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I really do not see anything in Dykes. Each week the commentary team moan about lack of service to him. But there always seems to be 5+ crosses into dangerous areas where there is no striker within 15 yards. He doesn't do hold up play well, he isn't good with his head, doesn't get on the end of crosses, he is not a poacher, he doesn't rip them into the top corner for 20 yards out, and he is not one for going on tricky runs and then slotting them in. What else does he bring to the team apart from being a good penalty taker?
What is the point of Dykes? Maybe Nick and Andy are right that he isn't getting good service, but if he isn't getting the right kind of service at this point in the season (and I have no idea what sort of service would suit a striker who likes to hide) then maybe he isn't right for our set-up
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 05:03 - Dec 20 by VancouverHoop
This is what we're so missing from Eze. He was the opposite. If anything he wasn't selfish enough.
Spot on. I know everyone rated him, but he was far better than we thought at the time because, it's clear now, he made everyone around him better. That's what great players do.
i actually think dykes will come good but WTF WTF WTF Fck this QPR nonsense
Tune...............
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 09:26 - Dec 20 with 1371 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 05:03 - Dec 20 by VancouverHoop
This is what we're so missing from Eze. He was the opposite. If anything he wasn't selfish enough.
Spot on. I know everyone rated him, but he was far better than we thought at the time because, it's clear now, he made everyone around him better. That's what great players do.
A thousand times this. But on top of that he's an upbeat, positive presence. I don't think we can underestimate the difference that makes when you're in a tough hole. We've got some lovely guys in the team but I can't really see any jokers, upbeat guys, mavericks. It's hard to keep positive when things are against you but someone who's irrepressibly cheerful, like Ebs,makes a lot of difference. It's like starting from scratch again each match rather than starting nervously on the back foot.
Unfortunately the manager or the assistant manager haven't got that either. Again they're nice guys, but they aren't going to jolly them along, buoy them with positivity or convince them that it's all fine. They just look like a team bereft of confidence and the manager looks nervous too. It's when your backs against the wall that you need a madcap Bircham, Holloway or Cook type to get them back up again. No one seems to be saying to them, just gamble, take a chance, make that run, try that pass, take out that guy who's making a dangerous run etc. They looked like a team desperate not to lose and that makes for a team desperately beatable. Or even a psychologist Steve Black type person, just to turn things round and bring a bit of cohesion. Otherwise we're sleepwalking into relegation.
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 09:45 - Dec 20 with 1348 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 09:26 - Dec 20 by nix
A thousand times this. But on top of that he's an upbeat, positive presence. I don't think we can underestimate the difference that makes when you're in a tough hole. We've got some lovely guys in the team but I can't really see any jokers, upbeat guys, mavericks. It's hard to keep positive when things are against you but someone who's irrepressibly cheerful, like Ebs,makes a lot of difference. It's like starting from scratch again each match rather than starting nervously on the back foot.
Unfortunately the manager or the assistant manager haven't got that either. Again they're nice guys, but they aren't going to jolly them along, buoy them with positivity or convince them that it's all fine. They just look like a team bereft of confidence and the manager looks nervous too. It's when your backs against the wall that you need a madcap Bircham, Holloway or Cook type to get them back up again. No one seems to be saying to them, just gamble, take a chance, make that run, try that pass, take out that guy who's making a dangerous run etc. They looked like a team desperate not to lose and that makes for a team desperately beatable. Or even a psychologist Steve Black type person, just to turn things round and bring a bit of cohesion. Otherwise we're sleepwalking into relegation.
Very good post Nix.
As we saw during the Mclaren year, good performances without the results soon evolve into bad performances without results. Confidence gradually drains away and everything that goes against you feels like a hammer blow. We need a character in or around the squad. Bircham would be a good shout to get the motivation levels up.
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 09:52 - Dec 20 with 1333 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 09:45 - Dec 20 by francisbowles
Very good post Nix.
As we saw during the Mclaren year, good performances without the results soon evolve into bad performances without results. Confidence gradually drains away and everything that goes against you feels like a hammer blow. We need a character in or around the squad. Bircham would be a good shout to get the motivation levels up.
Agree, there's no character is there. Even someone like Mackie who'll call the opposition a see u next Tuesday. I wouldn't want to be in the trenches with anyone from our squad.
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 09:54 - Dec 20 with 1316 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 09:26 - Dec 20 by nix
A thousand times this. But on top of that he's an upbeat, positive presence. I don't think we can underestimate the difference that makes when you're in a tough hole. We've got some lovely guys in the team but I can't really see any jokers, upbeat guys, mavericks. It's hard to keep positive when things are against you but someone who's irrepressibly cheerful, like Ebs,makes a lot of difference. It's like starting from scratch again each match rather than starting nervously on the back foot.
Unfortunately the manager or the assistant manager haven't got that either. Again they're nice guys, but they aren't going to jolly them along, buoy them with positivity or convince them that it's all fine. They just look like a team bereft of confidence and the manager looks nervous too. It's when your backs against the wall that you need a madcap Bircham, Holloway or Cook type to get them back up again. No one seems to be saying to them, just gamble, take a chance, make that run, try that pass, take out that guy who's making a dangerous run etc. They looked like a team desperate not to lose and that makes for a team desperately beatable. Or even a psychologist Steve Black type person, just to turn things round and bring a bit of cohesion. Otherwise we're sleepwalking into relegation.
Great post. Warburton is so dour....imagine working for him every day? Christ! His stats are just horrible. We have 1 win in 10. Our last 5 games have seen DDLDL.... thats not sleepwalking into relegation - its bang on relegation form and even more so if you look at our results as a collective since the lockdown started in March. Everything about this team looks wrong and Warburton seemingly has no clue how to change our fortunes....we have to make a change before it’s really too late. No way we can risk plunging into L1. I thought he was toast pretty much as soon as he came out with his ‘keyboard warriors’ insult. I think we Rs fans have been unbelievably patient for a long, long time....
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 09:55 - Dec 20 with 1317 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 09:45 - Dec 20 by francisbowles
Very good post Nix.
As we saw during the Mclaren year, good performances without the results soon evolve into bad performances without results. Confidence gradually drains away and everything that goes against you feels like a hammer blow. We need a character in or around the squad. Bircham would be a good shout to get the motivation levels up.
Yes that's exactly it. And Mackie isn't a bad shout either just to bring some positivity back. He never knowingly failed to chase someone down, put the last bit of his body on the line etc. Also Jordan was similar. We miss him too.
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 20:11 - Dec 19 by ParkRoyalR
But he does for Scotland - I think its more the type of support player around him that makes the difference rather than the quality of the opposition he's playing against - I said a few weeks back we need a mobile CDM on from the 65/70th minute (Bettache) I'd drop BOS as can't cross the ball, I'd play Adomah, LTC and Chair (on left) in a the 3, it's the best we've got available and see with that formation if we can create some more chances.
If not we change formation and hang out for some Premier League loan signings and / or Luongo in January!
For Scotland they get players close to him so he has someone to flick it onto or lay if off. Every game balls gets played upto Dykes, if he wins the header there is no one within 15 yards of him or getting beyond him for any flick on to work.
Hugil would struggle the way we are playing at the moment
WHoever plays up front has the nightmare of what to do when the ball goes wide. it will either be a shot, a high lofted cross you have no chance of getting or a cut back to the edge of the box. Comically whenever Dykes holds off his run to the edge of the box for a pull back the ball is crossed along the six yard box.
Wycombe yesterday created more clear cut chances than we've managed in weeks
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 10:31 - Dec 20 with 1242 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 10:28 - Dec 20 by daveB
For Scotland they get players close to him so he has someone to flick it onto or lay if off. Every game balls gets played upto Dykes, if he wins the header there is no one within 15 yards of him or getting beyond him for any flick on to work.
Hugil would struggle the way we are playing at the moment
WHoever plays up front has the nightmare of what to do when the ball goes wide. it will either be a shot, a high lofted cross you have no chance of getting or a cut back to the edge of the box. Comically whenever Dykes holds off his run to the edge of the box for a pull back the ball is crossed along the six yard box.
Wycombe yesterday created more clear cut chances than we've managed in weeks
Good analysis.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 10:07 - Dec 20 by nix
Yes that's exactly it. And Mackie isn't a bad shout either just to bring some positivity back. He never knowingly failed to chase someone down, put the last bit of his body on the line etc. Also Jordan was similar. We miss him too.
Or.....we could act like a professional football club and scour the world for a young up and coming manager like other clubs seem to do....
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 11:19 - Dec 20 with 1169 views
I'd definitely be signing a proven striker on loan in Jan and taking Dykes out of the team for a while. Since he's joined he'd have been in a constant cycle of play-recover-play-recover-play for Scotland-recover etc etc. He won't have had any proper coaching, he hasn't tried or been instructed to try anything different, for me he's playing back to goal too much and I'd want him running the channels more but it's difficult to work on this on the training ground at the moment.
Obviously he's getting little service at the moment, I thought I'd dig a bit deeper. According to whoscored.com BOS is putting in 0.2 crosses a game, so 1 cross every 5 games. I struggle to believe that's true but on the other hand it could be considering how poor and selfish BOS has been this season. It also seems that BOS only has 12 assists throughout his entire career! In comparison, Chair puts in 1.8 crosses per game and he's not even a winger. So overall Dykes only has a few crosses per game to feed off, and they may not be great quality, when crosses have been put in he's looked more dangerous (Brentford, a chance yesterday, the handball v Watford, the one off his toe vs Stoke) but we're not doing it enough, I'm still confident he'll come good.
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 12:07 - Dec 20 by MedwayR
I'd definitely be signing a proven striker on loan in Jan and taking Dykes out of the team for a while. Since he's joined he'd have been in a constant cycle of play-recover-play-recover-play for Scotland-recover etc etc. He won't have had any proper coaching, he hasn't tried or been instructed to try anything different, for me he's playing back to goal too much and I'd want him running the channels more but it's difficult to work on this on the training ground at the moment.
Obviously he's getting little service at the moment, I thought I'd dig a bit deeper. According to whoscored.com BOS is putting in 0.2 crosses a game, so 1 cross every 5 games. I struggle to believe that's true but on the other hand it could be considering how poor and selfish BOS has been this season. It also seems that BOS only has 12 assists throughout his entire career! In comparison, Chair puts in 1.8 crosses per game and he's not even a winger. So overall Dykes only has a few crosses per game to feed off, and they may not be great quality, when crosses have been put in he's looked more dangerous (Brentford, a chance yesterday, the handball v Watford, the one off his toe vs Stoke) but we're not doing it enough, I'm still confident he'll come good.
So which proven striker should we get in on loan? Proven strikers are worth their weight in gold so I doubt there’s too many of them available to buy at our level let alone get in on loan. That’s the problem.
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 12:27 - Dec 20 with 1090 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 12:13 - Dec 20 by Northolt_Rs
So which proven striker should we get in on loan? Proven strikers are worth their weight in gold so I doubt there’s too many of them available to buy at our level let alone get in on loan. That’s the problem.
No idea but we managed to find 2 of them last year so I'd hope we'd be able to get 1 for half a season.
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 09:26 - Dec 20 by nix
A thousand times this. But on top of that he's an upbeat, positive presence. I don't think we can underestimate the difference that makes when you're in a tough hole. We've got some lovely guys in the team but I can't really see any jokers, upbeat guys, mavericks. It's hard to keep positive when things are against you but someone who's irrepressibly cheerful, like Ebs,makes a lot of difference. It's like starting from scratch again each match rather than starting nervously on the back foot.
Unfortunately the manager or the assistant manager haven't got that either. Again they're nice guys, but they aren't going to jolly them along, buoy them with positivity or convince them that it's all fine. They just look like a team bereft of confidence and the manager looks nervous too. It's when your backs against the wall that you need a madcap Bircham, Holloway or Cook type to get them back up again. No one seems to be saying to them, just gamble, take a chance, make that run, try that pass, take out that guy who's making a dangerous run etc. They looked like a team desperate not to lose and that makes for a team desperately beatable. Or even a psychologist Steve Black type person, just to turn things round and bring a bit of cohesion. Otherwise we're sleepwalking into relegation.
Agree with your analysis on the whole atm Nix, one thing I was interested in was how quiet MW appears to be on his ice box. My recollection of last season was him very vocal and barking out instructions, hearing him even when a crowd in the ground, with the ground empty I thought we'd hear him constantly but it doesn't look like it's been the case? When you were at the game was it very quiet from the bench? I know someone compared us to Huddersfield (I think) and how flat our management were, is this to do with his knee issues and it's knocked him confidence wise?
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 13:14 - Dec 20 with 1042 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 12:32 - Dec 20 by karl
Agree with your analysis on the whole atm Nix, one thing I was interested in was how quiet MW appears to be on his ice box. My recollection of last season was him very vocal and barking out instructions, hearing him even when a crowd in the ground, with the ground empty I thought we'd hear him constantly but it doesn't look like it's been the case? When you were at the game was it very quiet from the bench? I know someone compared us to Huddersfield (I think) and how flat our management were, is this to do with his knee issues and it's knocked him confidence wise?
I was at the back of SAR for both matches, so it was impossible to see anything of the dugout or much of the line but I didn't hear any shouting or encouragement from the management team against Stoke. It's been a bit of a bugbear since Olly left really. McLaren didn't say much either. I really think it makes a difference, even with my son's u16 team, the teams with a really vocal manager seemed to have an edge. If you're not like that yourself, surely get someone in who's a bit gobby.
I'm not sure whether it's his knee. Maybe he's used to spending more time on the training pitch. Maybe it's that there's been a lot of pressure with so many new players to bed in, so many matches to play and the hassle around Manning and then BOS. But we do need some oomph which has been missing really since the Bristol City game.
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 13:21 - Dec 20 with 1025 views
Not going to write Dykes or Bonne off after less than half of a very difficult season. I've seen good things in both, but both need work. Dykes, if we play the right way, I'm convinced will be a good signing. Oddest quote on here was Dylan claiming Chair has been mostly woeful. One of the weirdest sentences I've ever seen on here, from anyone.
Bare bones.
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 13:38 - Dec 20 with 1005 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 13:21 - Dec 20 by Antti_Heinola
Not going to write Dykes or Bonne off after less than half of a very difficult season. I've seen good things in both, but both need work. Dykes, if we play the right way, I'm convinced will be a good signing. Oddest quote on here was Dylan claiming Chair has been mostly woeful. One of the weirdest sentences I've ever seen on here, from anyone.
I'm convinced too that Dykes can be a good player for us, if used correctly.
I think he needs coaching, but already shows football intelligence. I loved the moment yesterday when he was offside but realised it and did not go for the ball, allowing BOS to race through onto it, which could well have created a good chance for us if BOS had used it better.
I do worry about Bonne though. Chasing the ball that was going out for our throw near their corner stick and trying to pass it back down the line only to concede a throw to them, which led to their goal was footballing stupidity. I suppose the kindest view was that he was trying too hard to keep the attack going, but it was still a silly decision. Also it worries me the number of times he is caught offside. You would have thought that would have been coached out of him by now.
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 13:45 - Dec 20 with 982 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 13:14 - Dec 20 by nix
I was at the back of SAR for both matches, so it was impossible to see anything of the dugout or much of the line but I didn't hear any shouting or encouragement from the management team against Stoke. It's been a bit of a bugbear since Olly left really. McLaren didn't say much either. I really think it makes a difference, even with my son's u16 team, the teams with a really vocal manager seemed to have an edge. If you're not like that yourself, surely get someone in who's a bit gobby.
I'm not sure whether it's his knee. Maybe he's used to spending more time on the training pitch. Maybe it's that there's been a lot of pressure with so many new players to bed in, so many matches to play and the hassle around Manning and then BOS. But we do need some oomph which has been missing really since the Bristol City game.
We are far, far too quiet in and around the bench. The Bristol City match sounded like they had staff under the cameras in Ellerslie - there was barely a peep from us. Every decision was contested by those off the pitch, and it worked. It’s not nice to hear all the f’s and c’s but it is effective. I’m afraid we are a bit of a soft touch.
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 15:11 - Dec 20 with 909 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 13:14 - Dec 20 by nix
I was at the back of SAR for both matches, so it was impossible to see anything of the dugout or much of the line but I didn't hear any shouting or encouragement from the management team against Stoke. It's been a bit of a bugbear since Olly left really. McLaren didn't say much either. I really think it makes a difference, even with my son's u16 team, the teams with a really vocal manager seemed to have an edge. If you're not like that yourself, surely get someone in who's a bit gobby.
I'm not sure whether it's his knee. Maybe he's used to spending more time on the training pitch. Maybe it's that there's been a lot of pressure with so many new players to bed in, so many matches to play and the hassle around Manning and then BOS. But we do need some oomph which has been missing really since the Bristol City game.
Thanks Nix. I can agree with you about being vocal even at lower levels of the game. I find myself going quieter during games when you're up against it and it passes onto the confidence of the players, it's always a balance of keeping confident positive messages going onto the pitch when actually a bit flat yourself. Basically what we need now is that positivity, I always thought this was MW pacing up and down his area in constant dialogue with players and coaches, necessity has caused him to have to sit during the match but it's odd that no one is assigned with taking on that role. You'll find the players are quiet too when there's no lead from the sidelines and seems obvious that's the case as well since a number of the passing issues would get resolved with the team being more vocal
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 15:20 - Dec 20 with 895 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 13:14 - Dec 20 by nix
I was at the back of SAR for both matches, so it was impossible to see anything of the dugout or much of the line but I didn't hear any shouting or encouragement from the management team against Stoke. It's been a bit of a bugbear since Olly left really. McLaren didn't say much either. I really think it makes a difference, even with my son's u16 team, the teams with a really vocal manager seemed to have an edge. If you're not like that yourself, surely get someone in who's a bit gobby.
I'm not sure whether it's his knee. Maybe he's used to spending more time on the training pitch. Maybe it's that there's been a lot of pressure with so many new players to bed in, so many matches to play and the hassle around Manning and then BOS. But we do need some oomph which has been missing really since the Bristol City game.
We seem to have history with knees at our club. We had the unfortunate Richard Ord and more than our fair share of cruciate injuries. In addition, we had Redknapp now Warburton and the ongoing decision whether to take it or not!
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Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 16:26 - Dec 20 with 849 views
Dykes -- What Am I Missing on 12:07 - Dec 20 by MedwayR
I'd definitely be signing a proven striker on loan in Jan and taking Dykes out of the team for a while. Since he's joined he'd have been in a constant cycle of play-recover-play-recover-play for Scotland-recover etc etc. He won't have had any proper coaching, he hasn't tried or been instructed to try anything different, for me he's playing back to goal too much and I'd want him running the channels more but it's difficult to work on this on the training ground at the moment.
Obviously he's getting little service at the moment, I thought I'd dig a bit deeper. According to whoscored.com BOS is putting in 0.2 crosses a game, so 1 cross every 5 games. I struggle to believe that's true but on the other hand it could be considering how poor and selfish BOS has been this season. It also seems that BOS only has 12 assists throughout his entire career! In comparison, Chair puts in 1.8 crosses per game and he's not even a winger. So overall Dykes only has a few crosses per game to feed off, and they may not be great quality, when crosses have been put in he's looked more dangerous (Brentford, a chance yesterday, the handball v Watford, the one off his toe vs Stoke) but we're not doing it enough, I'm still confident he'll come good.
Strikers can’t make goals on their own. A top class striker will convert a high proportion of chances but how many chances does this team produce ? How many chances does Dykes get per match ? Not nearly enough I’d say.
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