| Hopes for the next 5 years 09:33 - May 18 with 6023 views | dmm |
I suspect this question may have been discussed before - my apologies if it's been done to death.
As we look toward next season I wondered what we might hope for over the next 5 years and more? I certainly fall into the 'It's more fun on the Championship' club, but accept the arguments against that view. We're in a professional and competitive sport and must look to achieve the best outcomes we possibly can. If we stay in the Championship as a really decent footballing side, I'd be happy, but nonetheless going further than that could be very exciting too.
With that in mind, I'd hope for promotion but using it to build the squad for a few yoyo years to try and establish ourselves in the PL. I'd also hope for the vast increase in income to be used toward a new stadium and continued development of the youth programme.
I guess the next question would then be, 'What next...'. But that's perhaps for another day. |  | | |  |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:09 - May 18 with 1289 views | E15Hoop |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 13:58 - May 18 by Antti_Heinola |
Always remember, he's not a contrarian!
Echo Brian's points, which are uniformly excellent. Community should be at the heart of this club (and all clubs, really). It is vitally important in myriad ways which will, in turn, help build towards success.
In terms of on the pitch, I would like to get a promotion again, but it's not the be all and end all for me. An entertaining side that tries to play attacking football and is challenging at the top end of the table - fantastic.
Have very little desire to see us in the Prem with the monstrous VAR. |
Let's be honest though, Antti. If we're going to keep the owners fully engaged at this club, we need to be in the Prem.
For all the "good egg" stuff that they do, they're businessmen at the end of the day. TF was sold a premier league dream by Tango and Cash originally. Fair play to the whole board for playing the long game, but at £1million a month loss, I think we'd all be looking for a return sooner rather than later! |  | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:16 - May 18 with 1268 views | gazza1 |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 13:58 - May 18 by Antti_Heinola |
Always remember, he's not a contrarian!
Echo Brian's points, which are uniformly excellent. Community should be at the heart of this club (and all clubs, really). It is vitally important in myriad ways which will, in turn, help build towards success.
In terms of on the pitch, I would like to get a promotion again, but it's not the be all and end all for me. An entertaining side that tries to play attacking football and is challenging at the top end of the table - fantastic.
Have very little desire to see us in the Prem with the monstrous VAR. |
So boring.......wants to get promotion but not that important. Challenging is enough, not for me, winning is most important. Looser!!! | | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:17 - May 18 with 1262 views | dutch |
I would like a complete rethink regarding Loftus Road, pledging our future here and redeveloping where possible to make it more viable. Good kids coming through, continued community excellence, and a few chances to beat Chelsea or Arsenal but not bothered about being in the premier or not. | | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:24 - May 18 with 1240 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:16 - May 18 by gazza1 |
So boring.......wants to get promotion but not that important. Challenging is enough, not for me, winning is most important. Looser!!! |
Well, at least I can spell 'loser'. |  |
| |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:26 - May 18 with 1236 views | gazza1 |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:17 - May 18 by dutch |
I would like a complete rethink regarding Loftus Road, pledging our future here and redeveloping where possible to make it more viable. Good kids coming through, continued community excellence, and a few chances to beat Chelsea or Arsenal but not bothered about being in the premier or not. |
Sadly Loftus Road is no longer fit for purpose unless you can redevelop it into a 25-30k max stadium with lots of pre & post match entertainment - corporate stuff. We will never be able to 'match' Chelsea or Arsenal or the like without money. Money is in the Premier. | | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:27 - May 18 with 1229 views | gazza1 |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:24 - May 18 by Antti_Heinola |
Well, at least I can spell 'loser'. |
 | | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:29 - May 18 with 1229 views | dutch |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:26 - May 18 by gazza1 |
Sadly Loftus Road is no longer fit for purpose unless you can redevelop it into a 25-30k max stadium with lots of pre & post match entertainment - corporate stuff. We will never be able to 'match' Chelsea or Arsenal or the like without money. Money is in the Premier. |
Then so be it. I would rather league 1 in our cave than premier somewhere in a soulless bowl at a bus stop in Park Royal or somewhere. Brentford's new stadium only has the same capacity as LR and we're always told what a well run club they are.
LR is not fit for purpose so make it so. Might not be able to make it much bigger, though I suspect a few thousand could be added with a redeveloped Loftus Road end, extend out SA Road and two tiers on the Ellerslie, but we could certainly make it more amenable. And a cup win or two against the filth is all I ask. [Post edited 18 May 2021 14:31]
| | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:33 - May 18 with 1220 views | gazza1 |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:29 - May 18 by dutch |
Then so be it. I would rather league 1 in our cave than premier somewhere in a soulless bowl at a bus stop in Park Royal or somewhere. Brentford's new stadium only has the same capacity as LR and we're always told what a well run club they are.
LR is not fit for purpose so make it so. Might not be able to make it much bigger, though I suspect a few thousand could be added with a redeveloped Loftus Road end, extend out SA Road and two tiers on the Ellerslie, but we could certainly make it more amenable. And a cup win or two against the filth is all I ask. [Post edited 18 May 2021 14:31]
|
I hope you are right about HQ because not sure moving would mean as much.....I doubt it though.
We need to be in the Premier to compete for sure.....we could not even beat Fulham's 2nd team this season. | | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:42 - May 18 with 1191 views | ted_hendrix |
Hopes for the next 5 years?
Win some--lose some--draw some, maybe sneak in a bit of a cup run.
Keep our heads above water.
Make the lower loft all standing and the lower school end.
With regard to the Premiership our last season in that particular pigsty of cash was probably the most disheartening experience for me supporting this club since 1958, I have no desire to return there none at all, It doesn't represent football--not for me it doesn't anyway.
Basically get a bit near the play offs now and then.
Then drive home after the final whistle along the M40 saying to meself 'Oh Well' |  |
| My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic. |
| |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:44 - May 18 with 1191 views | Boston |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 09:48 - May 18 by BrianMcCarthy |
Continued excellence from the club on community and ethics fronts.
Training Ground completed.
A united fanbase.
Continued player development.
Financial stability. |
Which United's fan base would you be interested in though, Manchester sized or a humble Southend ok? | |
| |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:45 - May 18 with 1187 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:09 - May 18 by E15Hoop |
Let's be honest though, Antti. If we're going to keep the owners fully engaged at this club, we need to be in the Prem.
For all the "good egg" stuff that they do, they're businessmen at the end of the day. TF was sold a premier league dream by Tango and Cash originally. Fair play to the whole board for playing the long game, but at £1million a month loss, I think we'd all be looking for a return sooner rather than later! |
Absolutely.
More talking about my own happiness watching the team than anything else. Of course I'd want promotion, but for me winning in this league is more pleasurable than losing in the prem. But, if we could push on one day and emulate Burnley / Palace and stay there sustainably for a few seasons, it would be nice. | |
| |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:52 - May 18 with 1170 views | Boston |
Premier of course, but I don't relish being one of that leagues whipping boy's. | |
| |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:01 - May 18 with 1160 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:45 - May 18 by Antti_Heinola |
Absolutely.
More talking about my own happiness watching the team than anything else. Of course I'd want promotion, but for me winning in this league is more pleasurable than losing in the prem. But, if we could push on one day and emulate Burnley / Palace and stay there sustainably for a few seasons, it would be nice. |
Agree with this.
And, to be honest, promotion will come if we hit the other standards of unity, player development and financial stability. Whether we like it or not. |  |
| |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:10 - May 18 with 1132 views | PBLOCK |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:29 - May 18 by dutch |
Then so be it. I would rather league 1 in our cave than premier somewhere in a soulless bowl at a bus stop in Park Royal or somewhere. Brentford's new stadium only has the same capacity as LR and we're always told what a well run club they are.
LR is not fit for purpose so make it so. Might not be able to make it much bigger, though I suspect a few thousand could be added with a redeveloped Loftus Road end, extend out SA Road and two tiers on the Ellerslie, but we could certainly make it more amenable. And a cup win or two against the filth is all I ask. [Post edited 18 May 2021 14:31]
|
Developing Loftus Road has been explored many times before and it just isn’t viable. Doubling Ellerslie Road wouldn’t happen because of the housing and extending South Africa Road can’t be done either
The one chance we had was when the land behind the school end was up for sale 20 plus years ago.
It’s Linford Christie or possibly out of W12 unfortunately | | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:16 - May 18 with 1123 views | HanwellHoopster |
Carry on what we're doing...but what I really want, however much you might laugh at this is a proper FA cup run!
Get the semis or quarters, beat a 'big' team or two on the way. That would be fun. Still can't quite believe we lost that Watford game and it was the best atmosphere I can remember at a cup game in ages. More please. | | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:33 - May 18 with 1084 views | simmo |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 13:46 - May 18 by gazza1 |
It is nothing personal and it is touching & sad without doubt but i don't really get myself involved, I'm not into renaming our stadium, BLM doesnt do it for me either, rallies against the country, and all that - not for me I'm afraid but each to their own. [Post edited 18 May 2021 13:47]
|
Even before the BLM/Grenfell national attention stuff that the club have been involved in, there was lot's of trying to help the community - going back since I was a kid. I used to go to some Saturday training days they'd arrange and let's not forget the annual Jack Tizard visits that were/are always beautiful to see.
More recently, just read a few of the recent testimonies from people that Andy Sinton, Andy Evans or others in his team have got in touch with for the R U OK initiative, or hear from that James lad who by his own admission would have ended his own life had it not been for the work and support of our community projects. Listen to Dave Thomas talk about his guide dog and how that's changed his life or from the parents of some of the Tiger Cub kids.
If things like taking a knee are not for you and the stuff on the pitch takes priority, that's cool - each to their own, but I find it odd for someone to see all of these examples and not take huge pride in them coming from your club and care about them enough to want them to continue. |  |
| ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead |
| |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:35 - May 18 with 1080 views | blacky200 |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 13:15 - May 18 by Match82 |
Five years of finishing seventh or losing in the play offs would be draining you say...
Hmmm, does that depend on whether we are also the best team that everybody plays that year and/or lead the league consistently in xG and passes per square centimetre? |
I agree to a certain extent but if we continuously finished 7th or 8th regardless of well we play how long would it be before the "he's taken us as far as he can" brigade starts. How many times have we seen that with the likes of Arsenal recently and Charlton under Curbishley many years ago. |  | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:36 - May 18 with 1079 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:16 - May 18 by HanwellHoopster |
Carry on what we're doing...but what I really want, however much you might laugh at this is a proper FA cup run!
Get the semis or quarters, beat a 'big' team or two on the way. That would be fun. Still can't quite believe we lost that Watford game and it was the best atmosphere I can remember at a cup game in ages. More please. |
"Carry on what we're doing...but what I really want, however much you might laugh at this is a proper FA cup run!"
Oh, I'm adding this to my list.
But it should be the following teams:
3rd Round: Chelsea (a)
4th Round: Chelsea (h)
5th Round: Chelsea (a)
6th Round: Chelsea (h)
Semi-Final: Chelsea in Barbados
Final: Chelsea at Wembley | |
| |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:45 - May 18 with 1054 views | gazza1 |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:33 - May 18 by simmo |
Even before the BLM/Grenfell national attention stuff that the club have been involved in, there was lot's of trying to help the community - going back since I was a kid. I used to go to some Saturday training days they'd arrange and let's not forget the annual Jack Tizard visits that were/are always beautiful to see.
More recently, just read a few of the recent testimonies from people that Andy Sinton, Andy Evans or others in his team have got in touch with for the R U OK initiative, or hear from that James lad who by his own admission would have ended his own life had it not been for the work and support of our community projects. Listen to Dave Thomas talk about his guide dog and how that's changed his life or from the parents of some of the Tiger Cub kids.
If things like taking a knee are not for you and the stuff on the pitch takes priority, that's cool - each to their own, but I find it odd for someone to see all of these examples and not take huge pride in them coming from your club and care about them enough to want them to continue. |
Simmo, you are right, we got a right decent club and some proper off the field guys but I just ain't into it all that type of stuff, i am football, players, managers, teams. etc. I am proud on what we do but it isn't my thing really. As far as renaming our stadium - shocking, not for me - sorry if it upsets people but thats it. This BLM and taking the knee drives me absolutely mad. [Post edited 18 May 2021 15:48]
| | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 16:11 - May 18 with 1005 views | rsonist |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:01 - May 18 by BrianMcCarthy |
Agree with this.
And, to be honest, promotion will come if we hit the other standards of unity, player development and financial stability. Whether we like it or not. |
Yep. Most advocacy you hear in the name of ambition amounts to taking potentially disastrous shortcuts over the path to the same destination we're already travelling.
There is - only arguably, mind - a point of maturity where it may seem there's as much to lose in failing as there is to gain by succeeding in promotion. We're nowhere near that place, and clubs that could be said to be there have been doing this twice, three times as long as we have.
The pot of gold the Prem offers may seem transformational but it's only this last compressed Covid season where it's appeared to guarantee the relegated sides an near-insurmountable competitive advantage. Before that, Burnley were the outliers in coming down to come back stronger - how many years did we consistently overrate Boro, Stoke, Cardiff, Huddersfield etc who instead sank in a swamp of big wages and hopelessly overlapping eras of bad buys and new managers while the parachute money slowly drained away? |  | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 16:12 - May 18 with 1002 views | Harbour |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 09:48 - May 18 by BrianMcCarthy |
Continued excellence from the club on community and ethics fronts.
Training Ground completed.
A united fanbase.
Continued player development.
Financial stability. |
Plus 1 agree with all of these Brian. Prem for a few seasons to make us financially secure ....I hate VAR so could not stand that all the time completely ruins the game. | | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 16:34 - May 18 with 965 views | colinallcars |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 16:12 - May 18 by Harbour |
Plus 1 agree with all of these Brian. Prem for a few seasons to make us financially secure ....I hate VAR so could not stand that all the time completely ruins the game. |
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, VAR is an abomination. But then again it could well be introduced in our division one day, then there'd be no escaping it.
It's often said that the game itself is just a part of the “matchday experience” and I can see the day when it could well end up being a relatively small part compared to meeting mates in the boozer pre and post match. I hope not. |  | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 16:37 - May 18 with 963 views | simmo |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 15:45 - May 18 by gazza1 |
Simmo, you are right, we got a right decent club and some proper off the field guys but I just ain't into it all that type of stuff, i am football, players, managers, teams. etc. I am proud on what we do but it isn't my thing really. As far as renaming our stadium - shocking, not for me - sorry if it upsets people but thats it. This BLM and taking the knee drives me absolutely mad. [Post edited 18 May 2021 15:48]
|
Fair enough Gaz, QPR can be whatever you want it to be to you personally and I think that's all good. For my own part I feel that as much as football is an escape from the 'real world', clubs were started from their communities and have a responsibility to be aware of the realities for the people that live in them.
Teams like Arsenal sh*t all over their N London fans because PR aside, they couldn't give a toss. They will happily price out their community and kick them out of their homes and businesses because they'd rather have a stadium of corporate hospitality anyway - to bump up their share prices. Maybe it's fanciful to suggest QPR and the owners feel otherwise, but I feel a lot more connected and part of my club than any of my friends or colleagues that support a 'big' team, and that's mostly due to QPR's view on community work and fan engagement. I wouldn't trade on the pitch success for that connection - there's no way it's worth it. When we started to move towards that kind of thing under Phil Beard, etc it was the worst it's been for me personally. It's OUR QPR, and for me, that's how it should be. | |
| ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead |
| |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 19:17 - May 18 with 901 views | dutch |
No. We can stay where we are and take the consequences. I'd rather that. | | | |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 20:41 - May 18 with 841 views | Harbour |
| Hopes for the next 5 years on 14:29 - May 18 by dutch |
Then so be it. I would rather league 1 in our cave than premier somewhere in a soulless bowl at a bus stop in Park Royal or somewhere. Brentford's new stadium only has the same capacity as LR and we're always told what a well run club they are.
LR is not fit for purpose so make it so. Might not be able to make it much bigger, though I suspect a few thousand could be added with a redeveloped Loftus Road end, extend out SA Road and two tiers on the Ellerslie, but we could certainly make it more amenable. And a cup win or two against the filth is all I ask. [Post edited 18 May 2021 14:31]
|
Can anyone see us moving out of LR in the next decade? The Linford Christie Stadium option looks very complicated with the land owners set up got a feeling that’s going down a blind alley. The soulless bowl out of town sounds more likely regrettably but will take years to find a suitable site and complete the build. I think we will be at LR fir at least another 10 years. | | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
