| Four minutes of injury time 10:18 - Jan 25 with 2577 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
The parallels with the Man City match are obvious: down to ten men for a dumb sending-off to a moneybags club and conceding two injury-time goals for a famous victory that will be replayed endlessly across the media.
I checked and the City match had five minutes of injury time.
How can a professional football club concede two goals in four minutes of injury time? Surely you run down the clock? Keep possession. Keep it in the opposition half. Waste time.
A draw would have been gutting but it happens and on the second half performance was a fair result. But to concede again was pathetic. We literally handed Hollywood FC the money shot they wanted. [Post edited 25 Jan 10:19]
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| Four minutes of injury time on 16:44 - Jan 25 with 706 views | mart_Goblin |
| Four minutes of injury time on 15:36 - Jan 25 by ParkRoyalR |
Fair points well made,
I tend to be biased towards players who give their all for the team, hence staunch defender of both Dykes & Dunne who at times were the scape-goats for our support,
I tend to be critical (overly) of players who seem to play within themselves, hence giving up on Andre Dozzell in that Qtr Back role following a pre-season game at Wimbledon,
That 'quarter-back' role is pivotal in modern football, hence championing Chair to drop into the middle to be our Barry Bannan,
Madsen proved he can play that role very well in the 1st Half yesterday,
Lots of things went awry in that 2nd Half yesterday, including Wrexham's change of shape, our inability to freshen it up soon enough (eg Vale likewise seemed to disappear) etc
But that complete dis-connect between our defence and offence really stood out between the 45th & 80th minute,
Like the last 4 minutes, our Senior Players on the pitch have enough experience to see whats going wrong, speak to each other & fix it. |
Yes as I say I agreed with an awful lot of your OP.
Apologies for the stroppiness . I haven’t recovered 😀 |  | | |
| Four minutes of injury time on 18:42 - Jan 25 with 587 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Four minutes of injury time on 16:44 - Jan 25 by mart_Goblin |
Yes as I say I agreed with an awful lot of your OP.
Apologies for the stroppiness . I haven’t recovered 😀 |
Haha, all good, yes it was too soon as we're all a bit raw still,
Plenty of positives yesterday & with so many injuries & limited options on the bench, we were excellent in the 1st Half, hopefully we put two good halves together for our next game...checks fixtures (omg) | | | |
| Four minutes of injury time on 21:39 - Jan 25 with 424 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Four minutes of injury time on 18:42 - Jan 25 by ParkRoyalR |
Haha, all good, yes it was too soon as we're all a bit raw still,
Plenty of positives yesterday & with so many injuries & limited options on the bench, we were excellent in the 1st Half, hopefully we put two good halves together for our next game...checks fixtures (omg) |
Which would be great if football matches lasted 45 minutes. |  |
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| Four minutes of injury time on 22:48 - Jan 25 with 380 views | EalingHoop81 |
| Four minutes of injury time on 13:44 - Jan 25 by Northernr |
Could and should have had Edwards on in the 82 changes.
Said this a bit lately but you can't really be constantly talking about fatigue, fixture congestion, injuries, and then not using a full set of five subs as often as Stephan is.
Was it last week we only made three, and two of those on 86 mins? |
Big call to take Cook at that stage though. I can’t see who else he could have changed for Edwards….Field, Hayden and Madson were on in CM, Kolli and Benni just on, and on the wings…..so its Kone or Madson, which would have removed any ambition to attack. Had they got one back and we draw 2-2 everyone would have complained that we were inviting them onto us.
If it’s Cook, you’d be worried about the physical battle given the size of their team.
I completely agree on previous games, but he made four subs yesterday and sensible times.
We could have managed the final 8 mins far better and those senior players needed to push out from the box far better.
We also didn’t stick anyone at RB, Hayden could have gone there and brought Madson, Field and Benni back to the middle.
If you re-watch the highlights it was Kolli defending the RB spot from their corners and left with a 2 v 1.
Dunne, Cook, Field & Hayden needed to get together and get everyone in the right place to see out that game.
In around 500 game I can’t recall seeing such a change in 5 mins. They could have scored 4 or 5 times. Was like the Alamo…..absolutely insane. I was at Man City for the Aguerooooo goal and that wasn’t even that bad…. | | | |
| Four minutes of injury time on 23:03 - Jan 25 with 364 views | 7374Ranger |
| Four minutes of injury time on 14:21 - Jan 25 by Superhoops2808 |
I think you mean the 82nd minute or you've not read the post properly about subs |
Yes, I meant when Field came on he could have used Edwards as well. And yes, guilty as charged, I didn't read all the posts in the thread before submitting my post.
Stephan did not utilise the subs well and it is ridiculous to blame losses on fatigue when not making use of 5 subs in a match. | | | |
| Four minutes of injury time on 09:43 - Jan 26 with 239 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Four minutes of injury time on 23:03 - Jan 25 by 7374Ranger |
Yes, I meant when Field came on he could have used Edwards as well. And yes, guilty as charged, I didn't read all the posts in the thread before submitting my post.
Stephan did not utilise the subs well and it is ridiculous to blame losses on fatigue when not making use of 5 subs in a match. |
Edwards was of course the obvious move given the players available on the bench but even bringing on Adamson to play wide or effectively a second right-back would have made some sense just to get a knackered player off. I think it’s possible he just forgot entirely he’d used up the windows which would be less stupid than leaving the subs as late as he did given how obviously they were needed.
In the ludicrous era of five subs, at least one at half-time would make sense regularly regardless of how the game is going. Given we never seem to start the second half well it might be an idea to look at it given we haemorrhage territory and often goals from 45-60. | | | |
| Four minutes of injury time on 09:52 - Jan 26 with 220 views | wombat |
| Four minutes of injury time on 11:57 - Jan 25 by daveB |
I thought we just invited them to have long shots and put the ball in our box so was just asking for trouble, we managed that 4 minutes so poorly and even at 2-2 just keep the ball and take the point. Was really poor after what had been a much better performance before the sending off |
we just didnt handle it well , soon as the card went up dunne was asking the bench what to do , im guessing he was told bennie at right back and pray.
looking at both goals kone was slow to clsoe down and kolli the same.
prob would have bneen better to drop field into centre back and more dunne toi right back in hindsite with what was aval on the pitch |  |
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| Four minutes of injury time on 09:58 - Jan 26 with 199 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Four minutes of injury time on 09:52 - Jan 26 by wombat |
we just didnt handle it well , soon as the card went up dunne was asking the bench what to do , im guessing he was told bennie at right back and pray.
looking at both goals kone was slow to clsoe down and kolli the same.
prob would have bneen better to drop field into centre back and more dunne toi right back in hindsite with what was aval on the pitch |
Hindsight is great and all that but surely with the players available you move Dunne or Hayden to right-back and Field in the middle if you’re moving Dunne and have actual defenders defending. Was like they were all stood in entirely random positions between the ball and goal. | | | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:47 - Jan 26 with 94 views | EN_Ranger |
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| Four minutes of injury time on 22:55 - Jan 26 with 32 views | Loft1979 |
| Four minutes of injury time on 15:45 - Jan 25 by stainrods_elbow |
So, let's get this right, Kone isn't a striker who can play a little deeper off a main man, and he also isn't a target man you can hit in the traditional fashion! What kind of striker is he able to play as again? |
My observation: Wrexham ham Kieffer playing as Kone should. All their clearances went to Moore who then critically held the ball. Versus Kone playing deep in the box so we had no outlet.
ALSo. I recall a great out ball which resulted in Dembele tumbled. Then Madsen wastes the deadball opportunity. Maybe missed it in the write ups.
If we had Kone or Rumarm thats 3-1. |  | | |
| Four minutes of injury time on 23:08 - Jan 26 with 20 views | jeffranger50 |
| Four minutes of injury time on 15:36 - Jan 25 by ParkRoyalR |
Fair points well made,
I tend to be biased towards players who give their all for the team, hence staunch defender of both Dykes & Dunne who at times were the scape-goats for our support,
I tend to be critical (overly) of players who seem to play within themselves, hence giving up on Andre Dozzell in that Qtr Back role following a pre-season game at Wimbledon,
That 'quarter-back' role is pivotal in modern football, hence championing Chair to drop into the middle to be our Barry Bannan,
Madsen proved he can play that role very well in the 1st Half yesterday,
Lots of things went awry in that 2nd Half yesterday, including Wrexham's change of shape, our inability to freshen it up soon enough (eg Vale likewise seemed to disappear) etc
But that complete dis-connect between our defence and offence really stood out between the 45th & 80th minute,
Like the last 4 minutes, our Senior Players on the pitch have enough experience to see whats going wrong, speak to each other & fix it. |
Agree with all that & good post, I liked him & always gave his all | | | |
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