| Throw In 17:08 - Sep 18 with 3596 views | PinnerPaul |
Sorry, only of interest to a few.
Have now searched the IFAB archive and looked at throw in law, every 10 years back to the 1930s! 
Have to say the part about the feet has NEVER changed, always said part of each foot has to be on the touchline OR outside.
Now as with offside it may been taught/interpretated/read/remembered incorrectly, but it has never been illegal to have part/most of your feet on the fop.
Sorry for boring 98% of you!  |  | | |  |
| Throw In on 17:36 - Sep 18 with 2572 views | dmm |
So a player could have half an inch of each heel of his feet on the line and it's a legal throw in? |  | | |
| Throw In on 17:45 - Sep 18 with 2555 views | Boston |
| Throw In on 17:36 - Sep 18 by dmm |
So a player could have half an inch of each heel of his feet on the line and it's a legal throw in? |
No comprende Englaise? | |
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| Throw In on 18:01 - Sep 18 with 2531 views | QPR_John |
Can I change the subject Paul and ask why our free kick on 70 minutes was indirect. Chair seemed a little annoyed at the decision. | | | |
| Throw In on 18:38 - Sep 18 with 2456 views | dmm |
| Throw In on 17:45 - Sep 18 by Boston |
No comprende Englaise? |
Englaise? Is that an Americanism? | | | |
| Throw In on 21:43 - Sep 18 with 2286 views | terryb |
Cheers Paul.
That is a big surprise to me. I'd blame memory playing tricks on me, but it's actually very good about my past. The present is another matter! | | | |
| Throw In on 23:28 - Sep 18 with 2215 views | enfieldargh |
| Throw In on 17:36 - Sep 18 by dmm |
So a player could have half an inch of each heel of his feet on the line and it's a legal throw in? |
Doesnt seem right to me. If theres a line why cross it
So if pitch markings are so ambivalent why not allow a ball to be placed off centre of the penalty spot for pens. Different rules for different bits of white paint.
Also would love to see how many handballs by goalkeepers there would be when they drop kick out of the area. I sit almost in line with the penalty box line and often it looks like the ball is still in the keepers hand as he crosses the line before foot contact is made with the ball. |  |
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| Throw In on 02:15 - Sep 19 with 2164 views | DavieQPR |
Corners are the ones that get me. On the linesman side just a fraction of the ball has to be in line and from the other side just appearances will do.
As far as throw ins are concerned feet must be on or behind the line. So not over. Last change was 1920 which deemed you cannot be offside from a throw in. [Post edited 19 Sep 2022 2:24]
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| Throw In on 06:55 - Sep 19 with 2108 views | kernowhoop |
| Throw In on 23:28 - Sep 18 by enfieldargh |
Doesnt seem right to me. If theres a line why cross it
So if pitch markings are so ambivalent why not allow a ball to be placed off centre of the penalty spot for pens. Different rules for different bits of white paint.
Also would love to see how many handballs by goalkeepers there would be when they drop kick out of the area. I sit almost in line with the penalty box line and often it looks like the ball is still in the keepers hand as he crosses the line before foot contact is made with the ball. |
'Also would love to see how many handballs by goalkeepers there would be when they drop kick out of the area. I sit almost in line with the penalty box line and often it looks like the ball is still in the keepers hand as he crosses the line before foot contact is made with the ball.'
Agreed Enfield. That happens in nearly every game (not just QPR) that I watch, mostly on TV. | | | |
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| Throw In on 09:41 - Sep 19 with 1984 views | francisbowles |
Thanks Paul, it seems Davie has a different view. Perhaps you could post the wording of the throw in law. | | | |
| Throw In on 09:43 - Sep 19 with 1970 views | gazza1 |
Just do not get it any more......
When I played a foul throw re the touch line was ....... if you foot goes over the white line and onto the pitch then it was classed as a foul throw - end of!!! For safety most players kept their foot or feet behind the white line.
Not sure PP has explained it correctly but if he has then the rules have changed. [Post edited 19 Sep 2022 9:44]
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| Throw In on 09:50 - Sep 19 with 1962 views | terryb |
| Throw In on 09:41 - Sep 19 by francisbowles |
Thanks Paul, it seems Davie has a different view. Perhaps you could post the wording of the throw in law. |
I've copied this from the Laws of the Game. See the second part of the Proceedure.
"A throw-in is awarded to the opponents of the player who last touched the ball when the whole of the ball passes over the touchline, on the ground or in the air.
A goal cannot be scored directly from a throw-in:
if the ball enters the opponents’ goal — a goal kick is awarded
if the ball enters the thrower’s goal — a corner kick is awarded
1. Procedure
At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower must:
stand facing the field of play
have part of each foot on the touchline or on the ground outside the touchline
throw the ball with both hands from behind and over the head from the point where it left the field of play
All opponents must stand at least 2 m (2 yds) from the point on the touchline where the throw-in is to be taken.
The ball is in play when it enters the field of play. If the ball touches the ground before entering, the throw-in is retaken by the same team from the same position. If the throw-in is not taken correctly it is retaken by the opposing team.
If a player, while correctly taking a throw-in, deliberately throws the ball at an opponent in order to play the ball again but not in a careless or a reckless manner or using excessive force, the referee allows play to continue.
The thrower must not touch the ball again until it has touched another player.
2. Offences and sanctions
If, after the ball is in play, the thrower touches the ball again before it has touched another player an indirect free kick is awarded; if the thrower commits a handball offence:
a direct free kick is awarded
a penalty kick is awarded if the offence occurred inside the thrower’s penalty area unless the ball was handled by the defending team’s goalkeeper in which case an indirect free kick is awarded
"An opponent who unfairly distracts or impedes the thrower (including moving closer than 2 m (2 yds) to the place where the throw-in is to be taken) is cautioned for unsporting behaviour and if the throw-in has been taken an indirect free kick is awarded.
For any other offence the throw-in is taken by a player of the opposing team."
* I would have highlighted the line , but don't know how to on this platform! [Post edited 19 Sep 2022 10:01]
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| Throw In on 11:47 - Sep 19 with 1862 views | DavieQPR |
Hands up. It seems after re reading it Paul is right. | | | |
| Throw In on 12:55 - Sep 19 with 1817 views | Antti_Heinola |
i genuinely thought indirect free kicks other than for osffside had been junked ages ago? not sure where i got that from. Not really sure why the indirect FK should exist tbh. |  |
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| Throw In on 13:05 - Sep 19 with 1796 views | kensalriser |
Tbh I've never properly understood the distinction between direct and indirect free kicks.
Throw in law seems entirely logical to me and consistent with the law on where the ball can be placed for a corner, ie part of the ball has to be touching the line. |  |
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| Throw In on 14:57 - Sep 19 with 1745 views | Boston |
| Throw In on 06:55 - Sep 19 by kernowhoop |
'Also would love to see how many handballs by goalkeepers there would be when they drop kick out of the area. I sit almost in line with the penalty box line and often it looks like the ball is still in the keepers hand as he crosses the line before foot contact is made with the ball.'
Agreed Enfield. That happens in nearly every game (not just QPR) that I watch, mostly on TV. |
Couldn't agree more re goal keepers. I sit in B when in attendance and there's not a game goes by that they've not been guilty of this. | |
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| Throw In on 15:01 - Sep 19 with 1740 views | Boston |
| Throw In on 09:43 - Sep 19 by gazza1 |
Just do not get it any more......
When I played a foul throw re the touch line was ....... if you foot goes over the white line and onto the pitch then it was classed as a foul throw - end of!!! For safety most players kept their foot or feet behind the white line.
Not sure PP has explained it correctly but if he has then the rules have changed. [Post edited 19 Sep 2022 9:44]
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Coaches drummed staying back behind the line into you when you're a kid to reduce the risk of a foul throw. | |
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| Throw In on 17:49 - Sep 19 with 1632 views | PinnerPaul |
| Throw In on 17:36 - Sep 18 by dmm |
So a player could have half an inch of each heel of his feet on the line and it's a legal throw in? |
Yep! | | | |
| Throw In on 17:51 - Sep 19 with 1630 views | PinnerPaul |
| Throw In on 18:01 - Sep 18 by QPR_John |
Can I change the subject Paul and ask why our free kick on 70 minutes was indirect. Chair seemed a little annoyed at the decision. |
Mentioned in other threads, but the only reason could be, was because the referee thought no actual contact had been made, so therefore, it became playing in a dangerous manner, which IS an IDFK, if any sort of contact and foul given it has to be direct. | | | |
| Throw In on 17:54 - Sep 19 with 1620 views | PinnerPaul |
| Throw In on 21:43 - Sep 18 by terryb |
Cheers Paul.
That is a big surprise to me. I'd blame memory playing tricks on me, but it's actually very good about my past. The present is another matter! |
I don't blame your memory Terry, just one of those football myths that get taught I think.
I mentioned the phantom offside law change a few months back - its mentioned in black and white that players have to be interfering in some way going back forever, but as we both know, it was never interpreted that way right up until about 15/20 years ago.
Its like lots of qualified refs penalising "Leave it" or " Mine" shouts - but that's another thread....... | | | |
| Throw In on 17:57 - Sep 19 with 1619 views | PinnerPaul |
| Throw In on 23:28 - Sep 18 by enfieldargh |
Doesnt seem right to me. If theres a line why cross it
So if pitch markings are so ambivalent why not allow a ball to be placed off centre of the penalty spot for pens. Different rules for different bits of white paint.
Also would love to see how many handballs by goalkeepers there would be when they drop kick out of the area. I sit almost in line with the penalty box line and often it looks like the ball is still in the keepers hand as he crosses the line before foot contact is made with the ball. |
Bets way to think of it, and its actually mentioned in the laws, is that the lines are part of the pitch and the areas they define.
Like the other old favourite the corner arc, ball just has to be overhanging that by 1mm to be legal!
Foul/handball on the penalty area line is a penalty, ball has to be completley over the touchline for throw/GK/corner. | | | |
| Throw In on 17:59 - Sep 19 with 1617 views | PinnerPaul |
| Throw In on 02:15 - Sep 19 by DavieQPR |
Corners are the ones that get me. On the linesman side just a fraction of the ball has to be in line and from the other side just appearances will do.
As far as throw ins are concerned feet must be on or behind the line. So not over. Last change was 1920 which deemed you cannot be offside from a throw in. [Post edited 19 Sep 2022 2:24]
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You missed a vital word there - PART of each foot has to be on or behind the line!
Trust me and ALL the other refs/ARS - its NOT a foul throw! | | | |
| Throw In on 18:01 - Sep 19 with 1607 views | PinnerPaul |
| Throw In on 09:43 - Sep 19 by gazza1 |
Just do not get it any more......
When I played a foul throw re the touch line was ....... if you foot goes over the white line and onto the pitch then it was classed as a foul throw - end of!!! For safety most players kept their foot or feet behind the white line.
Not sure PP has explained it correctly but if he has then the rules have changed. [Post edited 19 Sep 2022 9:44]
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I have explained correctly and just 'proved' the law hasn't changed above.
The old laws going back to forever are available on line to check and the wording around feet has never changed, at least for the 90 years I went back! | | | |
| Throw In on 18:02 - Sep 19 with 1604 views | PinnerPaul |
| Throw In on 09:50 - Sep 19 by terryb |
I've copied this from the Laws of the Game. See the second part of the Proceedure.
"A throw-in is awarded to the opponents of the player who last touched the ball when the whole of the ball passes over the touchline, on the ground or in the air.
A goal cannot be scored directly from a throw-in:
if the ball enters the opponents’ goal — a goal kick is awarded
if the ball enters the thrower’s goal — a corner kick is awarded
1. Procedure
At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower must:
stand facing the field of play
have part of each foot on the touchline or on the ground outside the touchline
throw the ball with both hands from behind and over the head from the point where it left the field of play
All opponents must stand at least 2 m (2 yds) from the point on the touchline where the throw-in is to be taken.
The ball is in play when it enters the field of play. If the ball touches the ground before entering, the throw-in is retaken by the same team from the same position. If the throw-in is not taken correctly it is retaken by the opposing team.
If a player, while correctly taking a throw-in, deliberately throws the ball at an opponent in order to play the ball again but not in a careless or a reckless manner or using excessive force, the referee allows play to continue.
The thrower must not touch the ball again until it has touched another player.
2. Offences and sanctions
If, after the ball is in play, the thrower touches the ball again before it has touched another player an indirect free kick is awarded; if the thrower commits a handball offence:
a direct free kick is awarded
a penalty kick is awarded if the offence occurred inside the thrower’s penalty area unless the ball was handled by the defending team’s goalkeeper in which case an indirect free kick is awarded
"An opponent who unfairly distracts or impedes the thrower (including moving closer than 2 m (2 yds) to the place where the throw-in is to be taken) is cautioned for unsporting behaviour and if the throw-in has been taken an indirect free kick is awarded.
For any other offence the throw-in is taken by a player of the opposing team."
* I would have highlighted the line , but don't know how to on this platform! [Post edited 19 Sep 2022 10:01]
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Thanks Terry!
Davie - Sorry mate, posted my response before reading your 2nd one
Cheers both | | | |
| Throw In on 21:15 - Sep 19 with 1480 views | francisbowles |
| Throw In on 18:02 - Sep 19 by PinnerPaul |
Thanks Terry!
Davie - Sorry mate, posted my response before reading your 2nd one
Cheers both |
Thanks Paul
I think we are all clear now, we were interpreting/ had been taught the law incorrectly. | | | |
| Throw In on 21:49 - Sep 19 with 1456 views | LongsufferingR |
Great, that's all clear now. So if the thrower has both feet in the corner arc and the ball is overhanging the edge of the penalty area then an indirect free kick is awarded to the goalkeeper of the team who were in possession when a corner was given. Right? |  | | |
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