| Dobbo Speaks 14:47 - Mar 22 with 4526 views | Dorse |
https://www.londonworld.com/sport/football/qpr/hands-tied-coach-explains-qpr-fai
If you can read in between the 42 ads for 'botox in a bottle ' or 'Doctors cannot believe this simple trick to clean your nostrils', there is a quick article on Gaz's time at the Rs.
'We knew that there was a dressing room there that was not in a good way. Half of them wanted to rip the heads off the other half...' Yikes. |  |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 14:57 - Mar 22 with 4026 views | sprocket |
He seemed like a decent bloke when he was here but that doesn't sound like the full story. The whole world knew we were in the shit with FFP so it sound a little mischievous and misleading. |  | | |
| Dobbo Speaks on 17:41 - Mar 22 with 3681 views | Hayesender |
I think we can pretty much guess who needed their heads ripping off |  |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 20:06 - Mar 22 with 3426 views | BrianWilson |
hmmmm I dunno....Marti and Xavi seemed to be able to work it out  |  |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 16:30 - Mar 23 with 2800 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Dobbo Speaks on 14:57 - Mar 22 by sprocket |
He seemed like a decent bloke when he was here but that doesn't sound like the full story. The whole world knew we were in the shit with FFP so it sound a little mischievous and misleading. |
Quite. Maybe it was all taken out of context, but what a load of whining and blame shifting. Hardly a surprise it was a tough task but we still had some decent players, most of whom watched the ball fly 10 miles over their heads most of the games. |  | | |
| Dobbo Speaks on 17:21 - Mar 23 with 2643 views | stainrods_elbow |
Agreed - what a whinger! Why take the job in the first place if it was all doomed from the outset? His comments on FFP and moving/not moving players out come over as virtually unintelligible. Why not just admit that he and Gaz weren't up to it? |  |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 18:21 - Mar 23 with 2505 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Well, the Haka is pretty aggressive. | | | |
| Dobbo Speaks on 20:03 - Mar 23 with 2298 views | Northernr |
Another indication of what a great job the current bloke is doing. |  | | |
| Dobbo Speaks on 20:04 - Mar 23 with 2293 views | E17hoop |
| Dobbo Speaks on 20:06 - Mar 22 by BrianWilson |
hmmmm I dunno....Marti and Xavi seemed to be able to work it out |
If you can't change the people, you change the people. Marti and Xavi managed it, GA and Dobbo didn't. |  |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 08:00 - Mar 24 with 1833 views | daveB |
he's not wrong in what he says but they did give him a healthyu udget to sign Begovic, Cook and Colback, it was hardly a big secret that the club were in trouble, we all knew
As Clive says though shows what a great job Marti did and continues to do |  | | |
| Dobbo Speaks on 09:55 - Mar 24 with 1583 views | themodfather |
surely in football, when you sit down for the manager/coach role, you ask questions like, do i have a budget, what is my pay, can i make loan deals??? ie the business stuff which football is.
as said no secret qpr have money worries, as many clubs do but as the only club fined under FFP it is common knowledge.
sadly under GA we played some awful footy and lost too many games. | | | |
| Dobbo Speaks on 10:42 - Mar 24 with 1471 views | TheChef |
| Dobbo Speaks on 09:55 - Mar 24 by themodfather |
surely in football, when you sit down for the manager/coach role, you ask questions like, do i have a budget, what is my pay, can i make loan deals??? ie the business stuff which football is.
as said no secret qpr have money worries, as many clubs do but as the only club fined under FFP it is common knowledge.
sadly under GA we played some awful footy and lost too many games. |
I get the impression that given where the club was at the time, both parties were desperate to get the deal done so I don't think many questions were asked! |  |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 10:51 - Mar 24 with 1414 views | BklynRanger |
Whatever the ratio of head rippers to head rippees,.Ainsworth and Dobbo never seemed to play in a way that suited the squad, or that they looked to be enjoying or engaged with in any way. That seemed to be the biggest problem as I remember it.
And I know we can say "but that's their fcuking job and they're paid handsomely for it" but it never works out that way does it.
Never doubted their desperation to succeed but it was wrong from the start and just got wronger. |  | | |
| Dobbo Speaks on 11:01 - Mar 24 with 1384 views | Monkey_Roots |
"Possession can do one" was the most depressing thing for a QPR fan.
The Wycombe mindset never really left them. |  | | |
| Dobbo Speaks on 11:18 - Mar 24 with 1307 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Dobbo Speaks on 20:03 - Mar 23 by Northernr |
Another indication of what a great job the current bloke is doing. |
That's a plausible logic, but I'm not sure it's right, as of course we've no one else to compare MC to. I think, rather, that GA and his set-up were just well out of their depth, and anyone half-competent would have improved things from an exceedingly low base.
With Marti, though I think he has many good qualities, he's still young and learning, and I don't (yet) wholeheartedly share the almost uncanny adulation he's held in by some of the fanbase (which I also don't think is good for him, or would be good for anyone, as it hardly keeps him on his toes - what keeps me a half-decent editor, hopefully, is that I'm fiercely perfectionistic and demanding of myself, as well as welcoming criticism). We've had some very good/promising phases under him, and also some absolutely dire dips/periods, both short and protracted, and both this season and last. Overall, it's indisputable we've been consistently inconsitent. This campaign we all thought we were going down for two or three months, then we had a pleasing upsurge that had some of us dreaming of the playoffs, and now we're on another poor run that is injecting relegation vertigo (which probably won't happen but still could).
Wherever you stand, it makes no sense whatseover to say our failings under GA were solely down to his lamentable coaching (rather than the players) while when the wheels come off now, as they quite often do/have, it's all down to the players rather than the coach. If Marti were a cake, for some fans, they'd have him and eat him every week.
If I were marking his performance/the season if it ended today, I'd describe it as 'very uneven', with a B minus for me at best, and lots of room for improvement. (It might possibly have been a low B, but for the Leciester game.) And I think that's decently generous. | |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 11:23 - Mar 24 with 1306 views | Northernr |
| Dobbo Speaks on 11:01 - Mar 24 by Monkey_Roots |
"Possession can do one" was the most depressing thing for a QPR fan.
The Wycombe mindset never really left them. |
Yeh it was a poor fit, sadly. | | | |
| Dobbo Speaks on 11:27 - Mar 24 with 1294 views | GaryHaddock |
| Dobbo Speaks on 11:18 - Mar 24 by stainrods_elbow |
That's a plausible logic, but I'm not sure it's right, as of course we've no one else to compare MC to. I think, rather, that GA and his set-up were just well out of their depth, and anyone half-competent would have improved things from an exceedingly low base.
With Marti, though I think he has many good qualities, he's still young and learning, and I don't (yet) wholeheartedly share the almost uncanny adulation he's held in by some of the fanbase (which I also don't think is good for him, or would be good for anyone, as it hardly keeps him on his toes - what keeps me a half-decent editor, hopefully, is that I'm fiercely perfectionistic and demanding of myself, as well as welcoming criticism). We've had some very good/promising phases under him, and also some absolutely dire dips/periods, both short and protracted, and both this season and last. Overall, it's indisputable we've been consistently inconsitent. This campaign we all thought we were going down for two or three months, then we had a pleasing upsurge that had some of us dreaming of the playoffs, and now we're on another poor run that is injecting relegation vertigo (which probably won't happen but still could).
Wherever you stand, it makes no sense whatseover to say our failings under GA were solely down to his lamentable coaching (rather than the players) while when the wheels come off now, as they quite often do/have, it's all down to the players rather than the coach. If Marti were a cake, for some fans, they'd have him and eat him every week.
If I were marking his performance/the season if it ended today, I'd describe it as 'very uneven', with a B minus for me at best, and lots of room for improvement. (It might possibly have been a low B, but for the Leciester game.) And I think that's decently generous. |
'That's a plausible logic, but I'm not sure it's right'
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| Dobbo Speaks on 12:47 - Mar 24 with 1127 views | BAWHoops |
| Dobbo Speaks on 20:06 - Mar 22 by BrianWilson |
hmmmm I dunno....Marti and Xavi seemed to be able to work it out |
Certainly they've been superb, but let's not underestimate the good fortune of Tony Mowbray being mates with Dozzell's dad and therefore we were able to shift £15k off the wage budget which gave us a bit of wiggle room in January to sign Hayden, Frey and Andersen |  |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 12:50 - Mar 24 with 1117 views | TheChef |
| Dobbo Speaks on 11:01 - Mar 24 by Monkey_Roots |
"Possession can do one" was the most depressing thing for a QPR fan.
The Wycombe mindset never really left them. |
The only upside is we won't have to scratch that itch again.
I thought he was turning things round at Shrewsbury but they're still bottom of League One and have lost four of the last five. | |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 13:17 - Mar 24 with 1001 views | kensalriser |
| Dobbo Speaks on 11:18 - Mar 24 by stainrods_elbow |
That's a plausible logic, but I'm not sure it's right, as of course we've no one else to compare MC to. I think, rather, that GA and his set-up were just well out of their depth, and anyone half-competent would have improved things from an exceedingly low base.
With Marti, though I think he has many good qualities, he's still young and learning, and I don't (yet) wholeheartedly share the almost uncanny adulation he's held in by some of the fanbase (which I also don't think is good for him, or would be good for anyone, as it hardly keeps him on his toes - what keeps me a half-decent editor, hopefully, is that I'm fiercely perfectionistic and demanding of myself, as well as welcoming criticism). We've had some very good/promising phases under him, and also some absolutely dire dips/periods, both short and protracted, and both this season and last. Overall, it's indisputable we've been consistently inconsitent. This campaign we all thought we were going down for two or three months, then we had a pleasing upsurge that had some of us dreaming of the playoffs, and now we're on another poor run that is injecting relegation vertigo (which probably won't happen but still could).
Wherever you stand, it makes no sense whatseover to say our failings under GA were solely down to his lamentable coaching (rather than the players) while when the wheels come off now, as they quite often do/have, it's all down to the players rather than the coach. If Marti were a cake, for some fans, they'd have him and eat him every week.
If I were marking his performance/the season if it ended today, I'd describe it as 'very uneven', with a B minus for me at best, and lots of room for improvement. (It might possibly have been a low B, but for the Leciester game.) And I think that's decently generous. |
It's encouraging that you're welcoming of criticism professionally.
Perhaps we can all help you in your quest in extending the same to your non-professional work. |  |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 13:24 - Mar 24 with 955 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Dobbo Speaks on 11:23 - Mar 24 by Northernr |
Yeh it was a poor fit, sadly. |
That's an understatement. The eventual outcome was obvious to every QPR fan before he arrived, it defied belief the board thought otherwise.
The fat maori from Wokingham was arguably one of the most embarrassing things QPR has subjected us to. Don't worry about the players, we should have received counselling for being subjected to it. |  |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 13:34 - Mar 24 with 878 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Dobbo Speaks on 11:27 - Mar 24 by GaryHaddock |
'That's a plausible logic, but I'm not sure it's right'
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Why not? | |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 13:37 - Mar 24 with 873 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Dobbo Speaks on 13:17 - Mar 24 by kensalriser |
It's encouraging that you're welcoming of criticism professionally.
Perhaps we can all help you in your quest in extending the same to your non-professional work. |
It's obviously different on an ultimately trivial football message board you'd be mad to lose sleep over, being basically irrational, fanatical, nutty, and sometimes nasty.Thanks so much for your generous (and not remotely smug) offer in the meantime, but any post on here that begins with the dreaded phrase 'we can all' immediately extinguishes my interest. [Post edited 24 Mar 13:39]
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| Dobbo Speaks on 13:42 - Mar 24 with 844 views | TheChef |
| Dobbo Speaks on 13:24 - Mar 24 by PlanetHonneywood |
That's an understatement. The eventual outcome was obvious to every QPR fan before he arrived, it defied belief the board thought otherwise.
The fat maori from Wokingham was arguably one of the most embarrassing things QPR has subjected us to. Don't worry about the players, we should have received counselling for being subjected to it. |
True but there was a kind of inevitability that he would always get a go as QPR manager (even if a few of us knew it would never go well).
Having somehow avoided relegation, the sensible thing to do at the end of that season would have been to shake hands, thank him for his efforts and part ways. Unfortunately the club didn't do that.
Unless, we always knew Cifuentes would be available come November and we just looked to muddle through with GA until then. | |
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| Dobbo Speaks on 13:47 - Mar 24 with 798 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Dobbo Speaks on 13:42 - Mar 24 by TheChef |
True but there was a kind of inevitability that he would always get a go as QPR manager (even if a few of us knew it would never go well).
Having somehow avoided relegation, the sensible thing to do at the end of that season would have been to shake hands, thank him for his efforts and part ways. Unfortunately the club didn't do that.
Unless, we always knew Cifuentes would be available come November and we just looked to muddle through with GA until then. |
Marti's appointment shows that we really don't have to employ a former Rangers player to senior positions at the club - just find the best man for the job. | | | |
| Dobbo Speaks on 14:02 - Mar 24 with 725 views | GaryHaddock |
Literally your own words. Just reminded me of catchphrase. | | | |
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