| Right man. Right time? – Column on 08:12 - Nov 1 with 3250 views | Northernr |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 07:39 - Nov 1 by ngbqpr |
I know he can come across as an insufferably smug tw@t, but I have to say I frequently rate Jordan's punditry.
The compare and contrast with White there is a case in point - his degree of knowledge and open mind vs JW's digging for negativity and sensationalism. |
Yeh I was expecting a big jingoistic tubthumping diatribe there about how only Warnock/Allardyce/Pulis could ever possibly get you out of this and some Johnny Foreigner could never possibly comprehend the intricacies of Bristol City away, but he went the other way - despite that gobshte trying to poke him in the other direction. |  | |  |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 08:24 - Nov 1 with 3175 views | lassel |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 06:25 - Nov 1 by SK_hoops |
Maybe Millwall weren't aware of him? |
Unlikely as he coached there a few years back….
At the risk of being cynical, it could also very well be that the fact QPR leadership is such a shambles is attractive to managers - Norf has written before that Beale’s condition of taking the job was that he got exclusive say over all signings for example and for someone like Cifuentes who has worked only as a ‘head coach’ before, the fact that if he can get through this season the owners will undoubtedly give him the chequebook and leave him to it must be attractive, especially when his big signing at Hammarby was ‘FM Regen 7’ from Montenegro, if he’s going to have to wheel and deal in unconventional markets I’m sure he doesn’t want to go somewhere he might be fighting the DOF or Recruitment committee on signings. |  | | |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 08:34 - Nov 1 with 3122 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Wouldn't there be a problem getting work permits for unheralded players from unconventional markets? |  |
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| Right man. Right time? – Column on 08:56 - Nov 1 with 3043 views | Northernr |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 08:34 - Nov 1 by BrianMcCarthy |
Wouldn't there be a problem getting work permits for unheralded players from unconventional markets? |
Not necessarily. It's done on a points system now, depending on all manner of criteria including how that country's national team is performing. So we've been scouting Colombia, Watford bought a Colombian in the summer, you'd never have been able to do that before. Not sure where we are on the Scandi markets now but to begin with Denmark, where obviously clever shts like Brentford do a lot of shopping, took a hit to begin with. | | | |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 08:57 - Nov 1 with 3028 views | hubble |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 08:24 - Nov 1 by lassel |
Unlikely as he coached there a few years back….
At the risk of being cynical, it could also very well be that the fact QPR leadership is such a shambles is attractive to managers - Norf has written before that Beale’s condition of taking the job was that he got exclusive say over all signings for example and for someone like Cifuentes who has worked only as a ‘head coach’ before, the fact that if he can get through this season the owners will undoubtedly give him the chequebook and leave him to it must be attractive, especially when his big signing at Hammarby was ‘FM Regen 7’ from Montenegro, if he’s going to have to wheel and deal in unconventional markets I’m sure he doesn’t want to go somewhere he might be fighting the DOF or Recruitment committee on signings. |
I'm also guessing that the board have told Marti that there will be funds available in January. I think that may have been crucial to sealing the deal, because with out any shadow of a doubt, Marti knows this squad needs some serious reconstruction. |  |
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| Right man. Right time? – Column on 09:07 - Nov 1 with 2990 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 08:56 - Nov 1 by Northernr |
Not necessarily. It's done on a points system now, depending on all manner of criteria including how that country's national team is performing. So we've been scouting Colombia, Watford bought a Colombian in the summer, you'd never have been able to do that before. Not sure where we are on the Scandi markets now but to begin with Denmark, where obviously clever shts like Brentford do a lot of shopping, took a hit to begin with. |
Sound, thanks. | |
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| Right man. Right time? – Column on 09:23 - Nov 1 with 2927 views | lassel |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 08:34 - Nov 1 by BrianMcCarthy |
Wouldn't there be a problem getting work permits for unheralded players from unconventional markets? |
I’m 99.99% sure they softened the rules this summer to allow every team to bring in at least 1 player that wouldn’t be able to qualify for a WP - it’s why everyone we have faced this season has a random FM Regen on loan from a Central European 2nd division. | | | |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 10:13 - Nov 1 with 2778 views | Juzzie |
"31 points form the top!" White exclaims and Jordan rightly put him straight but I guess his mandate is to provoke.
White does make the point about why not go for Warnock who knows the division, and I get that, but maybe QPR were worried that Marti, who by the sounds of it wanted to come here, may have gone elsewhere by the time next summer comes around and any opportunity to get him on board (by then it would be two years since we first showed interest) will have gone so we had to move now, however much of a gamble it may seem.
In a way, I'm OK that we didn't get Warnock back. I just get the feeling his magic dust can't go on forever and it would just be very QPR that it didn't work out.
Like anything though, we'll never know. |  | | |
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| Right man. Right time? – Column on 11:39 - Nov 1 with 2593 views | TeddRanger |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 10:13 - Nov 1 by Juzzie |
"31 points form the top!" White exclaims and Jordan rightly put him straight but I guess his mandate is to provoke.
White does make the point about why not go for Warnock who knows the division, and I get that, but maybe QPR were worried that Marti, who by the sounds of it wanted to come here, may have gone elsewhere by the time next summer comes around and any opportunity to get him on board (by then it would be two years since we first showed interest) will have gone so we had to move now, however much of a gamble it may seem.
In a way, I'm OK that we didn't get Warnock back. I just get the feeling his magic dust can't go on forever and it would just be very QPR that it didn't work out.
Like anything though, we'll never know. |
I think Jordan makes some sound points.
However, he is such a contrarian that if White had pushed the "Cifuentes is a great choice" line, Jordan would be arguing Warnock's merits! | | | |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 11:41 - Nov 1 with 2579 views | Northernr |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 11:39 - Nov 1 by TeddRanger |
I think Jordan makes some sound points.
However, he is such a contrarian that if White had pushed the "Cifuentes is a great choice" line, Jordan would be arguing Warnock's merits! |
The whole TalkSport business plan and editorial policy summed up. | | | |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 11:44 - Nov 1 with 2564 views | Andybrat |
Anyone know if he is actually in the Heston house? | | | |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 11:46 - Nov 1 with 2560 views | Maggsinho |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 11:44 - Nov 1 by Andybrat |
Anyone know if he is actually in the Heston house? |
He is
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| Right man. Right time? – Column on 15:21 - Nov 1 with 2128 views | QPunkR |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 11:46 - Nov 1 by Maggsinho |
He is
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Looks like he sat on something unexpected |  |
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| Right man. Right time? – Column on 23:14 - Nov 1 with 1598 views | Loftgirl |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 15:21 - Nov 1 by QPunkR |
Looks like he sat on something unexpected |
Maybe he didn't see Taylor Richards tying his shoelaces. |  | | |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 23:46 - Nov 1 with 1526 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 09:16 - Oct 31 by joe90 |
Great article.
What should be an exciting and welcomed appointment, I view with an extreme amount of scepticism. The current state of the club and squad fills me with absolutely no confidence.
I appreciate that he was probably meant to come in instead of Ainsworth, but it's typical of QPR that we had to make a 'temporary' appointment that produced some of the worst football I can remember at Loftus Road. I know it's a cliche to say 'typical QPR', but that 'typical' isn't us being unlucky, it stops being 'unlucky' when it happens over and over again.
Like a lot of things in life it's about timing and experience teaches you to make decisions at the right time. QPR never learns. We're the idiot at the back of the class parroting a joke that's already out of fashion.
We're going down. There may be brief, fleeting moments of footballing brilliance that show what could have been, but in the end we'll go down because this squad doesn't have the fitness, mentality, technical ability or depth to stay up.
If Cifuentes stays beyond 2024 I will be astonished. |
This is downbeat, to be sure, but I tend to feel similarly, which is also why I would probably have favoured Warnock as a safe pair of hands until the summer at least.
What's interesting is that he's apparently been on the club's radar for a year or so - pre-Gareth, pre-Critchley, and maybe even pre-Boil. So, in effect, all those managers were presumably stand-ins in effect.
As for the club itself, with Hoos apparently now employed to run the entire show, well, it's a shit-show either way, while front of house this squad is not committed, clever, talented or fit enough to keep us up in my view, whatever fairy dust MC may sprinkle.
All in all, it's a muted greeting from me, but I guess the b'stards have ground me down. [Post edited 1 Nov 2023 23:48]
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| Right man. Right time? – Column on 23:49 - Nov 1 with 1520 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 08:57 - Nov 1 by hubble |
I'm also guessing that the board have told Marti that there will be funds available in January. I think that may have been crucial to sealing the deal, because with out any shadow of a doubt, Marti knows this squad needs some serious reconstruction. |
Even if there are, and we'd better hope there are, by then it may well be too late. | |
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| Right man. Right time? – Column on 10:35 - Nov 2 with 1152 views | westberksr |
fab read Clive... I've left it a couple of days and couldn't even bring myself to read the last match report.
this is about as QPRsy as it could be. Plenty of games left and if he can get the Willock/Chair magic going again he might just keep us up. That's the benefit of this totally mental madcap division.
...... or we go down as we all suspect will be the outcome |  | | |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 11:27 - Nov 2 with 1106 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Right man. Right time? – Column on 20:06 - Oct 31 by Hoopsie |
Agreed about London club
What about Millwall, London club, more stable, looking for next manager to bring them up the next level
QPR? Relegation threatened and odds on favourites. Not won at home for a year. Poor results. Bang average players (some alleged L1 or L2 standard). FFP handicap - no money. Academy players I won’t go there. Just sacked 2 managers in 8 months.
West London. Nice, but QPR?
Don’t get me wrong, I am happy he’s here although initially I preferred Warnock. But surely through the basket case of our club he must have seen something that he thought he could work on and deliver the results. No one comes to a “new” country (first first head coach job in England) to fail. He must have seen something we don’t, come on, many here wants to sack the board too
I hope he does well. Actually I am quite trilled about the football he’s going to play |
Thing is, he won't be playing the football, it's the likes of Dozzell, Kakay and Armstrong that will have to implement his coaching/playing style.
At the end of the day, it comes down to the ability and mindset of the players. Man City have got the best coach and the best players, hence their success.
Really don't know what to expect on Saturday, but will be interesting for sure. | | | |
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