| We need a Director of Football 09:19 - Apr 6 with 20006 views | Blue_Castello |
Now I can understand why combining the two jobs of CEO and DOF is a significant cost saving to the club and if you had the right person in the position with significant experience it could work. That person could set the overall strategy for the club ensure it is implemented and not have somebody else telling them to go in a different direction.
However we don't have an experienced CEO and we are paying the price, the issues with recruitment have been highlighted in previews and reports, the imbalance of the squad and the debatable purchases which appear to have been purely analytical driven.
We are currently competing against teams who understand the physicality of the Championship and if you can't match them then you are struggling before the kick off. It feels like the squads been put together by somebody sitting in front of a terminal looking at statistics and not trying to balance the needs of a squad that has to play sometimes 3 games in a week. The point was made by Kevin Gallen on the WLS podcast, the players from the overseas leagues do not have the same loading on the playing schedule and this can reflect in them not being so robust.
Surely enough time has been given to see if the cost saving would work with only one man in charge and we now need to bite the bullet and get a DOF before it's too late. It may not even cost the club a fortune, if we can find a Senior person who has experience of the Championship then they could be employed part time. It would be a difficult appointment to make because they have to work in harmony with the CEO but that's for the board to sort out.
There will possibly be cost savings with a reorganisation it happens in a lot of business when they are restructured, should we really be paying some bloke based in Dubai for consultancy.
Made me smile thinking of Uncle Neil coming back on a part time basis, I think his time has gone but he knew how to put a squad together, that's what we need somebody who understands the demands of the physicality of the Championship and we recruit players who are robust and less prone to injury.
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| We need a Director of Football on 12:48 - Apr 7 with 1797 views | peterlund_dk |
| We need a Director of Football on 12:39 - Apr 7 by SteveW6 |
Madsen signed a 3 year deal with a club renowned for their successful youth policy at 15 years old.
You can believe what you want but I would find it impossible to believe that Madsden wasn’t being touted as one-to-watch and Marti didn't make friends in Denmark.
If you're also watching matches in Denmark at the time Marti was and within the company he was keeping you know about him.
As I say, you can believe what you want.
Marti is more sinned against than sinner but he's not got everything right. [Post edited 7 Apr 12:40]
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I don't have any beliefs or opinions regarding the Cifuentes/Madsen link and transfer decision. I just wanted to throw a small fact into this discussion of beliefs and opinions. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 12:51 - Apr 7 with 1754 views | mart_Goblin |
| We need a Director of Football on 11:33 - Apr 7 by Padulas_Shampoo |
Is anyone else getting a whiff of the Paladini’s here?
Strange arguments, strange claims, strange time. |
Big whiff |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 12:52 - Apr 7 with 1745 views | lassel |
| We need a Director of Football on 12:33 - Apr 7 by SteveW6 |
Except we're not, are we.
We agree on everything else it seems but will have to accept that there's the cliche 'his truth' 'their truth' and 'The truth' and agree to disagree on this.
After all, some recollections may vary as HMQ said 👍 |
I mean absolutely, you are certainly within your rights to believe that Cifuentes fell madly in love with a young danish benchwarmer while managing in Norway, pushed the club to blow a huge fee (for us) on getting him in and then refused to use him. It’s just a bit of a stretch is all I’m saying… | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:02 - Apr 7 with 1680 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 12:52 - Apr 7 by lassel |
I mean absolutely, you are certainly within your rights to believe that Cifuentes fell madly in love with a young danish benchwarmer while managing in Norway, pushed the club to blow a huge fee (for us) on getting him in and then refused to use him. It’s just a bit of a stretch is all I’m saying… |
99% of the time it would be ludicrous, I agree...
Let's agree to disagree on this. There's a few amateur detectives on here who are alluding that they suspect I'm Nourry or a close associate and I wouldn't want them to waste their time on such nonsense...
We both want the right thing - the club to emerge as well as possible from this mess - but we're not going to convince each other or other posters on the point we disagree on... | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:02 - Apr 7 with 1678 views | Northernr |
| We need a Director of Football on 12:39 - Apr 7 by SteveW6 |
Madsen signed a 3 year deal with a club renowned for their successful youth policy at 15 years old.
You can believe what you want but I would find it impossible to believe that Madsden wasn’t being touted as one-to-watch and Marti didn't make friends in Denmark.
If you're also watching matches in Denmark at the time Marti was and within the company he was keeping you know about him.
As I say, you can believe what you want.
Marti is more sinned against than sinner but he's not got everything right. [Post edited 7 Apr 12:40]
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Not to engage in semantics but there's an ocean of difference between "I would find it impossible to believe" and "I know this happened". |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:08 - Apr 7 with 1611 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| We need a Director of Football on 12:52 - Apr 7 by lassel |
I mean absolutely, you are certainly within your rights to believe that Cifuentes fell madly in love with a young danish benchwarmer while managing in Norway, pushed the club to blow a huge fee (for us) on getting him in and then refused to use him. It’s just a bit of a stretch is all I’m saying… |
I would watch this film. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:45 - Apr 7 with 1513 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 12:28 - Apr 7 by lassel |
I like the idea that Cifuentes was spending his off time trekking from his home in Catalonia to Jutland to watch a Superliga bench warmer as much as the next guy, but as Norf says, we are getting into the realms of fantasy now. |
I forgot ask, did Marti leave the kids with the Girlfriend in Sweden due to Swedish school term dates not allowing them to be away for so long and disappear to Catalonia for the entire post season break or was it just for a few weeks?
How many weeks in-between Swedish seasons did he disappear for? | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:49 - Apr 7 with 1498 views | Monkey_Roots |
I really was optimistic about where the club was headed in the pre-season, which I put down to Nourry. We had got rid of a lot of dead wood from the development, reserve and fringes of the 1st team squad.
I was excited too by the signing of Verane, Saito and Dembele.
I like the push towards signing for the development squad too - forward thinking.
I was really quite up for Nourry, as I really didn't like Lee Hoos at all, and think we had come to the end of the road with Les as the DoF. We seemed to be heading for a more analytic approach - something a lot of us fans were clamouring for, and that was something most of us were very pleased about, I definitely was – this was a bold new direction for us.
I'm not an insider, I'm not in the know, I really struggle with the business and strategy side of football, and a lot of you seem to get it and can form opinions and come up with alternative solutions - fair enough, but there is an awful lot of revisionism (is that even a word?), and being wise after the event.The season hasn't panned out the way we wanted it to, and all of a sudden 'analytics' is a word to be scoffed at, and we need a proper DoF again?
Loads of midgets up front, not really taking into account the injuries to key forwards all at the same time. Smyth is crap, then he's exactly what we need. Chair is injured – 'oh no!', and then 'I think its Chair thats the problem'... Frey was wicked when he was cracking them in, now he's crap again. Lloyd was a breath of fresh air with all his running around and enthusiasm, closing down etc, now he's useless and needs a loan. Charlie Kelman was useless, got a loan, is absolutely smashing it now, and someone we'd be talking up as a possible solution to signing a lower league player who we could develop further... but he's still useless to most fans here... poor Charlie, if he doesn't get a gig back here, I hope he goes off somewhere and makes it, just to show some of you guys on here how much you really know about football.
We were crap before with a separate DoF and CEO, but now thats apparently what we need again - we are constantly looking for a scapegoat... not all signings pan out, they don't all work out, even if the strategy behind them looks good - sure, someone should be held responsible, and if thats Nourry, Belk, Les, Ruben or whoever, whatever - so be it, but I'd personally rather we didn't go mental and insist on a complete new direction once again because its had a rocky start.
We've started down a new pathway, i'd love us to stick with it for a while and see if it takes us somewhere in 5 years time, even if its painful for a year or two.
Nourry is definitely not perfect, there's a few things he could do better and different, but lets not start creating another 'Evil Les', please. |  | | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 14:26 - Apr 7 with 1422 views | Quite_Possibly_Ropey |
Superb post Monkey. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 15:11 - Apr 7 with 1345 views | connell10 |
Nourry, just a poor man's Richard Thompson. |  |
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| We need a Director of Football on 15:14 - Apr 7 with 1340 views | ed_83 |
I agree with Monkey's post too, and actually think it reflects something Clive's been saying for a while. Whatever Marti / Nourry / Belk have got right or wrong this season, and whatever Ainsworth / Beale / Hoos /Ferdinand etc did previously, we always end up reverting to the mean, because there's something fundamentally wrong with the club at a much deeper level.
We change players, manager, coaches, even the CEO: we're still soft as sht on the pitch, and still far too prone to cutting corners off it. Nicolas Madsen being rubbish isn't the problem, it's that the whole way QPR is run guarantees that we end up with rubbish on the pitch sooner or later.
This ultimately comes from the owners who, as generous and well-meaning as they are, don't know what they're doing, which then trickles down to everyone else. You don't understand how the day-to-day work of a physio affects the team, so you let your head physio move to Dubai, so half the team ends up with muscle injuries. Everyone else sees that, and realises (even if only subconsciously) that they can fck up and get away with it as long as they talk a good game.
If a club like ours wants to be competitive, it needs players, management, staff and supporters to run through walls. Far too few people inside the club are meeting that standard, or demanding the people around them meet it too. Until that changes, it doesn't really matter who the manager, the CEO or the centre forward is, and turning them into scapegoats won't help. [Post edited 7 Apr 15:16]
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| We need a Director of Football on 15:19 - Apr 7 with 1331 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 15:11 - Apr 7 by connell10 |
Nourry, just a poor man's Richard Thompson. |
Nourry is part fantasist, part bullshitter.
Richard Thompson kept a mid-sized club in the black, allowed managers to decide who they wanted to bring in (within budget constraints) and only made 2 wrong decisions in his tenure as QPR chairman: approaching Rodney to be DoF and giving Wilkins carte blance to spend £5.4m.
We have spent 23 seasons as a top flight and Thompson was Chairman for 7.
They're not the slightest bit alike to be fair. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 15:30 - Apr 7 with 1272 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 15:19 - Apr 7 by SteveW6 |
Nourry is part fantasist, part bullshitter.
Richard Thompson kept a mid-sized club in the black, allowed managers to decide who they wanted to bring in (within budget constraints) and only made 2 wrong decisions in his tenure as QPR chairman: approaching Rodney to be DoF and giving Wilkins carte blance to spend £5.4m.
We have spent 23 seasons as a top flight and Thompson was Chairman for 7.
They're not the slightest bit alike to be fair. |
football has changed a lot since thompson was in charge and he was also guilty , i dont trust nourry atall havent trusted him since he arrived , wont answer a question when asked seems like he is the only man who can talk at the club keeps marti lokce away from talking to anyone , if we stay up this season i fear what lower foreign league players he will want to bring in to replace the back four an half the midfield , in the summer , his recruitment is poor he has taken the remit of buying cheap to sell on way to importantly , u cant blood hald a team with players who have no iea about this league , an expect them to do well an flourish , that saleabe player wuickly becomes casnnon fooder for opponents an it never seen again . |  |
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| We need a Director of Football on 15:42 - Apr 7 with 1233 views | KensalT |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:49 - Apr 7 by Monkey_Roots |
I really was optimistic about where the club was headed in the pre-season, which I put down to Nourry. We had got rid of a lot of dead wood from the development, reserve and fringes of the 1st team squad.
I was excited too by the signing of Verane, Saito and Dembele.
I like the push towards signing for the development squad too - forward thinking.
I was really quite up for Nourry, as I really didn't like Lee Hoos at all, and think we had come to the end of the road with Les as the DoF. We seemed to be heading for a more analytic approach - something a lot of us fans were clamouring for, and that was something most of us were very pleased about, I definitely was – this was a bold new direction for us.
I'm not an insider, I'm not in the know, I really struggle with the business and strategy side of football, and a lot of you seem to get it and can form opinions and come up with alternative solutions - fair enough, but there is an awful lot of revisionism (is that even a word?), and being wise after the event.The season hasn't panned out the way we wanted it to, and all of a sudden 'analytics' is a word to be scoffed at, and we need a proper DoF again?
Loads of midgets up front, not really taking into account the injuries to key forwards all at the same time. Smyth is crap, then he's exactly what we need. Chair is injured – 'oh no!', and then 'I think its Chair thats the problem'... Frey was wicked when he was cracking them in, now he's crap again. Lloyd was a breath of fresh air with all his running around and enthusiasm, closing down etc, now he's useless and needs a loan. Charlie Kelman was useless, got a loan, is absolutely smashing it now, and someone we'd be talking up as a possible solution to signing a lower league player who we could develop further... but he's still useless to most fans here... poor Charlie, if he doesn't get a gig back here, I hope he goes off somewhere and makes it, just to show some of you guys on here how much you really know about football.
We were crap before with a separate DoF and CEO, but now thats apparently what we need again - we are constantly looking for a scapegoat... not all signings pan out, they don't all work out, even if the strategy behind them looks good - sure, someone should be held responsible, and if thats Nourry, Belk, Les, Ruben or whoever, whatever - so be it, but I'd personally rather we didn't go mental and insist on a complete new direction once again because its had a rocky start.
We've started down a new pathway, i'd love us to stick with it for a while and see if it takes us somewhere in 5 years time, even if its painful for a year or two.
Nourry is definitely not perfect, there's a few things he could do better and different, but lets not start creating another 'Evil Les', please. |
Great post.
There's a lot in there to agree with.
Full disclosure - I have worked in data analytics. But never in a sporting context. And I have no connections or inside sources at the club.
As you would expect I am generally pro the use of data. But at the same time I am wary of the limitations of data and the tendency for some to become a bit too reliant on their data, their modelling, or over-confident in their findings.
A good data analyst should be able to find good quality data, know how to clean it, join it with additional data if needed, draw some conclusions (usually the ones you've been told to find!), and then put it all into some shiny presentations to fascinate the idiots who will be making the decisions.
What none of that does is make the data analyst an expert in the area the data relates to. I might be working on football data today, but that doesn't make me a football expert. Tomorrow I could be using the exact same skills on sales data, the day after procurement, etc. And none of that will make me an expert in those areas.
To use a simple analogy I could be a master butcher and know how to slice and dice any cut of meat you put in front of me. But none of that knowledge makes me Gordon effin' Ramsay.
The point I'm making is that data is a potentially great resource but you still need to work with experts to get the most out of it. In football's case that's the coaches, the scouts (remember them), the players, etc.
Above all else, data analytics is not an excuse to forget simple common sense.
In the summer we sold Lyndon Dykes and Sinclair Armstrong, and we also allowed Charlie Kelman to go out on loan. Those deals undoubtedly brought in good money but left us with only two senior strikers for the season, one of those had hardly played the previous twelve months and the other had never played in this country (a fact which was also true of most of our other summer signings!)
In hindsight was that really good decision making?
Whatever you might think of Lyndon Dykes we could certainly use him now.
None of what I just said is new. Mark Warburton made the same points when he spoke to Hoopsa a few months back. And a few days later Brighton announced that they were cutting back on scouting and would rely more on data in future:
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/brighton-sackings-shockwaves-scouting-3436590
Brighton have certainly had a lot of recruitment success up to now. But that was based on a combination of scouting and data.
It will be interesting to see if Brighton can maintain the same level of recruitment in the future. [Post edited 7 Apr 16:17]
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| We need a Director of Football on 15:52 - Apr 7 with 1203 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 15:30 - Apr 7 by wombat |
football has changed a lot since thompson was in charge and he was also guilty , i dont trust nourry atall havent trusted him since he arrived , wont answer a question when asked seems like he is the only man who can talk at the club keeps marti lokce away from talking to anyone , if we stay up this season i fear what lower foreign league players he will want to bring in to replace the back four an half the midfield , in the summer , his recruitment is poor he has taken the remit of buying cheap to sell on way to importantly , u cant blood hald a team with players who have no iea about this league , an expect them to do well an flourish , that saleabe player wuickly becomes casnnon fooder for opponents an it never seen again . |
What was Thompson guilty of?
Ensuring we didn't spend beyond our means and keeping us in the black?
Not wasting his own personal money to chase your dreams?
Our greatest ever side was full of internationals and never won a trophy, do you realise how far behind we really are the 'big boys' and how our greatest hope ever is a one-off cup win?
The Thompson Out protests were, in hindsight, the start of the demise and how typically QPR they were.
You are spot on about Nourry though. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 16:19 - Apr 7 with 1139 views | TK1 |
| We need a Director of Football on 15:52 - Apr 7 by SteveW6 |
What was Thompson guilty of?
Ensuring we didn't spend beyond our means and keeping us in the black?
Not wasting his own personal money to chase your dreams?
Our greatest ever side was full of internationals and never won a trophy, do you realise how far behind we really are the 'big boys' and how our greatest hope ever is a one-off cup win?
The Thompson Out protests were, in hindsight, the start of the demise and how typically QPR they were.
You are spot on about Nourry though. |
I totally agree with this analysis of Richard Thompson (and the contrast with Nourry is as you say stark), but the only other person I've ever read this opinion from is David McIntyre.
So I don't in fact think you're a club employee. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 16:21 - Apr 7 with 1124 views | wombat |
| We need a Director of Football on 15:52 - Apr 7 by SteveW6 |
What was Thompson guilty of?
Ensuring we didn't spend beyond our means and keeping us in the black?
Not wasting his own personal money to chase your dreams?
Our greatest ever side was full of internationals and never won a trophy, do you realise how far behind we really are the 'big boys' and how our greatest hope ever is a one-off cup win?
The Thompson Out protests were, in hindsight, the start of the demise and how typically QPR they were.
You are spot on about Nourry though. |
think it was his dads money that thomson had not his own for a start , lol yeah im well aware of how far behinwe are thanks been coming to games since 1970 thanks , and your point is ? your coming across as billy big bollox to be honest mate , most if not all of us are well aware of whats going on an whats gone on in the previous years uner thompson wright bulstrode and fernandez thanks.
the comment chasing my Dreams funny thought as a football fan thats all our dreams !
least we can agree with the nourry comments though i say its time for him an bleks have to sit down with the owners and give a etaile report on why the recruitment this season an the absent fitness guru has been a total cock up from start to finish . | |
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| We need a Director of Football on 16:37 - Apr 7 with 1073 views | lassel |
| We need a Director of Football on 13:45 - Apr 7 by SteveW6 |
I forgot ask, did Marti leave the kids with the Girlfriend in Sweden due to Swedish school term dates not allowing them to be away for so long and disappear to Catalonia for the entire post season break or was it just for a few weeks?
How many weeks in-between Swedish seasons did he disappear for? |
Apologies for the slow reply Steve, I have my own 4 month old to wrangle! Whilst it feels rather weird to be discussing the managers kids re: something you were wrong about, in good faith I’ll answer - his kids were/are only toddlers, they don’t have to be in school at all, let alone full time in any Scandinavian country. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 16:59 - Apr 7 with 1014 views | daveB |
I think we need a very good director of football and we haven't had one for a long time.
Les had his good moments and bad, same as Nourry really, they both said pretty much the same things with regard youth development etc
the answer is you get someone in better than both of them. thats not particularly easy and given that this board selected these 2 in the first place I wouldn't trust them to do any better should they choose to change it again |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:20 - Apr 7 with 961 views | GaryBannister86 |
| We need a Director of Football on 15:52 - Apr 7 by SteveW6 |
What was Thompson guilty of?
Ensuring we didn't spend beyond our means and keeping us in the black?
Not wasting his own personal money to chase your dreams?
Our greatest ever side was full of internationals and never won a trophy, do you realise how far behind we really are the 'big boys' and how our greatest hope ever is a one-off cup win?
The Thompson Out protests were, in hindsight, the start of the demise and how typically QPR they were.
You are spot on about Nourry though. |
Lord, I've argued this before but all this pro-Thompson stuff is emotionless hindsight / revisionism of the highest order. Yeah, when I was watching the best team we've had in ages get ripped apart as Thompson sold and sold again, I was really thinking - this is very sensible, actually. Will keep us nice and financially strong so that we can finish mid table in the Championship for the rest of my life.
The people who protested against him were not morons. We were fans, sharp enough (and right) to realise that this was the best chance we had of winning something - perhaps even for the rest of our lives. If that nepo baby (do we attract them or something?) hadn't sold all our best players at ridiculous times, maybe, just maybe we would have won something, or got into Europe.
But yeah - cheer that balance sheet! Balderdash. |  | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:38 - Apr 7 with 898 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:20 - Apr 7 by GaryBannister86 |
Lord, I've argued this before but all this pro-Thompson stuff is emotionless hindsight / revisionism of the highest order. Yeah, when I was watching the best team we've had in ages get ripped apart as Thompson sold and sold again, I was really thinking - this is very sensible, actually. Will keep us nice and financially strong so that we can finish mid table in the Championship for the rest of my life.
The people who protested against him were not morons. We were fans, sharp enough (and right) to realise that this was the best chance we had of winning something - perhaps even for the rest of our lives. If that nepo baby (do we attract them or something?) hadn't sold all our best players at ridiculous times, maybe, just maybe we would have won something, or got into Europe.
But yeah - cheer that balance sheet! Balderdash. |
It's only revisionism if you were part of the protests and have carried out a vote face and deny you wanted him out.
We had a decent squad in the mid 90s. Wonderful by the standards of our past - though far from the greatest we ever had - but good/very good by the standards of the teams we had to catch to win trophies. We might have won a cup but it would have required significant luck of draw and our form in cups throughout the 90s except 90 and, to a degree, 95 did not suggest we were on the cusp of success.
Players were sold at the moment we could get the most money for them and once essential groundwork was taken care off every manager was giving funds to spend as this wish. Wilkins was giviven £5.4m once Hayes took their cut from the Les deal.
I remember being on a LSA coach going to Norwich around the time of.the protests and somebody moaning that Thompson was running the club like a business, Thank God he did and what a pity we embraced owners who didn't and almost killed the club. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:47 - Apr 7 with 858 views | GaryBannister86 |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:38 - Apr 7 by SteveW6 |
It's only revisionism if you were part of the protests and have carried out a vote face and deny you wanted him out.
We had a decent squad in the mid 90s. Wonderful by the standards of our past - though far from the greatest we ever had - but good/very good by the standards of the teams we had to catch to win trophies. We might have won a cup but it would have required significant luck of draw and our form in cups throughout the 90s except 90 and, to a degree, 95 did not suggest we were on the cusp of success.
Players were sold at the moment we could get the most money for them and once essential groundwork was taken care off every manager was giving funds to spend as this wish. Wilkins was giviven £5.4m once Hayes took their cut from the Les deal.
I remember being on a LSA coach going to Norwich around the time of.the protests and somebody moaning that Thompson was running the club like a business, Thank God he did and what a pity we embraced owners who didn't and almost killed the club. |
Totally disagree. I agree with the bloke on the LSA coach (maybe it was me :-)) - at the time we were different, football was different. Right at that moment we needed someone to go for it with the sniff of glory in their nostrils, not some far-sighted view of alleged financial security.
We weren't protesting because he didn't go out and spend £10m of his own money, we were protesting because he was running it like a business he needed to make profitable. Of course your argument has credit, but where was the fun? The hope? The glory?
I think you are giving the nepo baby far too much credit anyway, in my view he didn't have a clue what he was doing. Knew nothing about football or business at the time. Think he has admitted that himself since.
Bah. | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:52 - Apr 7 with 829 views | SteveW6 |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:47 - Apr 7 by GaryBannister86 |
Totally disagree. I agree with the bloke on the LSA coach (maybe it was me :-)) - at the time we were different, football was different. Right at that moment we needed someone to go for it with the sniff of glory in their nostrils, not some far-sighted view of alleged financial security.
We weren't protesting because he didn't go out and spend £10m of his own money, we were protesting because he was running it like a business he needed to make profitable. Of course your argument has credit, but where was the fun? The hope? The glory?
I think you are giving the nepo baby far too much credit anyway, in my view he didn't have a clue what he was doing. Knew nothing about football or business at the time. Think he has admitted that himself since.
Bah. |
Go for it with what money?
We were years from Jack Walker being anything but an outlier and significant debts could have killed the club.
The fun was watching a beautiful team and occasionally giving the big boys a bloody nose. The demands for success were misplaced and at odds with our history. They were the actions of a greedy fanbase.
He wasn't a football fan but he ran the club better than the football men who followed.... | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:55 - Apr 7 with 819 views | daveB |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:38 - Apr 7 by SteveW6 |
It's only revisionism if you were part of the protests and have carried out a vote face and deny you wanted him out.
We had a decent squad in the mid 90s. Wonderful by the standards of our past - though far from the greatest we ever had - but good/very good by the standards of the teams we had to catch to win trophies. We might have won a cup but it would have required significant luck of draw and our form in cups throughout the 90s except 90 and, to a degree, 95 did not suggest we were on the cusp of success.
Players were sold at the moment we could get the most money for them and once essential groundwork was taken care off every manager was giving funds to spend as this wish. Wilkins was giviven £5.4m once Hayes took their cut from the Les deal.
I remember being on a LSA coach going to Norwich around the time of.the protests and somebody moaning that Thompson was running the club like a business, Thank God he did and what a pity we embraced owners who didn't and almost killed the club. |
It's quite typical of QPR that we got the sensible businessmen when we needed a maniac to go and spend and push on and when we needed a sensible businessman we got lunatics | | | |
| We need a Director of Football on 18:05 - Apr 7 with 779 views | GaryBannister86 |
| We need a Director of Football on 17:55 - Apr 7 by daveB |
It's quite typical of QPR that we got the sensible businessmen when we needed a maniac to go and spend and push on and when we needed a sensible businessman we got lunatics |
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