| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from 18:13 - Apr 7 with 3096 views | Jules4367 |
Nope- I am not going to stop !
One frickin shot on target, one ONE- the whole sodding game - ONE SHOT IN TARGET -!!!!
Someone somewhere tell me why ?!
Look at Huddersfield, Rotherham, Reading - they can score. we cant score because our stats game in game out are ONE FREAKING SHIT SHOT ON TARGET!!!
The local Long John Silver iX do better than that!
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| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:14 - Apr 7 with 3065 views | Damo1962 |
We have Dykes...so we are already handicapped. | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:19 - Apr 7 with 2996 views | stowmarketrange |
I don’t understand the like for like substitution of Dykes and Martin.We’re losing 2-0 and we’ve only had 1 shot.Why not go gung-ho and put 2 up front?I bet their defenders hardly broke into a sweat all afternoon. |  | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:23 - Apr 7 with 2980 views | baz_qpr |
We set up playing a flat back 7 leaving 3 against 7 or 8 in attack. that's why. It was the most tactically inept thing I've seen in years.
We would be better playing hump it and lump it to 2 big centre forwards than that.
Sorry I know he loves the club, knows the club etc but that set up with that team was criminal |  | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:30 - Apr 7 with 2930 views | ParkRoyalR |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:14 - Apr 7 by Damo1962 |
We have Dykes...so we are already handicapped. |
Is that the same Dykes who led the line when we were top of the table, is a regular starter for a decent Scotland team and who was probably our best player today (albeit a very low bar),
These are the things you see when you go to the games,
Pin our Fullbacks in and our creativity is down to SJ (who has neither the legs or desire to create) a not fully match fit Willock and an Ilias Chair who even his most ardent fans could'nt dispute his obsession with taking 3 touches too many delays + stifles our attack and who butchered our two best chances today due to this very fundamental flaw in his game.
But, oh, let's load up on Dykes. | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:44 - Apr 7 with 2811 views | stainrods_elbow |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:23 - Apr 7 by baz_qpr |
We set up playing a flat back 7 leaving 3 against 7 or 8 in attack. that's why. It was the most tactically inept thing I've seen in years.
We would be better playing hump it and lump it to 2 big centre forwards than that.
Sorry I know he loves the club, knows the club etc but that set up with that team was criminal |
Flat back 7? It was 3-4-1-2, with Paal and Laird as wing backs (supposedly). Unfortunately, Johansen was mostly crap all afternoon with hopeless delivery, Field is a screen not a playmaker, and the other two didn't push on. Willock and Chair accomplished precious little, the latter squandered our one golden chance, and Dykes is Dykes.
Watford seems like an aeon ago. I don't know now where this team, with this managment team, goes from here except through the trapdoor. |  |
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| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:50 - Apr 7 with 2799 views | Damo1962 |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:30 - Apr 7 by ParkRoyalR |
Is that the same Dykes who led the line when we were top of the table, is a regular starter for a decent Scotland team and who was probably our best player today (albeit a very low bar),
These are the things you see when you go to the games,
Pin our Fullbacks in and our creativity is down to SJ (who has neither the legs or desire to create) a not fully match fit Willock and an Ilias Chair who even his most ardent fans could'nt dispute his obsession with taking 3 touches too many delays + stifles our attack and who butchered our two best chances today due to this very fundamental flaw in his game.
But, oh, let's load up on Dykes. |
He doesn't score goals, and this is a thread about goals. I know you think he is the dogs, but I'm not sure what you expect your strikers to do. He just isn't capable of doing what his job description is...like the rest of them. I'll be amazed, if he is ever more than a striker who runs around a lot. Hopefully like the rest...he wont be here much longer. | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:52 - Apr 7 with 2796 views | StreathamRanger |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:23 - Apr 7 by baz_qpr |
We set up playing a flat back 7 leaving 3 against 7 or 8 in attack. that's why. It was the most tactically inept thing I've seen in years.
We would be better playing hump it and lump it to 2 big centre forwards than that.
Sorry I know he loves the club, knows the club etc but that set up with that team was criminal |
That flat back five really killed us. Dickie needs putting out of his misery. 3 crap centre Halfs is more of a hindrance than 2 crap centre Halfs. Not sure Ainsworth knows what to do though. | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:59 - Apr 7 with 2752 views | ParkRoyalR |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:50 - Apr 7 by Damo1962 |
He doesn't score goals, and this is a thread about goals. I know you think he is the dogs, but I'm not sure what you expect your strikers to do. He just isn't capable of doing what his job description is...like the rest of them. I'll be amazed, if he is ever more than a striker who runs around a lot. Hopefully like the rest...he wont be here much longer. |
So a player who rushed himself back from pneumonia and was 100% committed today, covering out of position wing-backs, winning headers, making early runs as we over-played taking too many touches, deserves such a snidey comment,
To answer the OP's question we need to open up the pitch quicker from central midfield, transition quicker and stop taking so many touches on the ball in the final third,
Bizarrely and contradicting myself in ways I would drop SJ, move Chair into his position, and play two up top with Willock + Richards as the 10's both of whom can shoot and move the ball quickly. | | | |
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| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 19:11 - Apr 7 with 2672 views | Damo1962 |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:59 - Apr 7 by ParkRoyalR |
So a player who rushed himself back from pneumonia and was 100% committed today, covering out of position wing-backs, winning headers, making early runs as we over-played taking too many touches, deserves such a snidey comment,
To answer the OP's question we need to open up the pitch quicker from central midfield, transition quicker and stop taking so many touches on the ball in the final third,
Bizarrely and contradicting myself in ways I would drop SJ, move Chair into his position, and play two up top with Willock + Richards as the 10's both of whom can shoot and move the ball quickly. |
What's snidey about anything I have stated. I am delighted that Lyndon Dykes the man has fully recovered from Pneumonia, I've had it myself...and it isn't pleasant. He is of course playing in the worst QPR side I have ever known at the moment, which isn't ideal, but I have never once questioned his attitude or commitment...I just think he is a poor striker. And yes, he shouldn't be doing others players jobs for them(that is an indictment on them). I have stated many times, that tactics and set-ups are not really my thing. I just want players to do the job they are well paid for. Is that too much to ask? | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 08:21 - Apr 8 with 2364 views | DTIG |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:59 - Apr 7 by ParkRoyalR |
So a player who rushed himself back from pneumonia and was 100% committed today, covering out of position wing-backs, winning headers, making early runs as we over-played taking too many touches, deserves such a snidey comment,
To answer the OP's question we need to open up the pitch quicker from central midfield, transition quicker and stop taking so many touches on the ball in the final third,
Bizarrely and contradicting myself in ways I would drop SJ, move Chair into his position, and play two up top with Willock + Richards as the 10's both of whom can shoot and move the ball quickly. |
One question for you. Does he EVER look like scoring a goal?
The answer is no. Nor does Martin. Nor does anyone else…but he’s paid to score goals and whether you like it or not it’s as simple as that.
I’d rather he didn’t run around covering wing backs or winning headers flicking it on to fkin nobody….I’d rather he was on the end of the flick ons running in behind and when, on the odd occasion that we do get the ball in box he would show some strength, desire and passion to bully someone out of the way, Alan Shearer style and get some part of his body onto the ball first and score fkin goals…..but he doesn’t. He doesn’t do any of the things that make good goal scorers what they are.
Nobody is questioning his effort and his recovery and desire to play puts lots of others to shame. I like him. I really wish he was better at doing what he’s supposed to ….but he’s just not a very good goal scorer and if you can’t see then I have no idea what you watch every week. And like I said, it’s not just him. We haven’t had one for years and we never seem to address that situation….ever.
Nothing snyde about anything that’s been said. [Post edited 8 Apr 2023 8:23]
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| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 08:37 - Apr 8 with 2281 views | gazza1 |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:30 - Apr 7 by ParkRoyalR |
Is that the same Dykes who led the line when we were top of the table, is a regular starter for a decent Scotland team and who was probably our best player today (albeit a very low bar),
These are the things you see when you go to the games,
Pin our Fullbacks in and our creativity is down to SJ (who has neither the legs or desire to create) a not fully match fit Willock and an Ilias Chair who even his most ardent fans could'nt dispute his obsession with taking 3 touches too many delays + stifles our attack and who butchered our two best chances today due to this very fundamental flaw in his game.
But, oh, let's load up on Dykes. |
Dykes is the best we got (just) but he is 'rank average'......and I am not going through all the reasons why.
Surely you recognise that he is not very good.
As for your comments about Scotland....they are very average indeed - most premiership teams would give them a beating and the top Championship teams too. | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 08:44 - Apr 8 with 2253 views | Headington |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:23 - Apr 7 by baz_qpr |
We set up playing a flat back 7 leaving 3 against 7 or 8 in attack. that's why. It was the most tactically inept thing I've seen in years.
We would be better playing hump it and lump it to 2 big centre forwards than that.
Sorry I know he loves the club, knows the club etc but that set up with that team was criminal |
It was meant to be 3-4-2-1 but you're right, effectively that's what it seemed like. Paal and Laird barely seemed to get forward and Johansen and Field were overrun in midfield. Chair and Willock were isolated and Dykes got no real support. When Beale had a similar squad he played 4-3-2-1 (or 4-3-3) and full backs were higher up pitch with 3 covering the midfield. Under Beale Dickie started on bench with Dunne and Balogun central defenders. But more importantly players knew what they were doing. The team is timid and it doesn't take much for them to roll over but at least play to their strengths. | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 11:18 - Apr 8 with 2176 views | ParkRoyalR |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 08:21 - Apr 8 by DTIG |
One question for you. Does he EVER look like scoring a goal?
The answer is no. Nor does Martin. Nor does anyone else…but he’s paid to score goals and whether you like it or not it’s as simple as that.
I’d rather he didn’t run around covering wing backs or winning headers flicking it on to fkin nobody….I’d rather he was on the end of the flick ons running in behind and when, on the odd occasion that we do get the ball in box he would show some strength, desire and passion to bully someone out of the way, Alan Shearer style and get some part of his body onto the ball first and score fkin goals…..but he doesn’t. He doesn’t do any of the things that make good goal scorers what they are.
Nobody is questioning his effort and his recovery and desire to play puts lots of others to shame. I like him. I really wish he was better at doing what he’s supposed to ….but he’s just not a very good goal scorer and if you can’t see then I have no idea what you watch every week. And like I said, it’s not just him. We haven’t had one for years and we never seem to address that situation….ever.
Nothing snyde about anything that’s been said. [Post edited 8 Apr 2023 8:23]
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Since his early season injury / loss of confidence and more importantly loss of Chris Willock to our attack, no, but arguably neither does anyone else.
I would add Dykes was bought for realistic money from Livingstone (where he was a 1 in 3 goal scoring 2nd striker / winger) presumably on basis Warburton saw him as a mobile target man who could lead the line and create the space for the 10's and Wingbacks to be the primary focus of our attack and goals (Dykes was not bought to primarily score goals), with Dykes hopefully contributing say 10-15 goals a season.
Some (maybe most) of our fans still fail to realise (or chose to ignore) this and compare him to a Clive Allen type Centre Forward which he is not and never will be.
Its almost like me coming on here every week after every game and lambasting Sam Field for not being a creative midfielder and having so few (if any) assists (or goals) to his game. He's not that type of player, was'nt bought to be that type of player, and never will be.
What I saw yesterday in first half hour was Dykes makes lots of runs in behind and getting no service, saw Laird out of position and run back three times to cover the space and probably prevent a cross (and likely goal the way we are defending) yet a poster comes on and says we are handicapped because of Dykes (imo a snide cheap comment having been at the game and not watched on a one angle stream)
Yet not one poster mentions our 2 glorious goal-scoring chances butchered by a player (great lad tho he is) who takes three touches too many and if he lifted his head up could have squared to Willock for a tap-in and we go 1-0 nil up, get the confidence boost as per Watford game and see the game out for the 3 points we desperately need, but no, lets load up on Dykes, 1 of probably only 6 totally committed players (alongside Dunne, field, Chair, Paal and Kakay).
If our attack is stymied by one single reason more than the many, I would argue Chair's inability to move the ball quicker is more important than most, as was our downfall yesterday.
Beale said he knew Chair was a good player but was'nt sure he could play in a winning team (or something very similar), now that is a very telling statement from a Coach with 20 years experience (and maybe just maybe why our attacking play is 'handicapped').
Which is why I would drop Chair deeper into midfield and play Richards as our 2nd 10 (on basis of a few decent brief cameo's to date, straw-clutching it may be) | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 11:42 - Apr 8 with 2148 views | bosh67 |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:19 - Apr 7 by stowmarketrange |
I don’t understand the like for like substitution of Dykes and Martin.We’re losing 2-0 and we’ve only had 1 shot.Why not go gung-ho and put 2 up front?I bet their defenders hardly broke into a sweat all afternoon. |
Because Dykes busted a lung and is actually playing because he wants to. But he can't get through 90 minutes or close to it and I'm actually surprised he's playing this season at all. Fair play to him. He's one of the few going out there and giving everything. |  |
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| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 11:52 - Apr 8 with 2129 views | vanrrrr |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:14 - Apr 7 by Damo1962 |
We have Dykes...so we are already handicapped. |
Dykes has his issues but I thought he was our one player yesterday who looked remotely Championship level…
did his job, worked hard, won a few flicks but we had literally no clue or plan as to what to do…nobody running past him etc. | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 12:01 - Apr 8 with 2079 views | OldPedro |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 11:52 - Apr 8 by vanrrrr |
Dykes has his issues but I thought he was our one player yesterday who looked remotely Championship level…
did his job, worked hard, won a few flicks but we had literally no clue or plan as to what to do…nobody running past him etc. |
And Dykes is a player that another Championship (Millwall) have offered to buy from us recently which means other clubs think he is a decent player at this level.
https://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/qpr-reject-offer-from-millwall-for-dykes
I don't recall reports of offers recently for any of our other players. |  |
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| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 12:13 - Apr 8 with 2029 views | stowmarketrange |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 11:42 - Apr 8 by bosh67 |
Because Dykes busted a lung and is actually playing because he wants to. But he can't get through 90 minutes or close to it and I'm actually surprised he's playing this season at all. Fair play to him. He's one of the few going out there and giving everything. |
I don’t dispute that he’d put in a good shift all afternoon with no reward,but his 80 minutes up front on his own hadn’t worked as we hardly had a shot.In my opinion he should’ve stayed on with the help of a 2nd striker to do the running for him.
Their centre backs might as well have been playing in sandals for all the work we made them do for 90+ minutes,and we could all see that nothing seemed to be working as we couldn’t hold the ball up front.It was time for desperate measures to try and get a goal back,but we just played the same way as before. | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 12:37 - Apr 8 with 1993 views | ParkRoyalR |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 12:13 - Apr 8 by stowmarketrange |
I don’t dispute that he’d put in a good shift all afternoon with no reward,but his 80 minutes up front on his own hadn’t worked as we hardly had a shot.In my opinion he should’ve stayed on with the help of a 2nd striker to do the running for him.
Their centre backs might as well have been playing in sandals for all the work we made them do for 90+ minutes,and we could all see that nothing seemed to be working as we couldn’t hold the ball up front.It was time for desperate measures to try and get a goal back,but we just played the same way as before. |
Totally agree, and this comes back to the Manager,
I am not sure what his Plan A was yesterday, but not being able to get out of our half for first half hour surely suggested we needed to change formation at Half Time and that playing a 2 man Midfield with an increasingly immobile Johansen is not going to cut it given our league position. | | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 09:58 - Apr 9 with 1836 views | DTIG |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 11:18 - Apr 8 by ParkRoyalR |
Since his early season injury / loss of confidence and more importantly loss of Chris Willock to our attack, no, but arguably neither does anyone else.
I would add Dykes was bought for realistic money from Livingstone (where he was a 1 in 3 goal scoring 2nd striker / winger) presumably on basis Warburton saw him as a mobile target man who could lead the line and create the space for the 10's and Wingbacks to be the primary focus of our attack and goals (Dykes was not bought to primarily score goals), with Dykes hopefully contributing say 10-15 goals a season.
Some (maybe most) of our fans still fail to realise (or chose to ignore) this and compare him to a Clive Allen type Centre Forward which he is not and never will be.
Its almost like me coming on here every week after every game and lambasting Sam Field for not being a creative midfielder and having so few (if any) assists (or goals) to his game. He's not that type of player, was'nt bought to be that type of player, and never will be.
What I saw yesterday in first half hour was Dykes makes lots of runs in behind and getting no service, saw Laird out of position and run back three times to cover the space and probably prevent a cross (and likely goal the way we are defending) yet a poster comes on and says we are handicapped because of Dykes (imo a snide cheap comment having been at the game and not watched on a one angle stream)
Yet not one poster mentions our 2 glorious goal-scoring chances butchered by a player (great lad tho he is) who takes three touches too many and if he lifted his head up could have squared to Willock for a tap-in and we go 1-0 nil up, get the confidence boost as per Watford game and see the game out for the 3 points we desperately need, but no, lets load up on Dykes, 1 of probably only 6 totally committed players (alongside Dunne, field, Chair, Paal and Kakay).
If our attack is stymied by one single reason more than the many, I would argue Chair's inability to move the ball quicker is more important than most, as was our downfall yesterday.
Beale said he knew Chair was a good player but was'nt sure he could play in a winning team (or something very similar), now that is a very telling statement from a Coach with 20 years experience (and maybe just maybe why our attacking play is 'handicapped').
Which is why I would drop Chair deeper into midfield and play Richards as our 2nd 10 (on basis of a few decent brief cameo's to date, straw-clutching it may be) |
I’d take 1 in 3 right now!!! 6 all season and 2 of those were penalties…so only 4 from open play in 34 games and 2 assists! They are dreadful stats!
Dieng wasn’t brought in to score goals and he’s only 3 behind Dykes in open play!
It’s not his fault he’s not that good at what he’s being asked to do, but come on, you can’t argue with someone who says we’re handicapped with having a striker that can’t score goals. It’s just a fact. And even bigger fact is that we’re handicapped by having an entire team that can’t score goals.
However, you’re not wrong….play a different way and we might get more out of him…..although at a strike rate of 1 in 8.25 then we’ll be waiting until next season. [Post edited 9 Apr 2023 10:03]
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| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 10:04 - Apr 9 with 1822 views | PeterHucker |
Dykes is not all that really, but he's one of the few whose effort & workrate is good. Despite his various limitations, he's fücking streets ahead of anyone else we have up front. A further illustration of why we're doing so badly. |  | | |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 13:26 - Apr 9 with 1735 views | Hooping_Mad |
| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 18:59 - Apr 7 by ParkRoyalR |
So a player who rushed himself back from pneumonia and was 100% committed today, covering out of position wing-backs, winning headers, making early runs as we over-played taking too many touches, deserves such a snidey comment,
To answer the OP's question we need to open up the pitch quicker from central midfield, transition quicker and stop taking so many touches on the ball in the final third,
Bizarrely and contradicting myself in ways I would drop SJ, move Chair into his position, and play two up top with Willock + Richards as the 10's both of whom can shoot and move the ball quickly. |
Willock and who?
Not trusted to tie his own laces yet. | |
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| One shot - wonders where a goal can come from on 15:02 - Apr 9 with 1675 views | baz_qpr |
Don't matter who you play as the 10's if you dont have any pace up top to push the opposition defence deeper and our midfield play on our centre backs toes because we apparently need two to shield 5 | | | |
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