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refs 20:47 - Dec 18 with 2919 viewsdigswellhoop

watched game earlier premierleague ref in charge
totally ruined the game
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refs on 10:43 - Dec 19 with 2182 viewsPinnerPaul

Could have given 2 reds, certainly should have been another yellow (or two) for Zhaka - but ruined?
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refs on 11:18 - Dec 19 with 2114 viewsWatford_Ranger

I guess it would have been worse if he wasn’t there.
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refs on 11:25 - Dec 19 with 2094 viewsPinnerPaul

refs on 11:18 - Dec 19 by Watford_Ranger

I guess it would have been worse if he wasn’t there.


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refs on 11:45 - Dec 19 with 2067 viewsloftboy

refs on 11:18 - Dec 19 by Watford_Ranger

I guess it would have been worse if he wasn’t there.


When I used to ref , 80’s, 90’s and early 2000,s when the losing team went off on one at the end I would say to them “I’ll tell you what, next time I’m due to referee you I’ll confirm the game then not turn up without any notice, then let me know how you got on”. 9/10 the penny dropped.

Nourry out
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refs on 12:17 - Dec 19 with 2028 viewsDixie_CT

refs on 11:45 - Dec 19 by loftboy

When I used to ref , 80’s, 90’s and early 2000,s when the losing team went off on one at the end I would say to them “I’ll tell you what, next time I’m due to referee you I’ll confirm the game then not turn up without any notice, then let me know how you got on”. 9/10 the penny dropped.


That they would be better off without you?? Just joking 🙃

Fair play to anyone brave enough to ref. I did my six games to qualify and got selected for a county cup final line but my anxiety kicked in and I rejected it because I had never ran a line in an official capacity. The rejection wasn’t well received by the county FA and I decided to walk away completely because I found it very difficult.

Will revisit reffing at youth level now I’ve stopped playing and coaching.
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refs on 12:20 - Dec 19 with 2025 viewsNorthernr

Would help to know which game we're referring to.

Mariner had a bit of a mad five minutes in the Leeds Arsenal game where Xhaka should have been booked twice in a minute and got nothing, and then Glehardt did exactly the same thing and did get booked immediately afterwards. Other than that he was fine.

Kavanagh in the Boro v Bournemouth game seemed to have missed the memo about meaningful contact - absolutely everything was a free kick, and every free kick was a yellow card. Very bizarre performance.
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refs on 14:08 - Dec 19 with 1898 viewsPinnerPaul

refs on 12:20 - Dec 19 by Northernr

Would help to know which game we're referring to.

Mariner had a bit of a mad five minutes in the Leeds Arsenal game where Xhaka should have been booked twice in a minute and got nothing, and then Glehardt did exactly the same thing and did get booked immediately afterwards. Other than that he was fine.

Kavanagh in the Boro v Bournemouth game seemed to have missed the memo about meaningful contact - absolutely everything was a free kick, and every free kick was a yellow card. Very bizarre performance.


Agree about Mariner

Didn't see 2nd match, but from what you describe, sounds the exact opposite to how we've seen games refereed since the Euros.

BTW for all - think referees need to aim to be a bit better than no ref at all!
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refs on 14:12 - Dec 19 with 1887 viewsPinnerPaul

refs on 12:17 - Dec 19 by Dixie_CT

That they would be better off without you?? Just joking 🙃

Fair play to anyone brave enough to ref. I did my six games to qualify and got selected for a county cup final line but my anxiety kicked in and I rejected it because I had never ran a line in an official capacity. The rejection wasn’t well received by the county FA and I decided to walk away completely because I found it very difficult.

Will revisit reffing at youth level now I’ve stopped playing and coaching.


Good for you if you do give it another go.

Trick is to find level/games/leagues that work for you.

No point doing it if you don't enjoy it - plus you won't be very good either if that's the case!

Even at entry level, or certainly after some games, its possible to get on decent games on the line, don't dismiss that as an option out of hand - better games, better facilities and its good to work as a 3 rather than on your own.

However as I say, just do whatever works for you, would be my advice.
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refs on 17:45 - Dec 19 with 1765 viewsdigswellhoop

they dont understand our league
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refs on 17:55 - Dec 19 with 1738 viewsPinnerPaul

refs on 17:45 - Dec 19 by digswellhoop

they dont understand our league


I assume you mean EPL referees.

Very unlikely as they have to referee at all levels, including the EFL, to get where they are today.
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refs on 18:14 - Dec 19 with 1721 viewsNorthernr

Would love to know how they've come to the conclusion that Kane's tackle isn't a red card and Robertson's is.

With that ridiculous Newcastle penalty decision, and Xhaka last night, it's been a very poor weekend for the refereeing/VAR combo.
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refs on 18:15 - Dec 19 with 1717 viewsStanisgod

Spuds v pool.
Kane, sliding completely out of control, studs up, takes bloke on the shin. Yellow no VAR
Robertson, goes in hard admittedly, kicks floor which makes his foot mis direct onto leg instead of ball.
VAR then red.

Joke.

It's being so happy that keeps me going.

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refs on 18:17 - Dec 19 with 1716 viewsNorthernr

refs on 18:15 - Dec 19 by Stanisgod

Spuds v pool.
Kane, sliding completely out of control, studs up, takes bloke on the shin. Yellow no VAR
Robertson, goes in hard admittedly, kicks floor which makes his foot mis direct onto leg instead of ball.
VAR then red.

Joke.


I think they're both red. But you can't reach different conclusions for them. It's either they're both red or neither are red. If the referee got one look at both and got it wrong I'd forgive, but to have video review and come to those decisions is so, so poor.
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refs on 18:57 - Dec 19 with 1647 viewsPaddyhoops

refs on 18:14 - Dec 19 by Northernr

Would love to know how they've come to the conclusion that Kane's tackle isn't a red card and Robertson's is.

With that ridiculous Newcastle penalty decision, and Xhaka last night, it's been a very poor weekend for the refereeing/VAR combo.


I think you'll find he(Kane) gets special dispensation for being "England's inspirational captain"
Bryan Robson regularly kicked lumps out players in his day and stayed on the field as well.
How it wasn't a sending off is beyond me. Studs up leg breaker!!
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refs on 18:58 - Dec 19 with 1642 viewsPaddyhoops

refs on 18:57 - Dec 19 by Paddyhoops

I think you'll find he(Kane) gets special dispensation for being "England's inspirational captain"
Bryan Robson regularly kicked lumps out players in his day and stayed on the field as well.
How it wasn't a sending off is beyond me. Studs up leg breaker!!


For balance Robertson deserve to go as well!
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refs on 18:59 - Dec 19 with 1639 viewsNorthernr

refs on 18:57 - Dec 19 by Paddyhoops

I think you'll find he(Kane) gets special dispensation for being "England's inspirational captain"
Bryan Robson regularly kicked lumps out players in his day and stayed on the field as well.
How it wasn't a sending off is beyond me. Studs up leg breaker!!


I used to think that about Shearer, who was every bit the nasty, aggressive, elbows out striker that Duncan Ferguson was (as you need to be, fair enough) but was constantly allowed away with it while others got away with it.

Very happy to see Justin Whittle stick one back on him at Grimsby one night and Mark Halsey ignore it.

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refs on 19:14 - Dec 19 with 1607 viewsNorthernr

A point we've raised before about referees who are in poor form (and referees definitely do go through form the same as players do) not being relegated, taken out of games, 'punished', possibly because there's nobody else, raised here. Chris Kavanagh, the referee who was dreadful at Middlesbrough yesterday, is the VAR official for Spurs today where he has, again, been awful.

Repeating same action and expecting different result...
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refs on 19:32 - Dec 19 with 1571 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

refs on 18:59 - Dec 19 by Northernr

I used to think that about Shearer, who was every bit the nasty, aggressive, elbows out striker that Duncan Ferguson was (as you need to be, fair enough) but was constantly allowed away with it while others got away with it.

Very happy to see Justin Whittle stick one back on him at Grimsby one night and Mark Halsey ignore it.



That's my memory of him too. I think I only saw him play once astgainst us (could be wrong) but we lost 1-0 at home so I think it was 1995. Very syndical player and all elbows. Good though...

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refs on 19:43 - Dec 19 with 1547 viewskernowhoop

refs on 19:32 - Dec 19 by CliveWilsonSaid

That's my memory of him too. I think I only saw him play once astgainst us (could be wrong) but we lost 1-0 at home so I think it was 1995. Very syndical player and all elbows. Good though...


A header at the School End?
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refs on 19:53 - Dec 19 with 1511 viewseastside_r

Am I the only person who thinks the Newcastle / Man City incident was definitely NOT a pen?

(Well me and the officials)
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refs on 20:10 - Dec 19 with 1482 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

refs on 19:43 - Dec 19 by kernowhoop

A header at the School End?


Yeh I think so. We played quite well but Shearer was the difference.

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refs on 20:41 - Dec 19 with 1398 viewshamptonhillhoop



Very committed player that Alan Shearer. I think he claimed after he was going for the ball.
I think he also claimed the England captain immunity card
[Post edited 19 Dec 2021 20:41]
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refs on 21:13 - Dec 19 with 1337 viewsNorthernr

refs on 19:53 - Dec 19 by eastside_r

Am I the only person who thinks the Newcastle / Man City incident was definitely NOT a pen?

(Well me and the officials)


I’m interested to know why you think that. Because if it’s not, it basically means once the ball has been cleared or dribbled away by a defender, the goalkeeper is then allowed to clean out any opponent left in the penalty area because “the ball’s gone”. Great fun for the goalkeepers no doubt, but nonsense in practice. An obvious penalty.
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refs on 21:22 - Dec 19 with 1319 viewseastside_r

refs on 21:13 - Dec 19 by Northernr

I’m interested to know why you think that. Because if it’s not, it basically means once the ball has been cleared or dribbled away by a defender, the goalkeeper is then allowed to clean out any opponent left in the penalty area because “the ball’s gone”. Great fun for the goalkeepers no doubt, but nonsense in practice. An obvious penalty.


Defender wins ball cleanly, there is then incidental contact between keeper and attacker, because of both’s momentum.

Goalkeepers should be allowed to go for the ball in ways that other players can’t in their area.
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refs on 21:48 - Dec 19 with 1263 viewsNorthernr

refs on 21:22 - Dec 19 by eastside_r

Defender wins ball cleanly, there is then incidental contact between keeper and attacker, because of both’s momentum.

Goalkeepers should be allowed to go for the ball in ways that other players can’t in their area.


Well like I say if that’s the case then goalkeepers are going to have a lot of fun.
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