| The Irebougnam conundrum 19:45 - Jan 22 with 5817 views | mart_Goblin |
Firstly I recognise that Tim will be one hell of a player and I know he is still learning so this ain’t me digging him out . I only saw highlights of yesterday so he may well have been amazing , but once again he loses his runner and we concede . If you look back at goals conceded this season , even as far back as Birmingham away he is culpable of losing runners , not reacting quick enough or simply not getting his foot in. There are loads of them.
Now with Stefan on the way back should we now consider moving Tim up the pitch as he is much more effective there anyway . Of course it raises other questions but unfortunately he is a bit of a liability in our defensive third…but running at people looks a real player . Just food for thought |  | | |  |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 19:38 - Jan 23 with 1301 views | DannyPaddox |
The Irobougnam Conundrum (1968) was a cold-war spy thriller filmed on location in Hafnarfjörður, Catford, and Omsk. Michael Caine played Chippy Minton, an undercover lingerie-agent posing as a Scandinavian liquorice salesman. Nyree-Dawn Porter played the princess dentist Irina Clitova, and Robert Morley starred as the eponymous Irobougnam, a nude Olympic ice-skater down on his luck ready to sell his services to the highest bidder. Three of Morley’s stunt-doubles perished in the making of the controversial final scene - a naked ice-skating dash for freedom through the frosted streets of Catford. A young Peter Gabriel made a brief cameo appearance as a horse. Sadly no footage survives. |  | | |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 19:52 - Jan 23 with 1258 views | Dorse |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 19:38 - Jan 23 by DannyPaddox |
The Irobougnam Conundrum (1968) was a cold-war spy thriller filmed on location in Hafnarfjörður, Catford, and Omsk. Michael Caine played Chippy Minton, an undercover lingerie-agent posing as a Scandinavian liquorice salesman. Nyree-Dawn Porter played the princess dentist Irina Clitova, and Robert Morley starred as the eponymous Irobougnam, a nude Olympic ice-skater down on his luck ready to sell his services to the highest bidder. Three of Morley’s stunt-doubles perished in the making of the controversial final scene - a naked ice-skating dash for freedom through the frosted streets of Catford. A young Peter Gabriel made a brief cameo appearance as a horse. Sadly no footage survives. |
The musical scene, wherein he is stood in a snowdrift wearing nothing but a bobble hat singing 'Mother, It's Cold And I Can't Find My Underpants' deserves to be heard by a wider audience. |  |
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| The Irebougnam conundrum on 20:02 - Jan 23 with 1243 views | davman |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 07:21 - Jan 23 by 1JD |
Do the positives outweigh the negatives really? Not for me. He’s meant to be a defensive centre midfielder, but frequently loses runners which has ended up with several goals against. He has cost us. His main contribution to the side, despite he himself saying he likes to make tackles and work hard, is forward running. But his end product is poor. Doesn’t find the right pass despite dribbling round 2 or 3. And no goals or assists in 20 champ appearances. Not sure what kind of CM he is meant to be.
That said, he was much much better Saturday, making a series of good tackles, and working hard, but he was spent after 65-70 minutes as a result. If he plays like that regularly I’ll change my mind on him. But it’s the first I’ve seen of him having a bit of bite and work rate. Not sure Johansen is the answer either from a defensive point or view, under Warburton with him and Field as a CM two, we were wide open. Far superior on the ball than Tim, but like Tim also frequently loses runners and lacks the defensive side to his game. |
Exactly what I think. He looks a great player and looks effective, but ZERO goals and assists is really, really poor. No end product is the conclusion, which sums our team up no end. Yes, he is not alone in that with our Midfield, and that is one of the contributing factors to our mediocrity at best.
For all the hype, he has not contributed a single goal and probably has cost us a few goals at least.
So, looks good, but as useful as a chocolate teapot in the overall scheme of things.
Of course, he will be f**King brilliant for some one else, just like Dykes. |  |
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| The Irebougnam conundrum on 20:03 - Jan 23 with 1242 views | DannyPaddox |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 19:52 - Jan 23 by Dorse |
The musical scene, wherein he is stood in a snowdrift wearing nothing but a bobble hat singing 'Mother, It's Cold And I Can't Find My Underpants' deserves to be heard by a wider audience. |
”No polar bears were harmed in the making of this film” Robert Morley’s arse they weren’t. | | | |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 20:29 - Jan 23 with 1191 views | Beckenhamhoop |
He wound me up the most by far on Saturday. Doesn’t deserve to get picked in the starting 11. Team is crying out for Johansen. Although he put in a couple of good tackles, the truth is he’s a lazy footballer. I’d love to see the stats of who covers the most ground in a match because I see Timbo walking far, far too much for any player let alone a young man with his first taste of first team football trying to make it in the game. He doesn’t take up positions to receive the ball and it was immediately obvious he was losing his man who went onto score just like against Reading.
I keep hearing that he’s going to be a top, top footballer. They said the same about Joey Beauchamp and many others like him. I’m not at all convinced.
Drop him. |  | | |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 23:14 - Jan 23 with 1109 views | karlski |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 15:47 - Jan 23 by BAWHoops |
He's pointless (for us).
Developing at the expense of Dozell and Amos for absolutely zero long term gain to QPR.
He will play another 20 odd games for us and then we will never see him again and be left with 2 players a year older and no further in their development.
We aren't going up or down so I fail to see the point |
Spot on. If he was tearing up trees winning us game after game and driving us up the table, I could accept that short term positive against the long term negative of developing him for someone else. Or if he was ours, then yes I'd play him in rotation with some others. But he isn't. Would absolutely play Dozzell and Amos ahead of him (and obviously Johansen when fit).
I suppose the same argument could be made for any loan player starting ahead of a player we own - Laird being the prime example. But in that case he's so much better than the next option - Kakay, who I have a lot of time for, but is at best a Championship backup and always will be - that it makes sense to play him (just about - the more idealistic part of me wants us to give Kakay the run of games in the hope he kicks on into a 1st teamer for us or a sellable asset). | | | |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 23:17 - Jan 23 with 1103 views | karlski |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 19:38 - Jan 23 by DannyPaddox |
The Irobougnam Conundrum (1968) was a cold-war spy thriller filmed on location in Hafnarfjörður, Catford, and Omsk. Michael Caine played Chippy Minton, an undercover lingerie-agent posing as a Scandinavian liquorice salesman. Nyree-Dawn Porter played the princess dentist Irina Clitova, and Robert Morley starred as the eponymous Irobougnam, a nude Olympic ice-skater down on his luck ready to sell his services to the highest bidder. Three of Morley’s stunt-doubles perished in the making of the controversial final scene - a naked ice-skating dash for freedom through the frosted streets of Catford. A young Peter Gabriel made a brief cameo appearance as a horse. Sadly no footage survives. |
An up vote ins't enough reward for this. Superb  | | | |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 00:38 - Jan 24 with 1046 views | Spaghetti_Hoops |
No goals. No assists. A defensive liability.
He is a player for fans who like watching a show pony. Love the way he waltzes through the opponents midfield. But a limited pleasure.
He wouldn't be in my team and he is blocking our own players. | | | |
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| The Irebougnam conundrum on 07:31 - Jan 24 with 913 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
He has started an awful lot of games under both managers. There must be a clause in the loan agreement that says he must play.
I agree that it's poor that he doesn't have any assists or goals but is he really stopping anyone else from playing? Johansen and Amos have been injured for months and Dozzell has hardly stepped up when he's played. The centre of midfield has been a problem position for us for a while. | | | |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 07:35 - Jan 24 with 912 views | dmm |
Do player loan agreements really have clauses that stipulate a player must play if fit or be given a minimum number of games? If they do it's a hell of a gamble with an untested 19 year old. |  | | |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 07:50 - Jan 24 with 900 views | traininvain |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 07:31 - Jan 24 by Wegerles_Stairs |
He has started an awful lot of games under both managers. There must be a clause in the loan agreement that says he must play.
I agree that it's poor that he doesn't have any assists or goals but is he really stopping anyone else from playing? Johansen and Amos have been injured for months and Dozzell has hardly stepped up when he's played. The centre of midfield has been a problem position for us for a while. |
I think the second paragraph is the answer to your first paragraph and this thread in general. Dozzell hasn’t looked good enough when he’s played, Johansen has been injured for months and unfortunately Amos is rarely fit enough to play.
That leaves Tim who despite his shortcomings is available to play every week. Let’s not forget that last time Dozzell started ahead of Tim we lost 2-0 to Fleetwood. It’s not difficult to see why consecutive managers prefer Tim ahead of him. [Post edited 24 Jan 2023 7:52]
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| The Irebougnam conundrum on 08:11 - Jan 24 with 866 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 19:52 - Jan 23 by Dorse |
The musical scene, wherein he is stood in a snowdrift wearing nothing but a bobble hat singing 'Mother, It's Cold And I Can't Find My Underpants' deserves to be heard by a wider audience. |
That song was lined up to be the UK's entry for the 1968 Eurovision song contest.
We were defending the title following Sandie Shaw's win the previous year, and the Wilson government were determined to retain the crown.
However; the BBC literally got the willies a few months out, fearing the sight of Morley's schlong wouldn't go down well with foreign and eclisiastical types. Accordingly, to appeal to these sections, a suitabily clad Cliff Richards was brought in last minute to sing 'Congratulations'.
He lost by a point to Spain's Massiel, who it was alleged, flashed her poon at the Archbishop of Canterbury, whom promptly rang the British jury and demanded she get the full eight points. |  |
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| The Irebougnam conundrum on 08:25 - Jan 24 with 821 views | TheChef |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 20:02 - Jan 23 by davman |
Exactly what I think. He looks a great player and looks effective, but ZERO goals and assists is really, really poor. No end product is the conclusion, which sums our team up no end. Yes, he is not alone in that with our Midfield, and that is one of the contributing factors to our mediocrity at best.
For all the hype, he has not contributed a single goal and probably has cost us a few goals at least.
So, looks good, but as useful as a chocolate teapot in the overall scheme of things.
Of course, he will be f**King brilliant for some one else, just like Dykes. |
Hmmm yes good point re no goals or assists.
Should be out the side once Johansen is fit. |  |
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| The Irebougnam conundrum on 12:51 - Jan 24 with 726 views | DannyPaddox |
The original French movie posters are worth a small fortune | | | |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 13:07 - Jan 24 with 702 views | daveB |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 20:29 - Jan 23 by Beckenhamhoop |
He wound me up the most by far on Saturday. Doesn’t deserve to get picked in the starting 11. Team is crying out for Johansen. Although he put in a couple of good tackles, the truth is he’s a lazy footballer. I’d love to see the stats of who covers the most ground in a match because I see Timbo walking far, far too much for any player let alone a young man with his first taste of first team football trying to make it in the game. He doesn’t take up positions to receive the ball and it was immediately obvious he was losing his man who went onto score just like against Reading.
I keep hearing that he’s going to be a top, top footballer. They said the same about Joey Beauchamp and many others like him. I’m not at all convinced.
Drop him. |
If Johansen or Amos could get fit and manage to play 3 games in a week maybe we could drop him. |  | | |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 14:04 - Jan 24 with 656 views | ngbqpr |
| The Irebougnam conundrum on 13:07 - Jan 24 by daveB |
If Johansen or Amos could get fit and manage to play 3 games in a week maybe we could drop him. |
Maybe they could stay fit enough for a job share? |  |
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