressing the panic button. |  |
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