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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture 22:37 - Aug 10 with 4274 viewsSaintNick

They have their bid in for 2029 if they get it we will never hear the last of it

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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:51 - Aug 10 with 4236 viewsA1079

As much as I hate to say it, but as a city it has more to offer than Southampton. For some inexplicable reason, my home city, despite being a wealthy area, has done very little to make Southampton an attractive place to visit - heaven knows what people think that come to the city to join a cruise.
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:53 - Aug 10 with 4234 viewsSaintNick

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:51 - Aug 10 by A1079

As much as I hate to say it, but as a city it has more to offer than Southampton. For some inexplicable reason, my home city, despite being a wealthy area, has done very little to make Southampton an attractive place to visit - heaven knows what people think that come to the city to join a cruise.


The council have let this city down for all the time I can remember, whether they have been Labour, Tory or whatever, they have never made the most of what the City has to offer

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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:59 - Aug 10 with 4207 viewsarfurdent

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:51 - Aug 10 by A1079

As much as I hate to say it, but as a city it has more to offer than Southampton. For some inexplicable reason, my home city, despite being a wealthy area, has done very little to make Southampton an attractive place to visit - heaven knows what people think that come to the city to join a cruise.


"Where's the docks?"

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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 23:19 - Aug 10 with 4167 viewsBridders2

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:53 - Aug 10 by SaintNick

The council have let this city down for all the time I can remember, whether they have been Labour, Tory or whatever, they have never made the most of what the City has to offer


After WW2 Germany rebuilt many of it's bombed out towns and perfectly recreated the original town.
If Southampton had done that inside the city walls instead of building countless blocks of flats it could have been amazing. No vision for decades.

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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture (n/t) on 23:33 - Aug 10 with 4147 viewsRon11

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 23:19 - Aug 10 by Bridders2

After WW2 Germany rebuilt many of it's bombed out towns and perfectly recreated the original town.
If Southampton had done that inside the city walls instead of building countless blocks of flats it could have been amazing. No vision for decades.


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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 23:37 - Aug 10 with 4127 viewsRon11

They could make Paulsgrove the cultural epicentre
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 23:41 - Aug 10 with 4109 viewsMattFinish

I think take out an L, U, R and E and add an N and S and they could get it 😁
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 02:42 - Aug 11 with 4003 views1teeminants

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:51 - Aug 10 by A1079

As much as I hate to say it, but as a city it has more to offer than Southampton. For some inexplicable reason, my home city, despite being a wealthy area, has done very little to make Southampton an attractive place to visit - heaven knows what people think that come to the city to join a cruise.


Our city has been neglected over the years and it definitely lacks that wow factor but we don’t make the most of what we have. They’ve been talking about building a monument of the spitfire for years which we should all be proud of. It always amazes me how many people who come from Southampton do not even realise that the supermarine spitfire was first built in Woolston and the Germans saw it as something which had to be stopped resulting in them bombing the factory and production was then moved to different parts of the city.. Production also started at Castle Bromwich but that was later on .The spitfire plane was one of the major reasons why we won the Second World War yet people never talk about it down here . Imagine if it was first built in a northern city or even Portsmouth you’d never hear the end of it. We should all be proud of it.



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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 06:35 - Aug 11 with 3836 viewskernow

The demolition of the Ocean Terminal was an act of cultural vandalism. It was a beautiful, art deco style building.
By contrast, the amount of investment in the waterfronts in Portsmouth and Plymouth have made them attractive and interesting places to visit.
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 07:12 - Aug 11 with 3798 viewsgrumpy

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:59 - Aug 10 by arfurdent

"Where's the docks?"


"Where's the docks?"

Next to the water.
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 07:20 - Aug 11 with 3781 viewsgrumpy

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:53 - Aug 10 by SaintNick

The council have let this city down for all the time I can remember, whether they have been Labour, Tory or whatever, they have never made the most of what the City has to offer


Remember the
Top Rank Ballroom
Ice Skating
Bowling
Pier
Lido
Lions Café
Cadena Café
Checkpoint Cafe
The Swimming Baths as they used to be.
Numerous Department Stores with character.

Etc Etc
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 08:50 - Aug 11 with 3687 viewssolent_toffee

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:53 - Aug 10 by SaintNick

The council have let this city down for all the time I can remember, whether they have been Labour, Tory or whatever, they have never made the most of what the City has to offer


I went to Belfast last week, fantastic city. I went for a walk around the Titanic museum there and read all about how they reclaimed and developed the area around it. As you say, all parties have done nothing in terms of development. I parked in Mayflower Park a few mornings ago and it’s an absolute disgrace, nothing there, a few portaloos that have doors hanging off their hinges. It’s a disgrace. Lack of pride and lack of ambition.
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 08:58 - Aug 11 with 3665 viewsdirk_doone

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 22:59 - Aug 10 by arfurdent

"Where's the docks?"


It's funny you should say that because most visitors wouldn't even notice that Southampton is a port city. It's a city that's turned its back on the sea. The Above Bar area is all most people see of the city and that could just as well be in the middle of the country. There are even local people who've probably never even seen the cruise terminal in their lives unless they've had cause to use it.

In contrast, Portsmouth has highlighted its port area with the Gunwharf Quays development, the Spinnaker, the Historic Naval Dockyard, HMS Victory and Warrior.
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 09:12 - Aug 11 with 3628 viewssolent_toffee

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 08:58 - Aug 11 by dirk_doone

It's funny you should say that because most visitors wouldn't even notice that Southampton is a port city. It's a city that's turned its back on the sea. The Above Bar area is all most people see of the city and that could just as well be in the middle of the country. There are even local people who've probably never even seen the cruise terminal in their lives unless they've had cause to use it.

In contrast, Portsmouth has highlighted its port area with the Gunwharf Quays development, the Spinnaker, the Historic Naval Dockyard, HMS Victory and Warrior.
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When I first arrived here in 2000, the council, like many across the country, had just received a load of government funding to redevelop areas. Southampton spent a fortune on the top end of St Mary’s Street in the cut through towards SMS and the white elephant that is the conference centre in Thornhill. Scandalous waste of money.
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 09:49 - Aug 11 with 3564 viewsgrumpy

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 08:58 - Aug 11 by dirk_doone

It's funny you should say that because most visitors wouldn't even notice that Southampton is a port city. It's a city that's turned its back on the sea. The Above Bar area is all most people see of the city and that could just as well be in the middle of the country. There are even local people who've probably never even seen the cruise terminal in their lives unless they've had cause to use it.

In contrast, Portsmouth has highlighted its port area with the Gunwharf Quays development, the Spinnaker, the Historic Naval Dockyard, HMS Victory and Warrior.
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I sometimes wonder that people going on cruises from all over the country see more of the docks than the people that live here.

What happened to the

Southampton Show on the common
The Balloon Festival
The Tall Ships
The Fair on the common (like it used to be)
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 16:33 - Aug 11 with 3223 viewsA1079

I think Southampton has such a history to tell and could really be made into something and having the twin waterways and the solent is a big advantage but as many of you have said, they have not had vision, they have lacked any desire to do something and as much as they can use WWII as an excuse, well look at Germany (albeit they had Marshall Aid and we didn't), and especially at Warsaw and what they accomplished as an example (and that was under Soviet Union domination). You all make very valid points.
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 18:18 - Aug 11 with 3169 viewsBLEEDRED

I was in Belfast a few weeks ago and have to say the Titanic museum was very impressive, queues to get in something you don't see at the Sea City Museum!
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 23:56 - Aug 11 with 3004 viewsJoiedevivre

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 08:58 - Aug 11 by dirk_doone

It's funny you should say that because most visitors wouldn't even notice that Southampton is a port city. It's a city that's turned its back on the sea. The Above Bar area is all most people see of the city and that could just as well be in the middle of the country. There are even local people who've probably never even seen the cruise terminal in their lives unless they've had cause to use it.

In contrast, Portsmouth has highlighted its port area with the Gunwharf Quays development, the Spinnaker, the Historic Naval Dockyard, HMS Victory and Warrior.
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Makes for great conversation on traffic. High traffic is high time for the following two openings:

“Ship must be in in Port this weekend”

Alternatively

“Cricket must be on”
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 00:01 - Aug 12 with 3000 viewsJoiedevivre

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 16:33 - Aug 11 by A1079

I think Southampton has such a history to tell and could really be made into something and having the twin waterways and the solent is a big advantage but as many of you have said, they have not had vision, they have lacked any desire to do something and as much as they can use WWII as an excuse, well look at Germany (albeit they had Marshall Aid and we didn't), and especially at Warsaw and what they accomplished as an example (and that was under Soviet Union domination). You all make very valid points.


We did have Marshall aid - the most, in-fact. We are just lovers of brutalist architecture.
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 07:58 - Aug 12 with 2845 viewssolent_toffee

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 18:18 - Aug 11 by BLEEDRED

I was in Belfast a few weeks ago and have to say the Titanic museum was very impressive, queues to get in something you don't see at the Sea City Museum!


The Titanic museum in Belfast was rammed last week when I went,9am on a Thursday morning. It was fantastic as was the area around it. Where they have built flats around it, they’ve also built amenities, bars, restaurants, cinema, shops, gym, bowling alley etc. Whereas we have Ocean Village and a couple of bars, the cinema has now gone and there is pressure on Harbour Lights to ship out and be replaced by more flats.
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 09:42 - Aug 12 with 2772 viewsSaintNick

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 07:58 - Aug 12 by solent_toffee

The Titanic museum in Belfast was rammed last week when I went,9am on a Thursday morning. It was fantastic as was the area around it. Where they have built flats around it, they’ve also built amenities, bars, restaurants, cinema, shops, gym, bowling alley etc. Whereas we have Ocean Village and a couple of bars, the cinema has now gone and there is pressure on Harbour Lights to ship out and be replaced by more flats.


I had a look at the new Bargate quarter, it is nice that you can now see the old walls, but it is not the picturesque walk with artisan shops that was first mooted a decade ago.

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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 15:49 - Aug 15 with 2048 viewsPatfromPoole

Bump.

Amazingly, it seems Middlesboro are also bidding



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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 19:39 - Aug 15 with 1973 viewsSouthSeaSaint

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 07:58 - Aug 12 by solent_toffee

The Titanic museum in Belfast was rammed last week when I went,9am on a Thursday morning. It was fantastic as was the area around it. Where they have built flats around it, they’ve also built amenities, bars, restaurants, cinema, shops, gym, bowling alley etc. Whereas we have Ocean Village and a couple of bars, the cinema has now gone and there is pressure on Harbour Lights to ship out and be replaced by more flats.


The Titanic Museum in Belfast cost ÂŁ75m, half of which was Govt funded

Sea City in Soton cost less than half of that so this probably explains the disparity.

I have been three times but most of my mates dont even realise its there and complain there is nothing to do in Southampton
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Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 20:28 - Aug 15 with 1940 viewsgrumpy

Pompey Bid For City Of Culture on 19:39 - Aug 15 by SouthSeaSaint

The Titanic Museum in Belfast cost ÂŁ75m, half of which was Govt funded

Sea City in Soton cost less than half of that so this probably explains the disparity.

I have been three times but most of my mates dont even realise its there and complain there is nothing to do in Southampton


The trouble with the Titanic Museum in Southampton is its location,it should be quayside not buried in the Civic Centre.
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