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led zepp vs spirit 14:09 - Apr 12 with 4069 viewsbob566

who do you reckon will win. Have a listen to the embedded youtube vid and make up your own minds. Whatever you think about the stairway to heaven track their track sounds very much like the beatles song he plays.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/did-led-zeppelin-copy-spirit-on-stairway
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led zepp vs spirit on 14:28 - Apr 12 with 4036 viewsBrianMcCarthy

I think they're in huge trouble. The Stairway-Taurus similarity seems obvious to me anyway.

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led zepp vs spirit on 14:32 - Apr 12 with 4032 viewsToast_R

It's not the same piece of music so although simularities, it's a complete crock of sh*te to say it was stolen. Do they own music notes? Of course not.
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led zepp vs spirit on 14:37 - Apr 12 with 4027 viewsBlackCrowe

Forgotten all about Spirit. Great band and Randy California a great guitarist. That's spotify sorted for me tonight.

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led zepp vs spirit on 15:01 - Apr 12 with 4008 viewsexiled_dictator




the defence rests its case.

but fcuk me, they do sound similar.

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led zepp vs spirit on 15:06 - Apr 12 with 3995 viewsBrightonhoop

led zepp vs spirit on 14:28 - Apr 12 by BrianMcCarthy

I think they're in huge trouble. The Stairway-Taurus similarity seems obvious to me anyway.


It's all in the A Minor chord. The fact a Judge has called it on, and the statute of limitations was negated by a 2014 re-master by Zep, has left them with some serious explaining to do.
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led zepp vs spirit on 15:09 - Apr 12 with 3991 viewsEastR

here's Jimmy Plagiarist on how he came up with it ....


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led zepp vs spirit on 15:17 - Apr 12 with 3976 viewsMonahoop

led zepp vs spirit on 14:37 - Apr 12 by BlackCrowe

Forgotten all about Spirit. Great band and Randy California a great guitarist. That's spotify sorted for me tonight.


Check out Twelve Dreams of Dr Sardonicus, a beautifully crafted album, a mix of rock, jazz, folk and psychedelia. One of my all time favourite albums. Randy was one of the few rock musicians I have met in person. A thoroughly decent gent. Such a sad loss when he died trying to save his son in a surfing accident.
I often wonder about Zep, in how much of their stuff was 'borrowed' or heavily influenced by other groups. Used to like them. Can't listen to them at all now.

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led zepp vs spirit on 15:25 - Apr 12 with 3964 viewsBlackCrowe

led zepp vs spirit on 15:17 - Apr 12 by Monahoop

Check out Twelve Dreams of Dr Sardonicus, a beautifully crafted album, a mix of rock, jazz, folk and psychedelia. One of my all time favourite albums. Randy was one of the few rock musicians I have met in person. A thoroughly decent gent. Such a sad loss when he died trying to save his son in a surfing accident.
I often wonder about Zep, in how much of their stuff was 'borrowed' or heavily influenced by other groups. Used to like them. Can't listen to them at all now.


Yeah that's the one album - got in on vinyl somewhere up in the loft. There's also another i've got called Adventures in Potatoland or something like that - which was a bit patch but had a couple of great tracks.

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led zepp vs spirit on 15:28 - Apr 12 with 3957 viewsJuzzie

led zepp vs spirit on 14:32 - Apr 12 by Toast_R

It's not the same piece of music so although simularities, it's a complete crock of sh*te to say it was stolen. Do they own music notes? Of course not.


"I'm playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order"
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led zepp vs spirit on 15:46 - Apr 12 with 3930 viewsMetallica_Hoop

Still a great track even if they nicked a bit.

Nuno throws out some Hendix on the song Rest in Peace and it still sounds great.

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led zepp vs spirit on 15:51 - Apr 12 with 3921 viewsjohncharles

Loved Spirit, never much liked Led Zeppelin. So guess which way I'll be voting.

Strong and stable my arse.

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led zepp vs spirit on 16:12 - Apr 12 with 3897 viewsSimonJames

Ridiculous litigious culture in America!
I'm sure if you look wide enough and far enough back in time, you'll find elements of almost every modern song have been done before.
Next I suppose they'll be trying to sue bands for copying drum patterns.

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led zepp vs spirit on 16:18 - Apr 12 with 3894 viewsTheBlob

led zepp vs spirit on 15:51 - Apr 12 by johncharles

Loved Spirit, never much liked Led Zeppelin. So guess which way I'll be voting.


Spirit was one of the staples on the tape machine for us old roadies in the seventies.
Lovely jazzy piano break...

Never understood these lawsuits,most music of the time was borrowed from old blues chunes anyway.
Stairway was written just up the road from Devil's Bridge....pronounced
Merkuntlleth....

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led zepp vs spirit on 17:27 - Apr 12 with 3848 viewsWrightUp5hit___

Kaptain Kopter, Spirit of 76 sometimes a bit mad, but class.

That is all
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led zepp vs spirit on 17:35 - Apr 12 with 3834 viewsbob566

led zepp vs spirit on 17:27 - Apr 12 by WrightUp5hit___

Kaptain Kopter, Spirit of 76 sometimes a bit mad, but class.

That is all


is he any relation to captain kopter and the fabulous twirly birds?
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led zepp vs spirit on 17:49 - Apr 12 with 3820 viewsBrianMcCarthy

I read about this before a few years back and I think that the two bands toured just before Stairway was written, the implication/allegation being obvious.

I don't care if they nicked a bit or not, it's still a cracking choon and even the clip shows that Zep took a riff and made into something more glorious.

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led zepp vs spirit on 17:56 - Apr 12 with 3817 viewsbob566

led zepp vs spirit on 17:49 - Apr 12 by BrianMcCarthy

I read about this before a few years back and I think that the two bands toured just before Stairway was written, the implication/allegation being obvious.

I don't care if they nicked a bit or not, it's still a cracking choon and even the clip shows that Zep took a riff and made into something more glorious.


fair enough but then come out and give spirit their cut of the royalties or at least admit you sampled a bit of their song. Its not like they're short of a few quid.
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led zepp vs spirit on 18:19 - Apr 12 with 3797 viewsBrianMcCarthy

led zepp vs spirit on 17:56 - Apr 12 by bob566

fair enough but then come out and give spirit their cut of the royalties or at least admit you sampled a bit of their song. Its not like they're short of a few quid.


Very true.

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led zepp vs spirit on 19:01 - Apr 12 with 3768 viewsBklynRanger

led zepp vs spirit on 15:01 - Apr 12 by exiled_dictator




the defence rests its case.

but fcuk me, they do sound similar.


That for me conclusively proves that Stairway to Heaven is better. :)

Seriously though - the Zep version seems more melodic. Jimmy Page probably did nick it, or the guts of it. Maybe he knew where and how it had lodged in his brain or maybe not. Getting the LA lawyers involved is pretty unfortunate way for things to go - I'd like to know who's in this 'Estate' or whatever it's called - hopefully not a load of nephews and neices twice removed - if the man didn't get the money when he was alive maybe it's best to leave it.
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led zepp vs spirit on 19:36 - Apr 12 with 3746 viewsWrightUp5hit___

led zepp vs spirit on 17:35 - Apr 12 by bob566

is he any relation to captain kopter and the fabulous twirly birds?


Kaptain Kopter = Randy California

As a very young kid he used to gig with Hendrix back in the Café Wha days.

Ed Cassidy, the very tasteful drummer in Spirit was his stepfather
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led zepp vs spirit on 19:37 - Apr 12 with 3741 viewsE17hoop

4 Chords...



Journey -- "Don't Stop Believing"
James Blunt -- "You're Beautiful"
Black Eyed Peas -- "Where Is the Love"
Alphaville -- "Forever Young"
Jason Mraz -- "I'm Yours"
Train -- "Hey Soul Sister"
The Calling -- "Wherever You Will Go"
Elton John -- "Can You Feel The Love Tonight" (from The Lion King)
Akon -- "Don't Matter"
John Denver -- "Take Me Home, Country Roads"
Lady Gaga -- "Paparazzi"
U2 -- "With Or Without You"
The Last Goodnight -- "Pictures of You"
Maroon Five -- "She Will Be Loved"
The Beatles -- "Let It Be"
Bob Marley -- "No Woman No Cry"
Marcy Playground -- "Sex and Candy"
Men At Work -- "Land Down Under"
Theme from America's Funniest Home Videos
Jack Johnson -- "Taylor"
Spice Girls -- "Two Become One"
A Ha -- "Take On Me"
Green Day -- "When I Come Around"
Eagle Eye Cherry -- "Save Tonight"
Toto -- "Africa"
Beyonce -- "If I Were A Boy"
Kelly Clarkson -- "Behind These Hazel Eyes"
Jason DeRulo -- "In My Head"
The Smashing Pumpkins -- "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"
Joan Osborne -- "One Of Us"
Avril Lavigne -- "Complicated"
The Offspring -- "Self Esteem"
The Offspring -- "You're Gonna Go Far Kid"
Akon -- "Beautiful"
Timberland featuring OneRepublic -- "Apologize"
Eminem featuring Rihanna -- "Love the Way You Lie"
Bon Jovi -- "It's My Life"
Lady Gaga -- "Pokerface"
Aqua -- "Barbie Girl"
Red Hot Chili Peppers -- "Otherside"
The Gregory Brothers -- "Double Rainbow"
MGMT -- "Kids"
Andrea Bocelli -- "Time To Say Goodbye"
Robert Burns -- "Auld Lang Syne"
Five for fighting -- "Superman"
The Axis of Awesome -- "Birdplane"
Missy Higgins -- "Scar"

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led zepp vs spirit on 19:56 - Apr 12 with 3725 viewsted_hendrix

led zepp vs spirit on 19:36 - Apr 12 by WrightUp5hit___

Kaptain Kopter = Randy California

As a very young kid he used to gig with Hendrix back in the Café Wha days.

Ed Cassidy, the very tasteful drummer in Spirit was his stepfather
[Post edited 12 Apr 2016 19:37]


Due to my almost insane obsession with Hendrix I have a picture of me stood outside the Cafe Wha in my green and white Hooped Rangers shirt.
Took us ages to find the place but it was worth it, just to be there I suppose.

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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led zepp vs spirit on 07:39 - Apr 13 with 3621 viewsWrightUp5hit___

led zepp vs spirit on 19:56 - Apr 12 by ted_hendrix

Due to my almost insane obsession with Hendrix I have a picture of me stood outside the Cafe Wha in my green and white Hooped Rangers shirt.
Took us ages to find the place but it was worth it, just to be there I suppose.


I'll hold my hand up to that as well.

Felt a bit daft but went and stood outside the Samarkand Hotel for a few minutes on 18th September 1990
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led zepp vs spirit on 09:08 - Apr 13 with 3589 viewsGloryHunter

How does anyone record a twelve-bar blues song without being sued by everyone else who recorded one previously?
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led zepp vs spirit on 09:35 - Apr 13 with 3569 viewsToast_R

led zepp vs spirit on 09:08 - Apr 13 by GloryHunter

How does anyone record a twelve-bar blues song without being sued by everyone else who recorded one previously?


That's true, it's a ridiculous argument. There must be hundreds of songs that have a similar sound.


Listen to this for example, I love the Jam but Start is a complete rip off the Beatles



LA Lawyers would raise a law suite against anyone if there was a sniff of a big payout. The Judus Priest case for example for suicidal lyrics when the record is played backwards at a certain speed and you listen closely. Ridiculous.
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