| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 10:19 - Sep 21 with 1000 views | shotters |
Whenever I see Phil Parsons has done an interview I think “oh no, what’s he said now”
I’d rather he hadn’t done an interview and I don’t think this will help in any way
Firstly the club has already been punished, what TE will potentially receive is nothing to do with that, it’s a charge against him as an individual, so for Parsons to go on about the club already being punished enough is irrelevant. Secondly we haven’t missed out on promotion, we would have had to have played Hull and they could have beaten us, they already had twice that season
Preparing myself for TE getting a significant ban, at least there will finally be some clarity, quite why it’s taken this long to reach a verdict is baffling |  |
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| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 10:43 - Sep 21 with 975 views | Southamptonfan |
| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 10:19 - Sep 21 by shotters |
Whenever I see Phil Parsons has done an interview I think “oh no, what’s he said now”
I’d rather he hadn’t done an interview and I don’t think this will help in any way
Firstly the club has already been punished, what TE will potentially receive is nothing to do with that, it’s a charge against him as an individual, so for Parsons to go on about the club already being punished enough is irrelevant. Secondly we haven’t missed out on promotion, we would have had to have played Hull and they could have beaten us, they already had twice that season
Preparing myself for TE getting a significant ban, at least there will finally be some clarity, quite why it’s taken this long to reach a verdict is baffling |
The thing is though, if it was Tonda's fault then he should get punished and not the club. Why should the club get a punishment as well as Tonda? The club have alreadt been pinished severely, so not sure why both the club and Tonda ger punished. |  |
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| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 11:17 - Sep 21 with 906 views | shotters |
| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 10:43 - Sep 21 by Southamptonfan |
The thing is though, if it was Tonda's fault then he should get punished and not the club. Why should the club get a punishment as well as Tonda? The club have alreadt been pinished severely, so not sure why both the club and Tonda ger punished. |
Saints decided to stick with Tonda, their choice
I would imagine that would be how the FA view it and the charge being brought is against him and him alone, so to them it’s irrelevant what punishment the club have received as that was from the EFL
Not saying I like it but I would imagine that’s how it will be viewed
Those on the ruling panel will look at the facts of the case, judge on those and I doubt will even take into account what’s happened to the club | |
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| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 12:26 - Sep 21 with 815 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 10:19 - Sep 21 by shotters |
Whenever I see Phil Parsons has done an interview I think “oh no, what’s he said now”
I’d rather he hadn’t done an interview and I don’t think this will help in any way
Firstly the club has already been punished, what TE will potentially receive is nothing to do with that, it’s a charge against him as an individual, so for Parsons to go on about the club already being punished enough is irrelevant. Secondly we haven’t missed out on promotion, we would have had to have played Hull and they could have beaten us, they already had twice that season
Preparing myself for TE getting a significant ban, at least there will finally be some clarity, quite why it’s taken this long to reach a verdict is baffling |
I actually think it was better to give the interview. If he'd refused this would have got even more bad publicity and he put the case across quite well
Look, no one knows what will happen. We are all totally biased in the club's favour, and who's to say the FA will or will not be fair and reasonable as Parsons is implying
At least we'll have 2 weeks to sort something out for the biggest game of the season |  |
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| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 13:04 - Sep 21 with 758 views | Ifonly |
| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 11:17 - Sep 21 by shotters |
Saints decided to stick with Tonda, their choice
I would imagine that would be how the FA view it and the charge being brought is against him and him alone, so to them it’s irrelevant what punishment the club have received as that was from the EFL
Not saying I like it but I would imagine that’s how it will be viewed
Those on the ruling panel will look at the facts of the case, judge on those and I doubt will even take into account what’s happened to the club |
Anything could happen, but I think the FA will take into account the EFL punishment.
When they ruled on Bielsa, they said: "The FA worked closely with the EFL during the investigation into Leeds United FC observing opponent training sessions, and The FA notes the League's decision to charge Leeds for a breach of its Competition Rules."
That suggests that, in that case, they regarded the 2 disciplinary processes as linked and took into account the EFL decision. No reason to think they'll do it differently in our case.
But, one thing I think is being missed is that this is not all about the offence of spying. It will also address the treatment of Will Salt and the "bullying" involved in making a powerless intern do something he correctly said was wrong to do. In these woke times, I think it's unlikely that the FA will just let that pass, especially as it seems that Saints have not sought to punish Tonda for his actions (which I think was a mistake, for this reason). | | | |
| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 13:40 - Sep 21 with 692 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 13:04 - Sep 21 by Ifonly |
Anything could happen, but I think the FA will take into account the EFL punishment.
When they ruled on Bielsa, they said: "The FA worked closely with the EFL during the investigation into Leeds United FC observing opponent training sessions, and The FA notes the League's decision to charge Leeds for a breach of its Competition Rules."
That suggests that, in that case, they regarded the 2 disciplinary processes as linked and took into account the EFL decision. No reason to think they'll do it differently in our case.
But, one thing I think is being missed is that this is not all about the offence of spying. It will also address the treatment of Will Salt and the "bullying" involved in making a powerless intern do something he correctly said was wrong to do. In these woke times, I think it's unlikely that the FA will just let that pass, especially as it seems that Saints have not sought to punish Tonda for his actions (which I think was a mistake, for this reason). |
Has Tonda,or the club, commented on the Will Salt situation and what was said? I see from what Parsons said they have sympathise with him and will do what they can for him, but no comments on the supposed pressure statement | |
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| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 14:15 - Sep 21 with 639 views | Ifonly |
| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 13:40 - Sep 21 by kingslandstand1 |
Has Tonda,or the club, commented on the Will Salt situation and what was said? I see from what Parsons said they have sympathise with him and will do what they can for him, but no comments on the supposed pressure statement |
Not sure who's said what, but I have read that Will Salt is now in a permanent analyst role at SFC. Let no one say we've given him a permanent job to stop him talking!
It sounds like a lot of the firm evidence of what was said is in whatsapp messages. A lot might depend on whether any of those messages incriminate Tonda himself, or whether they're just second hand reports of what Tonda said and what he demanded from the analyst team. The FA won't like the way Salt was treated, but Tonda might be saved by the fact that he wasn't Salt's boss, so maybe didn't directly tell him what to do. | | | |
| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 18:54 - Sep 21 with 430 views | Southamptonfan |
| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 13:04 - Sep 21 by Ifonly |
Anything could happen, but I think the FA will take into account the EFL punishment.
When they ruled on Bielsa, they said: "The FA worked closely with the EFL during the investigation into Leeds United FC observing opponent training sessions, and The FA notes the League's decision to charge Leeds for a breach of its Competition Rules."
That suggests that, in that case, they regarded the 2 disciplinary processes as linked and took into account the EFL decision. No reason to think they'll do it differently in our case.
But, one thing I think is being missed is that this is not all about the offence of spying. It will also address the treatment of Will Salt and the "bullying" involved in making a powerless intern do something he correctly said was wrong to do. In these woke times, I think it's unlikely that the FA will just let that pass, especially as it seems that Saints have not sought to punish Tonda for his actions (which I think was a mistake, for this reason). |
But if he gets banned for 6 months or a year, all Tonda will do is get another job in Germany.or somewhere else in the world, whilst we lose a really good manager. The FA can't ban him in other countries as far as I am aware.
So Tonda won't actually have any punishment in that case? Meanwhile, Saints have had minus 4, thrown out of play offs and losing our manager. | |
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| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 20:11 - Sep 21 with 337 views | Ifonly |
| Tonda to be backed by Saints on 18:54 - Sep 21 by Southamptonfan |
But if he gets banned for 6 months or a year, all Tonda will do is get another job in Germany.or somewhere else in the world, whilst we lose a really good manager. The FA can't ban him in other countries as far as I am aware.
So Tonda won't actually have any punishment in that case? Meanwhile, Saints have had minus 4, thrown out of play offs and losing our manager. |
Yeah I agree it would be crazy, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.
Personally I think there's a decent chance that common sense will prevail, but as I said above I'm concerned about the "bullying" aspect. | | | |
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