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Wednesday 7:45pm KO



REFEREE JOHN BUSBY AT THE SWANSEA.COM STADIUM
Refereed 7 times
Swansea City Won 2 Drawn 2 Lost 3
For 6 Against 5
Yellow cards: Swansea City 13 Opponents 16
Red cards: Swansea City 0 Opponents 0

All the appearances
JOHN BUSBY (Referee): Referee 7 times; Assistant once & 4th Official 7 times.
MARK RUSSELL (Assistant): Has been an Assistant 19 times at the Stadium
GEORGE BYRNE (Assistant) : Has been an Assistant 7 times at the Stadium
TOM NIELD (4th official): Referee twice; & 4th Official 3 times at the Stadium

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/64966/swansea-city-conun

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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 10:56 - Oct 23 with 2202 viewsswan65split

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 09:15 - Oct 23 by Fireboy2

After a good nights sleep, im thinking there is no way sheehan is changing this around, most teams in the championship have changed some of their personnel, we have won our games against the poorest teams in the league, norwich are one of them, even if we beat them we are still poor, I honestly believe that sheehan cannot change it around, unfortunately its gone too far, we have 3 really tough games after norwich which I think we will lose all 3, we need to change asap before it gets worse.


2 poor performances in the next week , and if hes still here!!! we are doomed, we will implode.
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 10:59 - Oct 23 with 2217 viewswwcigne

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 09:15 - Oct 23 by Fireboy2

After a good nights sleep, im thinking there is no way sheehan is changing this around, most teams in the championship have changed some of their personnel, we have won our games against the poorest teams in the league, norwich are one of them, even if we beat them we are still poor, I honestly believe that sheehan cannot change it around, unfortunately its gone too far, we have 3 really tough games after norwich which I think we will lose all 3, we need to change asap before it gets worse.


I agree FB , we’ve seen no change or improvement in the last few performances and don’t think we will going forward with Sheehan in charge
It’s dumbfounding to think that this is the same bloke we had at the end of last season,playing the way we did compared to now .I don’t know what’s happened to Sheehan but O’Dea seems the only change in the coaching setup and may be the reason
Whatever,Norwich on Saturday won’t be easy and we’ll all have a very close eye on the selection and performance and so will the owners
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 12:49 - Oct 23 with 2018 viewsRichardO

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 10:53 - Oct 23 by swan65split

Both players should have gone,


Either both booked or both off but not a red for one and a yellow for another, referee couldn'thave seen it given by the assistant but it didn't look as if the ref went over to confirm the circumstances using radio comms only.
We seen to want to control the game but press players up far too soon leaving big gaps in the middle we cannot or won't exploit and over commit leaving essentially the centre backs with no covering defenders, we are getting pulled about at the opposition's will as play breaks down or we don't initiate the press as a team doing it in dribs and drabs.
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 12:56 - Oct 23 with 2003 viewsbennytheblue

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 09:23 - Oct 23 by DoubeDoube

Mate, why do you spend so much time on here? its really odd.


I know I know at least 4 minutes this week, I don’t know where I find the time. Am I your mate?
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread on 12:59 - Oct 23 with 1989 viewsbennytheblue

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread on 09:56 - Oct 23 by Whiterockin

Many season ticket holders didn't bother to turn up last night so the attendance was artificially inflated. It's no good trying to attract more supporters if we can't hold what we have. The product on show has to improve quickly or it will be another lost season.


You don’t want to annoy your American Investors either, 2nd biggest spenders this season after those giants oop north, strange why your supporters arent showing up? Less than 10k was it?
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 13:14 - Oct 23 with 1939 viewsWhiterockin

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 12:49 - Oct 23 by RichardO

Either both booked or both off but not a red for one and a yellow for another, referee couldn'thave seen it given by the assistant but it didn't look as if the ref went over to confirm the circumstances using radio comms only.
We seen to want to control the game but press players up far too soon leaving big gaps in the middle we cannot or won't exploit and over commit leaving essentially the centre backs with no covering defenders, we are getting pulled about at the opposition's will as play breaks down or we don't initiate the press as a team doing it in dribs and drabs.


The ref did go over to confirm with his assistant.
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 13:17 - Oct 23 with 1927 viewsjack247

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 13:14 - Oct 23 by Whiterockin

The ref did go over to confirm with his assistant.


I doubt the ref saw it. I didn’t see it as they had either cleared or taken a goal kick and the ball was in our half.

I think the assistant must have made the decision
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 13:20 - Oct 23 with 1910 viewsWhiterockin

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 13:17 - Oct 23 by jack247

I doubt the ref saw it. I didn’t see it as they had either cleared or taken a goal kick and the ball was in our half.

I think the assistant must have made the decision


The assistant did and the ref went over to check the details, albeit briefly.
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 14:32 - Oct 23 with 1833 viewsRichardO

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 13:20 - Oct 23 by Whiterockin

The assistant did and the ref went over to check the details, albeit briefly.


Briefly and quick to give the decision and not taking into account the circumstances and discussing them, poor refereeing for me.
Doesn't excuse Yalcouye as it doesn't excuse good player being made to look bad.
Really think Sheehan is over thinking things, Galbraith should be in the centre of the park, if you want to drop/rest Key play a dedicated full back don't make the midfield weaker with the omission of Galbraith from it.
But Parker isn't up to it, every game I have seen him play in the first team squad he has been up to the job, blaming youngsters for bad performances seems the easy option to use. Glad to see Congreve getting credit for his performance for Dundee, Widell originally dropped, Wales not getting a look in, young dynamic players told they are not ready to fit into a slow turgid preforming team and yet a petulant loanee gets the nod ahead of them, some seem to forget it takes time for a team or players to bed in look at how long it took Guehi and that was with ex-premier league players alongside them.
For now Sheehan needs to play his strongest players in the ir natural positions, if in a settled team they are not performing then look for better solutions, constant changes isn't going to help bed in players and isn't going to help the team in the long run.
Again last night we were passive waiting for the openings to appear letting teams get organised in defence and then trying to force things instead of having good movement to enable player to turn and face the way we want to be playing without over committing.
At the moment we are trying to keep width almost playing with both wingers and wingbacks leaving two not the previously decried three centrebacks.
Time for Sheehan to have a rethink able how we get rhe ball forward into spaces to allow us to progress up the park without making ourselves vulnerable at the back.
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 15:32 - Oct 23 with 1746 viewsSgorioFruit

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 07:29 - Oct 23 by bennytheblue

How many? Oh dear.


Two words, Newport County

My methods are not favoured by some but by god i speak the truth.
Poll: Cardiff Are Relegated

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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 19:43 - Oct 23 with 1536 viewsscruffyjack

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 09:15 - Oct 23 by Fireboy2

After a good nights sleep, im thinking there is no way sheehan is changing this around, most teams in the championship have changed some of their personnel, we have won our games against the poorest teams in the league, norwich are one of them, even if we beat them we are still poor, I honestly believe that sheehan cannot change it around, unfortunately its gone too far, we have 3 really tough games after norwich which I think we will lose all 3, we need to change asap before it gets worse.


I think it’s about time the club sacked Sheehan, and then installed Sheehan as interim manager.
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 19:48 - Oct 23 with 1518 viewsDr_Winston

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 19:43 - Oct 23 by scruffyjack

I think it’s about time the club sacked Sheehan, and then installed Sheehan as interim manager.


I doff my cap to that idea.

He does his best work when temporary.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 20:03 - Oct 23 with 1470 viewsFireboy2

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 19:43 - Oct 23 by scruffyjack

I think it’s about time the club sacked Sheehan, and then installed Sheehan as interim manager.


Ooo you are a card D 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 22:47 - Oct 23 with 1355 viewshowenjack

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 14:32 - Oct 23 by RichardO

Briefly and quick to give the decision and not taking into account the circumstances and discussing them, poor refereeing for me.
Doesn't excuse Yalcouye as it doesn't excuse good player being made to look bad.
Really think Sheehan is over thinking things, Galbraith should be in the centre of the park, if you want to drop/rest Key play a dedicated full back don't make the midfield weaker with the omission of Galbraith from it.
But Parker isn't up to it, every game I have seen him play in the first team squad he has been up to the job, blaming youngsters for bad performances seems the easy option to use. Glad to see Congreve getting credit for his performance for Dundee, Widell originally dropped, Wales not getting a look in, young dynamic players told they are not ready to fit into a slow turgid preforming team and yet a petulant loanee gets the nod ahead of them, some seem to forget it takes time for a team or players to bed in look at how long it took Guehi and that was with ex-premier league players alongside them.
For now Sheehan needs to play his strongest players in the ir natural positions, if in a settled team they are not performing then look for better solutions, constant changes isn't going to help bed in players and isn't going to help the team in the long run.
Again last night we were passive waiting for the openings to appear letting teams get organised in defence and then trying to force things instead of having good movement to enable player to turn and face the way we want to be playing without over committing.
At the moment we are trying to keep width almost playing with both wingers and wingbacks leaving two not the previously decried three centrebacks.
Time for Sheehan to have a rethink able how we get rhe ball forward into spaces to allow us to progress up the park without making ourselves vulnerable at the back.


5 mins in Dunne their centre back went through Tymon . It was late dangerous and could well have merited a straight red. Not even a booking .
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 23:07 - Oct 23 with 1316 viewsbuilthjack

How the devil was there only 3 minutes of injury time ?
Lots of substitutions, a few injuries.
There should have been at least 6 or 7 minutes.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 23:38 - Oct 23 with 1285 viewssons_of_omri

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 22:58 - Oct 22 by wwcigne

Totally agree ,we were utter crap before the sending off,too slow and negative like the last couple of performances and that’s down to Sheehan ,once again the wrong team and tactics
I struggle to see what Idah offers and what his strengths are and I know we were chasing the game but we looked far more proactive when Stamenic went off , Zan should have started and Widell should have come on much earlier,Key in fairness was ok when he came on but I can’t see why Sheehan brought Cullen on and why he keeps using him , is Cullen a secret investor and insists he plays or does Sheehan owe him money or something, why did he take the free kick on the wrong side of the pitch for him ,ludicrous
Sheehan got the gig on the back of the performances at the end of last season,a million miles better than what he’s serving up now.Norwich's is now a big big game and I also agree if we lose he has to go


That free kick was made for Widdell to take but Cullen selfishly overruled him and bolloxed it up. Cullen, Stamenic Eom and Ronald certainly are among Sheehans favourites and that will cost him dearly.
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 11:56 - Oct 24 with 1105 viewsjack247

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 23:07 - Oct 23 by builthjack

How the devil was there only 3 minutes of injury time ?
Lots of substitutions, a few injuries.
There should have been at least 6 or 7 minutes.


Yes 100%. I can’t remember the last time we had under 5 minutes in the second half
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 16:02 - Oct 24 with 1024 viewsJJBomber

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread UPDATED on 23:07 - Oct 23 by builthjack

How the devil was there only 3 minutes of injury time ?
Lots of substitutions, a few injuries.
There should have been at least 6 or 7 minutes.


It was to save the crowd from further punishment!
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Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread on 00:01 - Oct 25 with 930 viewssons_of_omri

Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day thread on 10:05 - Oct 23 by jack247

There are absolutely not a few thousand people in Swansea who don’t go because they don’t know when we’re playing.

I’m no expert in that field, but for me, focus should be on…

Retaining existing support. If we keep playing like we are, people will start to drift away. That’s people who are genuinely interested choosing not to go. You can’t do that with banners, it’s simply results and performances

Creating new support. Getting Cyril, LT10, even current players into communities - schools, hospitals, kids half term football camps, even large employers like call centres. Capture the kids interest and that may make the parents take them. A meet and greet in Amazon or Admiral may generate some interest.

Of course we should be shouting about upcoming games all over the city. I just don’t think people who aren’t interested in us is a great market.


Of course - with ceefax gone how the hell can anyone find any information about the swans any more? It’s not like there’s a thing called the internet where the club could have a website or local tbh or radio news or anything.

People just don’t want to watch us at the moment and who the hell could blame them? We are awful !
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