| Gaffer on today's draw 21:29 - Aug 20 with 2495 views | bosh67 |
https://www.qpr.co.uk/videos/interviews/video-beale-reflects-on-rotherham-draw-2
Everything he says is bang on. I really think this will come right but I do wonder if the powers that be should have kept Charlie in the building for Mick to make the decision as to whether he stayed or not. I am sure it was a financial decision but I just get the feeling an older experienced head to have in the final third would have helped. Who knows. Not Mick's fault.
Keep the faith. It is going to take time and we need to give Mick and the team time. I can see more losses and then lift off to better things. |  |
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| Gaffer on today's draw on 01:37 - Aug 21 with 2294 views | Burnleyhoop |
I think the word he is looking for is “clinical”.
That old chestnut again. |  | | |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 02:47 - Aug 21 with 2258 views | nix |
I'm quite surprised if anyone would have kept Charlie after his performances in the back end of last season. I thought his attitude was poor and he was doing the opposite of giving a good impression to the younger players. Unlike Uncs for instance he looked very unfit. He could barely jump off the ground at all and couldn't run faster than treacle. He was lucky not to get sent off for kicking out at players at least once.
It was a massive disappointment and not the player that he was when he played for us the first time. Not just the speed and strength but he didn't seem wily and cute but really angry and cynical. I remember when he did his shoulder the first time but somehow played on and led the line for us and was magnificent. I don't know where that guy went. I'll admit when he first came back he was really encouraging Dykes and made a big effort but when our backs were against the wall this ebbed away, and he didn't seem to be urging him on or helping much at all. The sitting in the stands incident was a prime example.
I'll always have a fondness for him in the way he was the first time he played for us and I'd be delighted to welcome him back for Forever Rs but it would have been a very expensive mistake to keep him on this season in my view. Lee Wallace has been the best of the recent wily old pros. We haven't been able to get this right recently. Hendrick was a disaster. Stef hasn't been the arm round the shoulder or blood and guts type, although he does look very classy at times with his passing. CA as discussed got us through his loan period but was disappointing when our player. Gray was lazy as hell. What we'd do to have an Angel Rangel, Richard Dunne, Clint Hill or Shaun Derry now.
I have some hopes for our younger players more. Armstrong looks like he'd run through walls and both Roberts and Laird look up for it even though they're clearly not yet match fit yet. I can see signs that Dozzell is starting to listen, he did one very good quick pass forward and move into space yesterday that looked like he was listening to MB about not trying to over complicate things or be too negative. Chair was trying to put other players in yesterday, which was good to see. We're missing Amos and Richards who could put a bit of impetus late on in games for us.
Get this squad fit and we've got lots to enjoy. Get LD to score a couple of goals and I think we'd see a different player then. It's not coming off for him atm but he's still plugging away and working hard for the team. |  | | |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 02:56 - Aug 21 with 2251 views | PunteR |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 02:47 - Aug 21 by nix |
I'm quite surprised if anyone would have kept Charlie after his performances in the back end of last season. I thought his attitude was poor and he was doing the opposite of giving a good impression to the younger players. Unlike Uncs for instance he looked very unfit. He could barely jump off the ground at all and couldn't run faster than treacle. He was lucky not to get sent off for kicking out at players at least once.
It was a massive disappointment and not the player that he was when he played for us the first time. Not just the speed and strength but he didn't seem wily and cute but really angry and cynical. I remember when he did his shoulder the first time but somehow played on and led the line for us and was magnificent. I don't know where that guy went. I'll admit when he first came back he was really encouraging Dykes and made a big effort but when our backs were against the wall this ebbed away, and he didn't seem to be urging him on or helping much at all. The sitting in the stands incident was a prime example.
I'll always have a fondness for him in the way he was the first time he played for us and I'd be delighted to welcome him back for Forever Rs but it would have been a very expensive mistake to keep him on this season in my view. Lee Wallace has been the best of the recent wily old pros. We haven't been able to get this right recently. Hendrick was a disaster. Stef hasn't been the arm round the shoulder or blood and guts type, although he does look very classy at times with his passing. CA as discussed got us through his loan period but was disappointing when our player. Gray was lazy as hell. What we'd do to have an Angel Rangel, Richard Dunne, Clint Hill or Shaun Derry now.
I have some hopes for our younger players more. Armstrong looks like he'd run through walls and both Roberts and Laird look up for it even though they're clearly not yet match fit yet. I can see signs that Dozzell is starting to listen, he did one very good quick pass forward and move into space yesterday that looked like he was listening to MB about not trying to over complicate things or be too negative. Chair was trying to put other players in yesterday, which was good to see. We're missing Amos and Richards who could put a bit of impetus late on in games for us.
Get this squad fit and we've got lots to enjoy. Get LD to score a couple of goals and I think we'd see a different player then. It's not coming off for him atm but he's still plugging away and working hard for the team. |
Something wasn't right behind the scenes with Austin. He wasn't getting games. I don't think we used him properly. The main problem was his legs had gone and injuries caught up plus we couldn't supply him adequate balls in the box for him to do damage. I dunno. I think the signing of Gray put his nose out. Tbf to Gray his goal record wasn't bad plus he was more mobile. |  |
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| Gaffer on today's draw on 03:08 - Aug 21 with 2248 views | nix |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 02:56 - Aug 21 by PunteR |
Something wasn't right behind the scenes with Austin. He wasn't getting games. I don't think we used him properly. The main problem was his legs had gone and injuries caught up plus we couldn't supply him adequate balls in the box for him to do damage. I dunno. I think the signing of Gray put his nose out. Tbf to Gray his goal record wasn't bad plus he was more mobile. |
I guess that's my point though Punter, you don't want your older pros to get the hump, you want them to show an example and work hard or at least not stink out the dressing room. Gray was good at scoring goals but didn't do anything else and moaned at everyone all the time rather than encouraging people. That might have been just about ok if either had been cheap, but they clearly bust our budget too. | | | |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 04:57 - Aug 21 with 2192 views | strikerace |
Dykes, Stef and a few others were better with Austin here. I wonder why? Maybe his play was better than we thought "teamise", maybe he was like a player/coach, I really don't know. | | | |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 05:09 - Aug 21 with 2186 views | Lblock |
So when is it “going to click”?
When is the physio room going to miraculously empty?
I’m not so sure things will get better IF they get worse - do you think this squad has the mentality, the nouse or the minerals for that?
Step back and drink in the fact that v Rotherham…. bar one player… that was probably our best 11 that started the game.
Just sayin………. |  |
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| Gaffer on today's draw on 07:11 - Aug 21 with 2046 views | davman |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 02:56 - Aug 21 by PunteR |
Something wasn't right behind the scenes with Austin. He wasn't getting games. I don't think we used him properly. The main problem was his legs had gone and injuries caught up plus we couldn't supply him adequate balls in the box for him to do damage. I dunno. I think the signing of Gray put his nose out. Tbf to Gray his goal record wasn't bad plus he was more mobile. |
Maybe, but the basic truth was that he was crap last season. Didn't look fit, didn't look interested and, as nix said, was a petulant arse at times. Wouldn't have come cheap either - a big reason we're up against FFP now I'd imagine.
No thanks. |  |
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| Gaffer on today's draw on 07:49 - Aug 21 with 1956 views | PunteR |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 07:11 - Aug 21 by davman |
Maybe, but the basic truth was that he was crap last season. Didn't look fit, didn't look interested and, as nix said, was a petulant arse at times. Wouldn't have come cheap either - a big reason we're up against FFP now I'd imagine.
No thanks. |
I guess it was a similar situation to Ronaldo at Utd.
Austin was our best striker, if you spend big money on him then you have to utilise his ability.
He got the best out of Dykes that's for sure. | |
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| Gaffer on today's draw on 10:10 - Aug 21 with 1829 views | nix |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 05:09 - Aug 21 by Lblock |
So when is it “going to click”?
When is the physio room going to miraculously empty?
I’m not so sure things will get better IF they get worse - do you think this squad has the mentality, the nouse or the minerals for that?
Step back and drink in the fact that v Rotherham…. bar one player… that was probably our best 11 that started the game.
Just sayin………. |
Seriously not trying to get into a bun fight about this. You're entitled to your point of view, etc, etc. But, imagine going into a new job. Nearly immediately some of your best employees go on long term sick. You've got some new employees who have only just been trained and haven't done the job for long. You've been a supervisor but never managed a team. One of the team had made a few mistakes and lost confidence but was trying hard and was among the only ones able to do his particular job. Some of them have started working together to do the new processes you've put in place. Others have come back from sickness but aren't at full capacity. You've been providing a reasonable service just not the top of the range one. Some of your clients are patient, others are screaming at the board to sack you after a couple of weeks.
Would you really think it sensible for the Board to be sacking you when whoever came in is likely to have the same issue? And if they're not going to sack you what's the point in getting so irate about it?
It may well be our best team but they haven't all played together for more than five minutes. Some of them aren't match fit yet. They've got a new manager who's doing things slightly differently so our old players have to get used to that. Arguably we'd have Luke Amos and JCS in the team if they were available and play Richards for at least some of the match, if not as a starter. Especially in these kinds of more physical games you'd want your younger players not SJ and AA.
Even last season some of our worst performance were against the teams that closed us down and played on the break, like Peterborough (lost three times against them) or Barnsley. That's something we need to sort, agreed. But Warbs didn't really sort it in a whole season so it's a bit much to expect MB to sort it in five matches.
I don't know about the mentality of this team. I just think it's pointless writing them off and the manager so early on. After twenty matches if we're In the bottom three I'd think there's a conversation to be had. But if you want to say it every week from now, then obviously that's your prerogative. | | | |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 10:27 - Aug 21 with 1758 views | The_Beast1976 |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 10:10 - Aug 21 by nix |
Seriously not trying to get into a bun fight about this. You're entitled to your point of view, etc, etc. But, imagine going into a new job. Nearly immediately some of your best employees go on long term sick. You've got some new employees who have only just been trained and haven't done the job for long. You've been a supervisor but never managed a team. One of the team had made a few mistakes and lost confidence but was trying hard and was among the only ones able to do his particular job. Some of them have started working together to do the new processes you've put in place. Others have come back from sickness but aren't at full capacity. You've been providing a reasonable service just not the top of the range one. Some of your clients are patient, others are screaming at the board to sack you after a couple of weeks.
Would you really think it sensible for the Board to be sacking you when whoever came in is likely to have the same issue? And if they're not going to sack you what's the point in getting so irate about it?
It may well be our best team but they haven't all played together for more than five minutes. Some of them aren't match fit yet. They've got a new manager who's doing things slightly differently so our old players have to get used to that. Arguably we'd have Luke Amos and JCS in the team if they were available and play Richards for at least some of the match, if not as a starter. Especially in these kinds of more physical games you'd want your younger players not SJ and AA.
Even last season some of our worst performance were against the teams that closed us down and played on the break, like Peterborough (lost three times against them) or Barnsley. That's something we need to sort, agreed. But Warbs didn't really sort it in a whole season so it's a bit much to expect MB to sort it in five matches.
I don't know about the mentality of this team. I just think it's pointless writing them off and the manager so early on. After twenty matches if we're In the bottom three I'd think there's a conversation to be had. But if you want to say it every week from now, then obviously that's your prerogative. |
I think, given what's been done in the past, Beale must be given the whole season irrespective of what happens on the pitch. Can't believe some people are on his case already. What a joke. | | | |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 10:29 - Aug 21 with 1743 views | gazza1 |
Re Austin......he was 'outed', one because he was not delivering & two, I would suggest that he was costing too much. It was the right decision by the club to bring him here on loan, sign him and release him No issues whatsoever. I am more interested in who is replacing him.
Re the Gaffers comments.....hard to argue on what he says. LD should have scored from 12 yards whatever anyone thinks, Chair should have scored from 6 yards and Armstrong should have scored. Sadly, and am I am not picking on LD's, BUT if he scores in the 1st half and I think we win the game comfortably because it takes the pressure off the Team and we can relax and play. [Post edited 21 Aug 2022 10:40]
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| Gaffer on today's draw on 14:06 - Aug 21 with 1569 views | stanistheman |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 10:29 - Aug 21 by gazza1 |
Re Austin......he was 'outed', one because he was not delivering & two, I would suggest that he was costing too much. It was the right decision by the club to bring him here on loan, sign him and release him No issues whatsoever. I am more interested in who is replacing him.
Re the Gaffers comments.....hard to argue on what he says. LD should have scored from 12 yards whatever anyone thinks, Chair should have scored from 6 yards and Armstrong should have scored. Sadly, and am I am not picking on LD's, BUT if he scores in the 1st half and I think we win the game comfortably because it takes the pressure off the Team and we can relax and play. [Post edited 21 Aug 2022 10:40]
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Agree with this and if Dykes had scored against Blackpool we win that too.
However, Dykes missed those chances because he is what he is, a poor finisher.
Bonne might not be as physical, but he isn’t in Beale’s plans despite a better pre season, that to me makes no sense at all.
Get Bonne in the side and sell Dykes if possible. | | | |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 15:38 - Aug 21 with 1460 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 10:27 - Aug 21 by The_Beast1976 |
I think, given what's been done in the past, Beale must be given the whole season irrespective of what happens on the pitch. Can't believe some people are on his case already. What a joke. |
Sadly I can believe it - even expected it. This is what a section of our fanbase is like now, unfortunately. Requirements: immediate results, challenging for top 2, scoring tons of goals, never conceding any goal ever. This used to be the preserve of people like Matt Doran and a tiny percentage of the following. These days it's a growing band, sadly. |  |
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| Gaffer on today's draw on 17:00 - Aug 21 with 1341 views | Damo1962 |
| Gaffer on today's draw on 10:27 - Aug 21 by The_Beast1976 |
I think, given what's been done in the past, Beale must be given the whole season irrespective of what happens on the pitch. Can't believe some people are on his case already. What a joke. |
He should get the whole season...even if we do go down. Quick fixes don't work at QPR - we should know that by now. Anywhere above 20th...and he has done his job. | | | |
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