| The BBC 20:49 - Nov 9 with 25097 views | colinallcars |
Bell, Book & Candle.
Please no nasty stuff, but they had it coming didn't they ?
When I were a nipper, they were one of the most respected organizations in the world. |  | | |  |
| The BBC on 10:13 - Nov 10 with 2331 views | Juzzie |
Anyone editing something to make the outcome look different or to follow a particular narrative deserves what they get if found out. It's lying and it's fraudulent IMO and it's almost become the norm and acceptable, especially on social media, which it is not.
I'm no Trump fan by any stretch but the BBC have shot themselves in the foot and just fed on a plate Trump's belief that MSM is fake news which he will milk to death as the victim. |  | | |
| The BBC on 10:30 - Nov 10 with 2233 views | JamesB1979 |
| The BBC on 10:13 - Nov 10 by Juzzie |
Anyone editing something to make the outcome look different or to follow a particular narrative deserves what they get if found out. It's lying and it's fraudulent IMO and it's almost become the norm and acceptable, especially on social media, which it is not.
I'm no Trump fan by any stretch but the BBC have shot themselves in the foot and just fed on a plate Trump's belief that MSM is fake news which he will milk to death as the victim. |
For the BBC it’s either lazy editing or they spotted it and ignored it. They can talk about cuts etc but if you decide to pay 1.5m to 1 presenter, then, I think that argument is pretty weak. Pretty certain most people don’t have tv licence to watch football. |  | | |
| The BBC on 10:33 - Nov 10 with 2204 views | Esox_Lucius |
The BBC is a world leader in a number of categories; drama, comedy, naturalist output etc. Its biggest failing, IMO, is its news output apropos political reporting. I first noticed this when their reporting of anything to do with Corbyn winning an election carried a tone of aversion to the notion and was even reflected in some of their political comedy content in HIGNFY and Mock The Week. Latterly, the complete restructuring of the BBC board in line with the then Tory government thinking and inference of Israeli funding both in the government and the BBC has led to skewed reporting of the genocide in Palestine and a biased push to get Reform front and centre to the exclusion of other parties with greater representation in the HoC.
Whilst not entirely neutral to the point of being completely trustworthy for news, Al Jazeera tries to give a very balanced viewpoint to its political reporting.
I have a habit of not trusting controversial news reporting until I have researched who is funding the news agency and cross checked the information with at least three other sources, also checked for ownership and funding sources. There are a lot of bad actors operating in political news reporting and it pays to be a little wary and sceptical all the time and FWIW the BBC are far from the worst. |  |
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| The BBC on 10:47 - Nov 10 with 2150 views | Juzzie |
| The BBC on 10:30 - Nov 10 by JamesB1979 |
For the BBC it’s either lazy editing or they spotted it and ignored it. They can talk about cuts etc but if you decide to pay 1.5m to 1 presenter, then, I think that argument is pretty weak. Pretty certain most people don’t have tv licence to watch football. |
It's more than lazy editing IMO, it looks very much deliberate and excerpts from an hour apart spliced together. Watch the whole video but the main points starts at around 1:00.
https://news.sky.com/video/the-trump-bbc-controversy-explained-13467808
Did it go unnoticed/unchecked and allowed to be published? Was it known and deliberately published?
Either way, WTAF did the BBC think? I'm amazed none of Trump's administration noticed it and it took another news outlet to spot it. The Telegraph have just fked the BBC right over.
Maybe it'll be the catalyst to get their house in order as there has been a lot of suggestion for years that the once proud impartial BBC has descended into a political tool which it absolutely should not be especially being predominantly public funded.
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| The BBC on 12:04 - Nov 10 with 1961 views | Boston |
Personally, I get my news from Lord Haw-Haw. | |
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| The BBC on 12:11 - Nov 10 with 1950 views | derbyhoop |
BBC used to be a byword for quality and impartiality.
I used to think that when the criticism was coming from both Left and Right they were getting it about right.
But the Panorama report, the scandal over Lineker, Masterchef, Huw Edwards and too many other examples, show that the quality has deteriorated.
The you have the perceived bias towards right wing causes. Tory Laura and Robinson seem to be the media arms of CCHQ. And Farage appears on QT more often than Fiona Bruce, whilst , say, Lib Dems with 12x as many MPs get sidelined.
Still, international coverage and local radio are things you wouldn't get from a partisan agenda. |  |
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| The BBC on 12:13 - Nov 10 with 1950 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| The BBC on 10:47 - Nov 10 by Juzzie |
It's more than lazy editing IMO, it looks very much deliberate and excerpts from an hour apart spliced together. Watch the whole video but the main points starts at around 1:00.
https://news.sky.com/video/the-trump-bbc-controversy-explained-13467808
Did it go unnoticed/unchecked and allowed to be published? Was it known and deliberately published?
Either way, WTAF did the BBC think? I'm amazed none of Trump's administration noticed it and it took another news outlet to spot it. The Telegraph have just fked the BBC right over.
Maybe it'll be the catalyst to get their house in order as there has been a lot of suggestion for years that the once proud impartial BBC has descended into a political tool which it absolutely should not be especially being predominantly public funded.
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I still think it's less serious than editing an interview about experiences of antisemitic abuse at University to make it appear they referred to experiences in the Labour Party, in the run up to a general election. |  | | |
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| The BBC on 12:18 - Nov 10 with 1922 views | Boston |
| The BBC on 10:47 - Nov 10 by Juzzie |
It's more than lazy editing IMO, it looks very much deliberate and excerpts from an hour apart spliced together. Watch the whole video but the main points starts at around 1:00.
https://news.sky.com/video/the-trump-bbc-controversy-explained-13467808
Did it go unnoticed/unchecked and allowed to be published? Was it known and deliberately published?
Either way, WTAF did the BBC think? I'm amazed none of Trump's administration noticed it and it took another news outlet to spot it. The Telegraph have just fked the BBC right over.
Maybe it'll be the catalyst to get their house in order as there has been a lot of suggestion for years that the once proud impartial BBC has descended into a political tool which it absolutely should not be especially being predominantly public funded.
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Members of Trump's administration, and some in the media here, had and did mention this. But reporting at this level is par for the course when it comes to Donald Trump. Protestation from him or his supporters rarely get beyond first base so I can only guess that Auntie has finally crossed too many lines elsewhere to not suffer retribution. | |
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| The BBC on 12:25 - Nov 10 with 1888 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| The BBC on 12:11 - Nov 10 by derbyhoop |
BBC used to be a byword for quality and impartiality.
I used to think that when the criticism was coming from both Left and Right they were getting it about right.
But the Panorama report, the scandal over Lineker, Masterchef, Huw Edwards and too many other examples, show that the quality has deteriorated.
The you have the perceived bias towards right wing causes. Tory Laura and Robinson seem to be the media arms of CCHQ. And Farage appears on QT more often than Fiona Bruce, whilst , say, Lib Dems with 12x as many MPs get sidelined.
Still, international coverage and local radio are things you wouldn't get from a partisan agenda. |
Impartial?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-43754737 | | | |
| The BBC on 12:41 - Nov 10 with 1819 views | Stanisgod |
| The BBC on 21:57 - Nov 9 by ted_hendrix |
**the BBC remains one of our great institutions**
They were one time but they are not now. |
Only report what THEY want to report nowadays Im afraid. Refuse to watch teir so called news channel. |  |
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| The BBC on 12:43 - Nov 10 with 1810 views | Boston |
Never watch Yes Minister? | |
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| The BBC on 12:45 - Nov 10 with 1794 views | kensalriser |
Internal power struggle routed through a far right hatchet job by the Telegraph because Tory Tim isn't right wing enough.
Saying that, the editing was crass not because it changed the narrative of Trump's speech - we've all seen it before and know what he was doing - but because there's no need to edit stuff about Trump to show him in a bad light, he does that himself very effectively on a daily basis. |  |
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| The BBC on 12:55 - Nov 10 with 1781 views | francisbowles |
| The BBC on 09:34 - Nov 10 by JamesB1979 |
Yes I think made by an outside company from what they’re saying.
I’d like them to spend more of their income on documentaries and dramas and better comedies. The amount they spend on footballer presenters is ridiculous. There’s also so many other channels that have football on. |
I'd also prefer less spent on sport punditry and less analysis and more action, if possible contractually, or alternatively a shorter show. The BBC should employ cheaper new talent and encourage a churn of sports presenters.
News coverage should retain experienced analysts but only if they provide balanced views and reporting.
I'd prefer the funding to be from taxation, which means that every tax payer contributes to TV, national and local radio, web site, world services and apps.
Can't be many who never use any of these services. | | | |
| The BBC on 13:03 - Nov 10 with 1758 views | francisbowles |
| The BBC on 10:09 - Nov 10 by daveB |
Quite possibly but that seemed to be an easy thing to spot and fix, it doesn't look good and just gives a real opportunity to those who want to get rid of the BBC to get their wish |
Agree with that daveB. It's why the resignations at the top are correct and it's important that those at lower levels, who have facilitated these 'errors', are held to account as well.
It maybe that rather than one DG they have three of their 'chiefs' make policy decisions and corrections on a majority basis. | | | |
| The BBC on 13:16 - Nov 10 with 1711 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| The BBC on 12:43 - Nov 10 by Boston |
Never watch Yes Minister? |
Not often, Felicity Kendall wasn't in it. | | | |
| The BBC on 13:22 - Nov 10 with 1677 views | willesdenr |
From James O'Brien, LBC, "In 'How They Broke Britain', I do a pretty good job of detailing the depth & breadth of Tufton Street/Tory/Murdoch/Mail attempts to scupper the BBC, even as I castigate some presenters for going too easy on precisely the people who seek the Corporation's abolition. But I should have done more. Dominic Cummings, in an earlier incarnation, ran a secretly-funded 'think tank' dedicated to attacking the Beeb while Robbie Gibb glided effortlessly from GBNews to the BBC & started lecturing staff on impartiality. Imagine (cos you'll have to) how the 'left-wing' equivalent would be reported." | | | |
| The BBC on 14:03 - Nov 10 with 1559 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| The BBC on 13:22 - Nov 10 by willesdenr |
From James O'Brien, LBC, "In 'How They Broke Britain', I do a pretty good job of detailing the depth & breadth of Tufton Street/Tory/Murdoch/Mail attempts to scupper the BBC, even as I castigate some presenters for going too easy on precisely the people who seek the Corporation's abolition. But I should have done more. Dominic Cummings, in an earlier incarnation, ran a secretly-funded 'think tank' dedicated to attacking the Beeb while Robbie Gibb glided effortlessly from GBNews to the BBC & started lecturing staff on impartiality. Imagine (cos you'll have to) how the 'left-wing' equivalent would be reported." |
Yeah, unsurprisingly those shouting loudest to scrap, Farage, Rupert Lowe etc have the most to lose from any serious scrutiny. The same as those critical of education, the judiciary etc. The trouble is, much like Labour, they've alienated both the left and right. | | | |
| The BBC on 14:34 - Nov 10 with 1463 views | willesdenr |
| The BBC on 14:03 - Nov 10 by Sonic_Hoop |
Yeah, unsurprisingly those shouting loudest to scrap, Farage, Rupert Lowe etc have the most to lose from any serious scrutiny. The same as those critical of education, the judiciary etc. The trouble is, much like Labour, they've alienated both the left and right. |
The BBC’s Director General Tim Davie and other senior bosses at the corporation have drawn up plans to win over voters of Reform UK, due to a belief that their news and drama output is creating “low trust issues” with supporters of Nigel Farage’s party.
Minutes of a meeting of the BBC’s Editorial Guidelines and Standards Committee in March, seen by Byline Times, show that BBC News CEO Deborah Turness gave a presentation in which she discussed plans to alter “story selection” and “other types of output, such as drama” in order to win the trust of Reform voters.
The committee also identified “the importance of local BBC teams” to their plan to win over supporters of Farage. | | | |
| The BBC on 14:53 - Nov 10 with 1422 views | Boston |
| The BBC on 14:34 - Nov 10 by willesdenr |
The BBC’s Director General Tim Davie and other senior bosses at the corporation have drawn up plans to win over voters of Reform UK, due to a belief that their news and drama output is creating “low trust issues” with supporters of Nigel Farage’s party.
Minutes of a meeting of the BBC’s Editorial Guidelines and Standards Committee in March, seen by Byline Times, show that BBC News CEO Deborah Turness gave a presentation in which she discussed plans to alter “story selection” and “other types of output, such as drama” in order to win the trust of Reform voters.
The committee also identified “the importance of local BBC teams” to their plan to win over supporters of Farage. |
Win them over, for what reason? | |
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| The BBC on 15:05 - Nov 10 with 1409 views | PlanetHonneywood |
When it comes to the state of the BBC, we shouldn't ignore how much it's been the author of it's own misfortune as much as it's suffered from malevolent political forces!
In my view, it will go at some stage, and while some say we'll miss it when its gone what they really mean is: we'll miss what it was and what it should have been and not the shitshow it is!
I see Nourry's odds of being the next DG have been slashed. Experience of running a cronie laden acronym in West London must put the Archbishop of Canterbury-elect in with a real shout! |  |
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| The BBC on 15:07 - Nov 10 with 1404 views | Sonic_Hoop |
Ned, you missed a downvote opportunity. | | | |
| The BBC on 15:14 - Nov 10 with 1386 views | londonscottish |
Ironically there's hardly any business coverage left because they shifted all the staff Manchester. And left most of the people they'd normally have spoken to in London 200 miles away. Ridiculous decision. |  |
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