| Oldham Match Thread 11:44 - Mar 15 with 10896 views | Rodingdale |
Mitchell, Bird, Barlow and Burger all starting. |  | | |  |
| Oldham Match Thread on 00:43 - Mar 16 with 2632 views | D_Alien |
Said last week that putting in a performance was the key issue
Couldn't be there but sounds like we did what was needed, up till late on at least, so keeps our momentum going whilst other teams might be suffering a dip |  |
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| Oldham Match Thread on 06:35 - Mar 16 with 2400 views | frenzied |
its poss already happened..id like see Bird and Hendo start a game together.
With the physicality of one and the guille of the other it may be effective | | | |
| Oldham Match Thread on 06:40 - Mar 16 with 2393 views | TalkingSutty |
| Oldham Match Thread on 00:43 - Mar 16 by D_Alien |
Said last week that putting in a performance was the key issue
Couldn't be there but sounds like we did what was needed, up till late on at least, so keeps our momentum going whilst other teams might be suffering a dip |
We played well yesterday and as pointed out in previous posts on this thread, we are easily good enough to finish in a play off spot. The league table doesn't lie and we are in a very good position now. Boston on Tuesday would be massive if we could beat them, which we should do if we want to be viewed as serious contenders. I hope that McNulty doesnt try to shoe horn EEL into the team by tinkering with the defence. We have the best defensive record in the league so that part of the team is working. Birds injury is a concern, with Rodney out long term we could be short on options again. Bird wasn't match fit when we signed him which Jim pointed out in his interview. Is there a cut off date for signing players this month? [Post edited 16 Mar 6:45]
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| Oldham Match Thread on 07:42 - Mar 16 with 2288 views | kel |
Glad the games with these oddballs are now out of the way. There’s been a lot of criticism about our style of play this season (often justified) but I’m glad I don’t have to watch Oldham every week. The most anti-football side I’ve seen for years. Hoof and hope for the best is the kindest way of describing it.
And if I was an Oldham council tax payer I’d be fuming that some of my money was used for that pitch. Our problems are well documented but for what they’ve been given when they brought out the begging bowl, it’s an absolute disgrace. |  |
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| Oldham Match Thread on 08:07 - Mar 16 with 2201 views | seasidedale |
| Oldham Match Thread on 06:40 - Mar 16 by TalkingSutty |
We played well yesterday and as pointed out in previous posts on this thread, we are easily good enough to finish in a play off spot. The league table doesn't lie and we are in a very good position now. Boston on Tuesday would be massive if we could beat them, which we should do if we want to be viewed as serious contenders. I hope that McNulty doesnt try to shoe horn EEL into the team by tinkering with the defence. We have the best defensive record in the league so that part of the team is working. Birds injury is a concern, with Rodney out long term we could be short on options again. Bird wasn't match fit when we signed him which Jim pointed out in his interview. Is there a cut off date for signing players this month? [Post edited 16 Mar 6:45]
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| Oldham Match Thread on 08:16 - Mar 16 with 2170 views | TalkingSutty |
| Oldham Match Thread on 08:07 - Mar 16 by seasidedale |
Transfer deadline day 24th March |
Thanks for that. I hope Bird can shrug off his injury, i was surprised to see him come out for the second half yesterday. Without a player like him up front we don't pose enough threat. He ran through the Latics team at one point during the second half and put a chance on a plate for Mitchell, he half heartedly failed to test the keeper and ballooned the ball over the bar. He never looked like scoring what was a really good chance. He's too laid back and his anticipation is terrible, similar to Rodney. We might have to find another striker for the run in and it might be worth a financial gamble in trying to bring in somebody with a proven track record if possible. A Paddy Madden Jordan Rhodes type player. They turn draws into wins. We have some massive games coming up in the next six weeks and we can't be relying on Mitchell and Henderson to score the goals. [Post edited 16 Mar 8:26]
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| Oldham Match Thread on 09:07 - Mar 16 with 1987 views | D_Alien |
| Oldham Match Thread on 06:40 - Mar 16 by TalkingSutty |
We played well yesterday and as pointed out in previous posts on this thread, we are easily good enough to finish in a play off spot. The league table doesn't lie and we are in a very good position now. Boston on Tuesday would be massive if we could beat them, which we should do if we want to be viewed as serious contenders. I hope that McNulty doesnt try to shoe horn EEL into the team by tinkering with the defence. We have the best defensive record in the league so that part of the team is working. Birds injury is a concern, with Rodney out long term we could be short on options again. Bird wasn't match fit when we signed him which Jim pointed out in his interview. Is there a cut off date for signing players this month? [Post edited 16 Mar 6:45]
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Considering the major loss of momentum, it's impressive (by JM and the whole squad) that we've come back to where we are. That's a big tick inthe 'plus' column | |
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| Oldham Match Thread on 09:23 - Mar 16 with 1928 views | TalkingSutty |
| Oldham Match Thread on 09:07 - Mar 16 by D_Alien |
Considering the major loss of momentum, it's impressive (by JM and the whole squad) that we've come back to where we are. That's a big tick inthe 'plus' column |
Yes, it was relegation form leading into the Altrincham FA Trophy game and the fans were right to voice their displeasure after the Barnet game. They could see that the squad was under performing and results were poor. The players are a honest bunch they will have known that also.The response since then has been excellent. Boston is a great chance to pick up another win on Tuesday, it will be their second away game in a few days and the early kick off will have given us a bit more chance to rest also. Something else that needs mentioning from yesterday, Oldham pitch is worse than ours to play on. I dont want to hear McNulty citing tiredness and the pitch to excuse performance anymore, the squad is a good one and there's no reason why we can't claim a play off place. Let's talk up our chances and attack the remaining fixtures because there's nothing to fear in this league, both York and FGR are well beatable. If we fall short then so be it but let's not wimp out of contention and start playing the blame game. Some of the teams we are competing against are part time in this league and McNulty has been backed by the Ogdens this season. [Post edited 16 Mar 9:33]
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| Oldham Match Thread on 10:07 - Mar 16 with 1779 views | 442Dale |
What the management team and the players have proven over the last six games is that they have a way of playing that can be effective, entertaining and one which gets results. It might not suit all our personal tastes always, but with the addition of one type of player we have seen exactly what they’ve been trying to achieve for the last couple of seasons.
Nothing has changed fundamentally within that and there was little doubt that the manager would have been in big trouble if that run of results had continued. The Altrincham cup game was massive.
Now of course there will be mistakes made on and off the pitch (yesterday’s squad construction when utilising loan players being one), now though this team has evolved to a stage where supporters can see possible success in the future. Even yesterday I’ve seen some understandable criticism of us going more “defensive” in the second half. I don’t even think that was the case, it’s that Oldham got further up the field (Mellon notes they needed to in his Jurassic era interview) and we then didn’t keep the ball well enough once we defended that. It led to much needed substitutions, especially Allarakhia who was not coping with Caprice and too much of a reshuffle because of who was on the bench. We’d have still taken three points but for a fortuitous goal.
My main worry is how we cope if Bird is injured in the short term and how he’s replaced if we can’t keep him in the longer term. There’s now proof we need a mobile target man to play effectively using McNulty’s tactics. [Post edited 16 Mar 10:15]
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| Oldham Match Thread on 15:34 - Mar 16 with 1322 views | samueloneils |
| Oldham Match Thread on 08:16 - Mar 16 by TalkingSutty |
Thanks for that. I hope Bird can shrug off his injury, i was surprised to see him come out for the second half yesterday. Without a player like him up front we don't pose enough threat. He ran through the Latics team at one point during the second half and put a chance on a plate for Mitchell, he half heartedly failed to test the keeper and ballooned the ball over the bar. He never looked like scoring what was a really good chance. He's too laid back and his anticipation is terrible, similar to Rodney. We might have to find another striker for the run in and it might be worth a financial gamble in trying to bring in somebody with a proven track record if possible. A Paddy Madden Jordan Rhodes type player. They turn draws into wins. We have some massive games coming up in the next six weeks and we can't be relying on Mitchell and Henderson to score the goals. [Post edited 16 Mar 8:26]
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Can`t help wondering if we had that 3rd striker at the beginning of the season rather than multiple midfielders, we might have been up with the top 3 teams now. It always seemed an unbalanced squad to me. What a difference Bird has made in just a few outings.
Also neither Mitchell nor Rodney are natural leaders of the line, able to hold the ball up or turn with it. Jim is totally defence-minded, hence the slow buildups in possession.
We have to go for 3 point games now. Draws will not help. Home advantage in the playoffs will be key. Hopefully Jim has seen the light with recent successes. | | | |
| Oldham Match Thread on 16:01 - Mar 16 with 1254 views | 442Dale |
| Oldham Match Thread on 15:34 - Mar 16 by samueloneils |
Can`t help wondering if we had that 3rd striker at the beginning of the season rather than multiple midfielders, we might have been up with the top 3 teams now. It always seemed an unbalanced squad to me. What a difference Bird has made in just a few outings.
Also neither Mitchell nor Rodney are natural leaders of the line, able to hold the ball up or turn with it. Jim is totally defence-minded, hence the slow buildups in possession.
We have to go for 3 point games now. Draws will not help. Home advantage in the playoffs will be key. Hopefully Jim has seen the light with recent successes. |
If he was so defence minded he wouldn’t play wingers at wing back or have a two man midfield. The problem was, and in some ways still is, centres around how effectively we attack. Even McNulty said after yesterday how we need to be so much better when breaking on teams. | |
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| Oldham Match Thread on 16:05 - Mar 16 with 1248 views | TalkingSutty |
| Oldham Match Thread on 10:07 - Mar 16 by 442Dale |
What the management team and the players have proven over the last six games is that they have a way of playing that can be effective, entertaining and one which gets results. It might not suit all our personal tastes always, but with the addition of one type of player we have seen exactly what they’ve been trying to achieve for the last couple of seasons.
Nothing has changed fundamentally within that and there was little doubt that the manager would have been in big trouble if that run of results had continued. The Altrincham cup game was massive.
Now of course there will be mistakes made on and off the pitch (yesterday’s squad construction when utilising loan players being one), now though this team has evolved to a stage where supporters can see possible success in the future. Even yesterday I’ve seen some understandable criticism of us going more “defensive” in the second half. I don’t even think that was the case, it’s that Oldham got further up the field (Mellon notes they needed to in his Jurassic era interview) and we then didn’t keep the ball well enough once we defended that. It led to much needed substitutions, especially Allarakhia who was not coping with Caprice and too much of a reshuffle because of who was on the bench. We’d have still taken three points but for a fortuitous goal.
My main worry is how we cope if Bird is injured in the short term and how he’s replaced if we can’t keep him in the longer term. There’s now proof we need a mobile target man to play effectively using McNulty’s tactics. [Post edited 16 Mar 10:15]
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| Oldham Match Thread on 17:40 - Mar 16 with 1022 views | samueloneils |
| Oldham Match Thread on 16:01 - Mar 16 by 442Dale |
If he was so defence minded he wouldn’t play wingers at wing back or have a two man midfield. The problem was, and in some ways still is, centres around how effectively we attack. Even McNulty said after yesterday how we need to be so much better when breaking on teams. |
I don`t see midfielders having shooting very often. This is a defensive midfield- one concerned with holding onto the ball rather than releasing forward. The midfielders have scored 13 goals from 138 league appearances. That is very poor, and much worse than the Keohane/Lund/Sinclair days in a much higher standard. Couple that with only 2 goals in 84
appearances from the defenders -set pieces??
Either the players concerned are not encouraged to score, or they do not have the talent in their lockers. | | | |
| Oldham Match Thread on 19:32 - Mar 16 with 832 views | nordenblue |
| Oldham Match Thread on 10:07 - Mar 16 by 442Dale |
What the management team and the players have proven over the last six games is that they have a way of playing that can be effective, entertaining and one which gets results. It might not suit all our personal tastes always, but with the addition of one type of player we have seen exactly what they’ve been trying to achieve for the last couple of seasons.
Nothing has changed fundamentally within that and there was little doubt that the manager would have been in big trouble if that run of results had continued. The Altrincham cup game was massive.
Now of course there will be mistakes made on and off the pitch (yesterday’s squad construction when utilising loan players being one), now though this team has evolved to a stage where supporters can see possible success in the future. Even yesterday I’ve seen some understandable criticism of us going more “defensive” in the second half. I don’t even think that was the case, it’s that Oldham got further up the field (Mellon notes they needed to in his Jurassic era interview) and we then didn’t keep the ball well enough once we defended that. It led to much needed substitutions, especially Allarakhia who was not coping with Caprice and too much of a reshuffle because of who was on the bench. We’d have still taken three points but for a fortuitous goal.
My main worry is how we cope if Bird is injured in the short term and how he’s replaced if we can’t keep him in the longer term. There’s now proof we need a mobile target man to play effectively using McNulty’s tactics. [Post edited 16 Mar 10:15]
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We definitely went "more defensive" in the second half something I did mention yesterday, Oldham did come at us more after half time as obviously they needed to, we could have helped ourselves by not turning backwards so often and putting every man behind the ball, there was an almost identical passage of play when in the first half Barlow who I thought was critical to the way we played, during the first half he received the ball with acres of space ahead drove forwards in the second half he took an extra touch then turned round to find a pass backwards instead.
There's a clear improvement in how we've played recenty so massive credit for that and we shift it from back to front much faster too again its noticeable, I just think yesterday was a massive missed opportunity to put a few goals passed whats possibly the worst Oldham side ive ever seen, that's saying something too. | | | |
| Oldham Match Thread on 23:07 - Mar 16 with 525 views | dingdangblue |
| Oldham Match Thread on 19:32 - Mar 16 by nordenblue |
We definitely went "more defensive" in the second half something I did mention yesterday, Oldham did come at us more after half time as obviously they needed to, we could have helped ourselves by not turning backwards so often and putting every man behind the ball, there was an almost identical passage of play when in the first half Barlow who I thought was critical to the way we played, during the first half he received the ball with acres of space ahead drove forwards in the second half he took an extra touch then turned round to find a pass backwards instead.
There's a clear improvement in how we've played recenty so massive credit for that and we shift it from back to front much faster too again its noticeable, I just think yesterday was a massive missed opportunity to put a few goals passed whats possibly the worst Oldham side ive ever seen, that's saying something too. |
The turning point for me was that Mitchell miss. Bird was obviously struggling and probably the last thing he did was put that Mitchell chance on a plate for him. He ballooned over, Bird went off we started getting put under a bit more pressure. EEL came on and that definitely signalled Jim's intentions of just trying to hold onto the 1-0. |  |
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