| Our World Cup coverage 17:58 - May 25 with 81109 views | KeithHaynes | Keep the comments on the competition here folks š Our Swedish writer Olle Sƶderholm will be the man right in the middle of this years reports. Opening fixtures. Thursday, June 11: Group A: Mexico vs. South Africa (Mexico City), 1 p.m. local / 3 p.m. ET Group A: South Korea vs. Czechia (Zapopan, Mexico), 8 p.m. local / 10 p.m. ET Friday, June 12: Group B: Canada vs. Bosnia and Herzegovina (Toronto), 3 p.m. ET Group D: United States vs. Paraguay (Inglewood, Calif.), 6 p.m. local / 9 p.m. ET Saturday, June 13: Group B: Qatar vs. Switzerland (Santa Clara, Calif.), noon local / 3 p.m. ET Group C: Brazil vs. Morocco (East Rutherford, New Jersey), 6 p.m. ET Group C: Haiti vs. Scotland (Foxborough, Mass.), 9 p.m. ET Group D: Australia vs. Türkiye (Vancouver, Canada), 9 p.m. local / 12 a.m. ET (June 14) Sunday, June 14: Group E: Germany vs. CuraƧao (Houston), noon local / 1 p.m. ET Group F: Netherlands vs. Japan (Arlington, Texas), 3 p.m. local / 4 p.m. ET Group E: Ivory Coast vs. Ecuador (Philadelphia), 7 p.m. ET Group F: Sweden vs. Tunisia (Guadalupe, Mexico), 8 p.m. local / 10 p.m. ET The real World Cup squad. Free the 56
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| Our World Cup coverage on 22:12 - Jul 15 with 1873 views | union_jack | And the knives are out already. That said, Tuchel got it horribly wrong not just at the end but most of the game. England gave Argentina too much space, too much time on the ball and it was just a matter of when not if. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 22:13 - Jul 15 with 1869 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Our World Cup coverage on 22:12 - Jul 15 by union_jack | And the knives are out already. That said, Tuchel got it horribly wrong not just at the end but most of the game. England gave Argentina too much space, too much time on the ball and it was just a matter of when not if. |
A rather Southgate like performance. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 22:15 - Jul 15 with 1854 views | paulmatthews | Nice language.Dont think they were overly dirty and certainly deserved to win.Took Gordon off with over 25mins to go and went too defensive had no way out |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 22:16 - Jul 15 with 1850 views | Dr_Winston |
| Our World Cup coverage on 22:13 - Jul 15 by JACKMANANDBOY | A rather Southgate like performance. |
Southgate/Martin/Williams. There's some sort of issue with the DNA of a lot of coaches that seems to make them believe sitting back and defending for half an hour is a reasonable tactic. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 22:16 - Jul 15 with 1843 views | Whiterockin |
| Our World Cup coverage on 22:12 - Jul 15 by union_jack | And the knives are out already. That said, Tuchel got it horribly wrong not just at the end but most of the game. England gave Argentina too much space, too much time on the ball and it was just a matter of when not if. |
2 shots on target by England was never going to be enough, Argentina hit the post twice could have scored more and deserved to win. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 22:18 - Jul 15 with 1808 views | ReslovenSwan1 | Left back and Spense were always a concern. This world cup has not been about intricate passing movement around the box. Have a pop from 25yards and stick the ball in the box for the big lad and a thumping header. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 22:21 - Jul 15 with 1804 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Our World Cup coverage on 22:16 - Jul 15 by Dr_Winston | Southgate/Martin/Williams. There's some sort of issue with the DNA of a lot of coaches that seems to make them believe sitting back and defending for half an hour is a reasonable tactic. |
It's being on forever here, my grandad played top flight football leading up to the second world war. He said that when teams score early, the longer the game goes on the more cautious they get. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 22:24 - Jul 15 with 1780 views | Whiterockin |
| Our World Cup coverage on 22:16 - Jul 15 by Dr_Winston | Southgate/Martin/Williams. There's some sort of issue with the DNA of a lot of coaches that seems to make them believe sitting back and defending for half an hour is a reasonable tactic. |
Tuchel got away with it a couple of times in this WC, but Argentina used the obvious tactic shoot from outside the box and it doesn't matter how many defenders you have in there. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| Our World Cup coverage on 22:28 - Jul 15 with 1755 views | Boundy |
| Our World Cup coverage on 22:12 - Jul 15 by union_jack | And the knives are out already. That said, Tuchel got it horribly wrong not just at the end but most of the game. England gave Argentina too much space, too much time on the ball and it was just a matter of when not if. |
Was there ever a time to score too early ? |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 00:13 - Jul 16 with 1568 views | gadgetuk | Great first half, but enland went too defensive after the goal. Bad decisions by the ref for both sides but ultimately Tuchel should have kept attacking argentina rather than going on the defensive. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 01:43 - Jul 16 with 1524 views | Robbie | Could be a good day to bury the bad issues we face onto the lesser seen media sites and the back pages . The failure of England to qualify will be Headline News on all fronts now . |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 07:47 - Jul 16 with 1409 views | pencoedjack |
| Our World Cup coverage on 20:56 - Jul 15 by onehunglow | Jesus This is Argentina They donāt do sportsmanship or morality They are out to get a player sent off They do nothing but intimidate , bs ,dive and cheat They always have Feck me folks , come on mun Would we like to see the Swans play like that They are hassling the ref at every turn Heās weak Uruguayans Chileans Paraguayans Thereās a common denominator |
& they win. There are different ways to play & Argentina are a very good at winning. If the Swans won as much as Argentina I would have no issue watching them. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 09:09 - Jul 16 with 1294 views | onehunglow |
| Our World Cup coverage on 07:47 - Jul 16 by pencoedjack | & they win. There are different ways to play & Argentina are a very good at winning. If the Swans won as much as Argentina I would have no issue watching them. |
Iād poke my eyes out if Swans cheated on that manner |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 09:24 - Jul 16 with 1276 views | union_jack |
| Our World Cup coverage on 07:47 - Jul 16 by pencoedjack | & they win. There are different ways to play & Argentina are a very good at winning. If the Swans won as much as Argentina I would have no issue watching them. |
Theyāre good enough not to have to resort to such nefarious tactics. As I said earlier, Swans play more like England - deep defensively inviting pressure, narrow in defence allowing wingers to have a cup of tea before crossing the ball, dwelling on the ball too long, not physically strong enough, lacking in nouse etc. England were not good enough I have to admit and if I am totally honest, they should have lost to Norway. We gave to face it, they flattered to deceive in this competition. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 09:29 - Jul 16 with 1266 views | raynor94 | From the time England scored to when Argentina scored their possession stats were 12% pathetic what message did sending on 3 defenders and going to a back 5 say. The game was there for England to win after going 1 up they should have gone for it |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 09:36 - Jul 16 with 1251 views | Whiterockin |
| Our World Cup coverage on 09:29 - Jul 16 by raynor94 | From the time England scored to when Argentina scored their possession stats were 12% pathetic what message did sending on 3 defenders and going to a back 5 say. The game was there for England to win after going 1 up they should have gone for it |
The Argentinian coaching knew exactly what to expect if England scored in the second half, it was easy for them to coach their players for this very scenario. Tuchel should have out thought them and done something differently. If you are easy to predict in the end you will lose. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 09:56 - Jul 16 with 1222 views | blackswan |
| Our World Cup coverage on 09:29 - Jul 16 by raynor94 | From the time England scored to when Argentina scored their possession stats were 12% pathetic what message did sending on 3 defenders and going to a back 5 say. The game was there for England to win after going 1 up they should have gone for it |
Saka and eze warming the bench all tournament says it all really have tge attacking options to hurt any team just far to timid more mice than lions but thats down to the coach |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 10:06 - Jul 16 with 1205 views | OptimisticJack | England always the bridesmaid - never the bride unfortunately |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 10:16 - Jul 16 with 1179 views | Whiterockin |
| Our World Cup coverage on 10:06 - Jul 16 by OptimisticJack | England always the bridesmaid - never the bride unfortunately |
Not even the bridesmaid, they will struggle to beat France on Saturday. If it wasn't going to be hard enough a days less rest and confidence is on the floor, they will need a lot of luck to win. |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 10:26 - Jul 16 with 1165 views | swan65split | as swans fans we should be use to knowing what happens when you try and defend a slim lead! we all knew how it would end up. Was Kane playing? or in awe of a legend? |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 10:33 - Jul 16 with 1149 views | union_jack |
| Our World Cup coverage on 09:36 - Jul 16 by Whiterockin | The Argentinian coaching knew exactly what to expect if England scored in the second half, it was easy for them to coach their players for this very scenario. Tuchel should have out thought them and done something differently. If you are easy to predict in the end you will lose. |
I think we are (unfortunately) failing to give Argentina enough credit here. They played magnificently after going one down and England didnāt know how to deal with them so resorted to sitting deep which was never going to work. The fact that after the England goal was scored Argentina upped the pressure was down to them not England. That said, I agree that an āattack is the best form of defenceā could have been more successful but in the end they just werenāt good enough and went further than maybe they deserved to. Quite simply they were found out last night. |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 10:35 - Jul 16 with 1131 views | onehunglow |
| Our World Cup coverage on 10:26 - Jul 16 by swan65split | as swans fans we should be use to knowing what happens when you try and defend a slim lead! we all knew how it would end up. Was Kane playing? or in awe of a legend? |
True Argentina deserved to win on merit There is no need for them to cheat as they do Itās in their DNA though and part of South American culture Donāt forget filthy Paraguayans The history of these countries defines them as people England fecked it up It aināt coming home Scots came home earlier Wales didnāt go Whenās Swans back on |  |
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| Our World Cup coverage on 10:36 - Jul 16 with 1144 views | TenbySwan | Not sure which thread it was on, but someone mentioned an England flag with Caernarfon Town. Perhaps it was this guy from Caernarfon who has been England kit man since 2004. In Welsh. Great article and well translating on Google translate or whatever. The idea of him, Gareth Southgate and 20-30 England staff/players watching Caernarfon Town on S4C is great. https://www.bbc.co.uk/cymrufyw |  | |  |
| Our World Cup coverage on 11:18 - Jul 16 with 1110 views | RodgerTheDodger |
| Our World Cup coverage on 10:35 - Jul 16 by onehunglow | True Argentina deserved to win on merit There is no need for them to cheat as they do Itās in their DNA though and part of South American culture Donāt forget filthy Paraguayans The history of these countries defines them as people England fecked it up It aināt coming home Scots came home earlier Wales didnāt go Whenās Swans back on |
John Barnes said after the infamous 1982 game that he wasn't too upset, they were the stronger team, they were going to win whatever. What disturbed him was they actually preferred to win by cheating, it was better. That is the Argentine mindset, hence the state of their economy and their absurd politics. [Post edited 16 Jul 16:00]
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| Our World Cup coverage on 12:36 - Jul 16 with 1018 views | onehunglow |
| Our World Cup coverage on 11:18 - Jul 16 by RodgerTheDodger | John Barnes said after the infamous 1982 game that he wasn't too upset, they were the stronger team, they were going to win whatever. What disturbed him was they actually preferred to win by cheating, it was better. That is the Argentine mindset, hence the state of their economy and their absurd politics. [Post edited 16 Jul 16:00]
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Thank you so much for that riposte Today I am reading utter xxxx from Welsh people It makes me feel ashamed Itās ok though because some gog farmers caught the boat from Liverpool to buy cheap land They spoke Welsh Thatās it Hereās a country with a history of right wing vicious dictatorships where major Nazis found shelter and solace Hereās a country that worship Peron Hereās a country who killed Welsh boys Not enoughā¦. Hereās a country where cheating is part of culture Itās a day of shame for Wales English oppression I read Banned by great great great grandparents from speaking Welsh etc Our real identity and nature is gossamer thin and we need to find a way of moving on as clearly we havenāt , we donāt seemingly want to We actually prefer to watch England lose England play them at rugby this weekend so same the eh whilst wales face a South African team who will humiliate us again in a world sport |  |
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