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Am I the only one struggling to get excited about this. Suspect not.
Warbs, in interview, wanted to focus on the start of the league programme, so I'm expecting a scratch team and a typical QPR roll over and have their tummy tickled.
No Dykes, Thomas just back in training, Ramkilde gone missing. Oteh to score a perfect hat-trick?
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Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 19:01 - Sep 5 with 1567 views
Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 18:43 - Sep 5 by Myke
This shouldn't come as a surprise Brian,Warburton made his feelings clear regarding his priorities as soon as the fixture list came out. Our strongest team available bar two. One a defender who made no significant difference to our ability to defend last season. The other, a completely untried striker, from a league which we all accept is really poor. We have some decent players, but when a manager (A) sends out a message weeks before the game that he would prefer if we lost to ease our fixture congestion (before we kick a ball) and (B) shows not the slightest inclination to coach our players how to defend, then we are going to have issues. As pointed out elsewhere, we have lost the guts of 45 goals from Well/Eze/ Hugill. It's completely unreasonable to expect Dykes /Chair to pick up the slack. If they score 20 goals between them it will be a reasonable return. So one clear way to address this imbalance is to conceded less, like at least 15 goals less. Signing Dickie alone won't provide a magic solution, we tried every possible permutation with the personnel we had at our disposal , to no perceptible difference. They HAVE to be coached on how to defend or we can expect plenty goals conceded and difficult to see where goals are coming from
Ya, agree with most of that.
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Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 18:43 - Sep 5 by Myke
This shouldn't come as a surprise Brian,Warburton made his feelings clear regarding his priorities as soon as the fixture list came out. Our strongest team available bar two. One a defender who made no significant difference to our ability to defend last season. The other, a completely untried striker, from a league which we all accept is really poor. We have some decent players, but when a manager (A) sends out a message weeks before the game that he would prefer if we lost to ease our fixture congestion (before we kick a ball) and (B) shows not the slightest inclination to coach our players how to defend, then we are going to have issues. As pointed out elsewhere, we have lost the guts of 45 goals from Well/Eze/ Hugill. It's completely unreasonable to expect Dykes /Chair to pick up the slack. If they score 20 goals between them it will be a reasonable return. So one clear way to address this imbalance is to conceded less, like at least 15 goals less. Signing Dickie alone won't provide a magic solution, we tried every possible permutation with the personnel we had at our disposal , to no perceptible difference. They HAVE to be coached on how to defend or we can expect plenty goals conceded and difficult to see where goals are coming from
Relegation looms? We were lucky last season we had enough goals in the side to offset the SEVENTY-SIX goals we conceded. This could be a long, long season....unless Warburton can finally work out to make us defend. Today was a horror show.
Scooters, Tunes, Trainers and QPR.
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Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 22:49 - Sep 5 with 1316 views
Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 20:51 - Sep 5 by Northolt_Rs
Relegation looms? We were lucky last season we had enough goals in the side to offset the SEVENTY-SIX goals we conceded. This could be a long, long season....unless Warburton can finally work out to make us defend. Today was a horror show.
I'm not trying to spread doom and gloom before a ball is kicked, that would be ridiculous. We faced a similar situation last year after losing the goals of Freeman/Smith/Wells/Luongo and we more than compensated with Hugill, Wells returning for half a season and Eze stepping up. Today again proved that we can and will score goals from all over the park, but if you add in Hall's 4 and a couple from Pugh we are talking 50 goals less than last year and that is not taking into account Manning's four and Bright's 5, that brings us to 60 goals or 90% of our total amount of league goals. My main point is, even if we bring in a proven scorer on loan (another Wells/Hugill type) who hits between 15 and 20 goals - which would be extremely prolific - we are still well shy of last year. To me, it makes perfect sense to try and address this imbalance by reducing the number of goals we concede, especially as a significant portion of these goals were extremely preventable, with a little bit of coaching and defensive know how. No one is suggesting we should suddenly park the bus, it is not in Warburton's DNA anyway and we all enjoyed the high level of entertainment last season versus some of the dross served up previously. But it is not unreasonable, when a problem is glaringly obvious, to expect some sort of attempt to solve it, rather than burying your head in the sand and pretending the problem is that we don't score enough at the other end. Sadly, our performance today and Warburton's post match press conference indicates that the latter is still very much the case.
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Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 23:39 - Sep 5 with 1226 views
Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 15:36 - Sep 5 by Nov77
Can't agree with that at all, think it just shows how far we've sunk that we now don't just accept, but expect to lose these games.
if there is one thing the club has succeeded at is in lowering fans expectations so much that losing cup games no longer bothers (some of) us.
Good post, even seen people say they were happy for us to lose? The sole reason we exist is to win football matches. We're allegedly a professional sporting outfit.
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Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 09:29 - Sep 6 with 1068 views
Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 22:49 - Sep 5 by Myke
I'm not trying to spread doom and gloom before a ball is kicked, that would be ridiculous. We faced a similar situation last year after losing the goals of Freeman/Smith/Wells/Luongo and we more than compensated with Hugill, Wells returning for half a season and Eze stepping up. Today again proved that we can and will score goals from all over the park, but if you add in Hall's 4 and a couple from Pugh we are talking 50 goals less than last year and that is not taking into account Manning's four and Bright's 5, that brings us to 60 goals or 90% of our total amount of league goals. My main point is, even if we bring in a proven scorer on loan (another Wells/Hugill type) who hits between 15 and 20 goals - which would be extremely prolific - we are still well shy of last year. To me, it makes perfect sense to try and address this imbalance by reducing the number of goals we concede, especially as a significant portion of these goals were extremely preventable, with a little bit of coaching and defensive know how. No one is suggesting we should suddenly park the bus, it is not in Warburton's DNA anyway and we all enjoyed the high level of entertainment last season versus some of the dross served up previously. But it is not unreasonable, when a problem is glaringly obvious, to expect some sort of attempt to solve it, rather than burying your head in the sand and pretending the problem is that we don't score enough at the other end. Sadly, our performance today and Warburton's post match press conference indicates that the latter is still very much the case.
Nothing in Warburton’s resume suggests he knows how to build and coach an effective defence. He’s never done this at any club he has managed. He is a one trick pony but this season we don’t have the goals to get us out of jail. It’s a big worry.
Scooters, Tunes, Trainers and QPR.
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Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 10:30 - Sep 6 with 999 views
Carabao Cup - match thread 12:30 on 09:29 - Sep 6 by Northolt_Rs
Nothing in Warburton’s resume suggests he knows how to build and coach an effective defence. He’s never done this at any club he has managed. He is a one trick pony but this season we don’t have the goals to get us out of jail. It’s a big worry.
one-trick pony
I got pelters for saying that back in Jan/Feb.
The Keegan/ vindaloo approach only gets you so far., in the end, a poor tactical strategy.
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