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Thankfully nearly all my managers in my thirty fours of full time employment have been very good, funny, caring and put up with my lackadaisical attitude to the application of the work ethic.
Apart from one mammoth crunt who made my existence on this planet a spinning top of lava from the arse of Satan.
A man who made his life of knowing f uck all but the length of time someone spent on the toilet was turned into a f ucking spreadsheet. If you had an issue that needed some input from that manager, he’d hold it against you as some sort of individual lapse in your brain.
Everyone hated the crunt. Was booted out after six months after making the entire team miserable and wouldn’t let us talk unless it was about work.
Bike riding, sex tourist, despicable rugger loving cruntchops.
Now I’m back to cruise control and not thinking about much apart from retirement and when I’ll be left the fuk alone.
Retirement Is great, It's almost like being permanently stoned.
Almost.
Not there yet, Ted, but we were out with the cousins a while back for a catch up. One of them retired two years ago and could have done so quite a few years prior because he could afford to. Regrets not packing up earlier, because he loves it. All about spending your time wisely according to him, and he’s right.
Employed friends and potential squeezes of which he did squeeze two ladies regularly and they both were regularly rewarded with large pay rises and allowed more leeway and reduced responsibilities.
People who did most of the work like myself not rewarded correctly for job roles and responsibilities.
He got rid people if he did not like them or they weren't into festivals like himself and regular heavy drinkers.
Joke of a place, I lasted six years, but underneath there was a bubbling resentment.
I actually quit as I was heading into oblivion if I had remained.
Developed a lack of trust in people for a number of years after that buggered me up professionally and personally.
Toxic environment in the extreme .
If I did it again, would have quit at first sign of trouble. Made a massive mistake staying even though did get my mortgage whilst there.
No hierarchy to complain to, meant this guy could do no wrong and had zero accountability for his actions.
destroyed a few of our careers for some time sadly.
Employed friends and potential squeezes of which he did squeeze two ladies regularly and they both were regularly rewarded with large pay rises and allowed more leeway and reduced responsibilities.
People who did most of the work like myself not rewarded correctly for job roles and responsibilities.
He got rid people if he did not like them or they weren't into festivals like himself and regular heavy drinkers.
Joke of a place, I lasted six years, but underneath there was a bubbling resentment.
I actually quit as I was heading into oblivion if I had remained.
Developed a lack of trust in people for a number of years after that buggered me up professionally and personally.
Toxic environment in the extreme .
If I did it again, would have quit at first sign of trouble. Made a massive mistake staying even though did get my mortgage whilst there.
No hierarchy to complain to, meant this guy could do no wrong and had zero accountability for his actions.
destroyed a few of our careers for some time sadly.
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My wife is a care worker, 'charities' can be shit employers. I'm a gardener, have held head gardener roles for the very rich. I find the 'new money' ones can be absolute c***s, while, for me, old money has had better manners. Handed in my notice at one place, sacked me on my final day and have also made me unemployable among their mates, which on a small island........fortunately, decided to set up on my own again after a couple more 'experiences', over my 5 day week have 4 clients, 3 of whom want to have nice gardens, like my vision, and are a pleasure to work with. The fifth is a control freak, which is not conducive to a good garden.
My wife is a care worker, 'charities' can be shit employers. I'm a gardener, have held head gardener roles for the very rich. I find the 'new money' ones can be absolute c***s, while, for me, old money has had better manners. Handed in my notice at one place, sacked me on my final day and have also made me unemployable among their mates, which on a small island........fortunately, decided to set up on my own again after a couple more 'experiences', over my 5 day week have 4 clients, 3 of whom want to have nice gardens, like my vision, and are a pleasure to work with. The fifth is a control freak, which is not conducive to a good garden.
Just for you distortR you old renegade with silly hat:
While I’ve seen more than my fair share of incompetent, ruthless, careerists, I’ve never had a boss that made me want to quit or gave me a hard time luckily.
My personal favourite, as a union rep, was a boss who visited a member the day after he attempted suicide to tell him that suicide wasn’t recognised as a legitimate sick item and he would be deducted pay and undergo disciplinary proceedings.
Also heard a story of a middle manager that rung a woman that had just delivered a stillborn baby after 9 months to ask her if she would consider cancelling her maternity leave as they were short staffed.
While I’ve seen more than my fair share of incompetent, ruthless, careerists, I’ve never had a boss that made me want to quit or gave me a hard time luckily.
My personal favourite, as a union rep, was a boss who visited a member the day after he attempted suicide to tell him that suicide wasn’t recognised as a legitimate sick item and he would be deducted pay and undergo disciplinary proceedings.
Also heard a story of a middle manager that rung a woman that had just delivered a stillborn baby after 9 months to ask her if she would consider cancelling her maternity leave as they were short staffed.
Not there yet, Ted, but we were out with the cousins a while back for a catch up. One of them retired two years ago and could have done so quite a few years prior because he could afford to. Regrets not packing up earlier, because he loves it. All about spending your time wisely according to him, and he’s right.
Bang on!
Sat down with Mrs PH a couple of years ago in Doha where we were living at the time, crunched some numbers, said how we felt about the world and the work we'd been doing. My work and travels had exposed me to much of the wretchedness of human behaviour around the world and I said f.. k it!
Big call for us: me at 55 and her younger. Although we still do a bit of consulting, our lives are so drastically different as to be totally unrecognisable to what they were before. No work annoyance - I don't do stress intentionally, but it creeps in - no meaningless reports, no one to answer to, no holding your tongue, no work annoyances, no effing airports and flying hither and tither have all made for a far more relaxed PlanetHonneywood.
We now cut our cloth accordingly, and my only advice: whatever you do, keep the legs, the heart, and the mind moving. That said, life does need a purpose to get you out of bed and while I've not really found it yet for this phase of my life, it's more fun to be looking for it than at the clock at the end of the weekend and sighing about 'work tomorrow '.
Oh and I echo the advice above: join a trade union!
'Always In Motion' by John Honney available on amazon.co.uk
While I’ve seen more than my fair share of incompetent, ruthless, careerists, I’ve never had a boss that made me want to quit or gave me a hard time luckily.
My personal favourite, as a union rep, was a boss who visited a member the day after he attempted suicide to tell him that suicide wasn’t recognised as a legitimate sick item and he would be deducted pay and undergo disciplinary proceedings.
Also heard a story of a middle manager that rung a woman that had just delivered a stillborn baby after 9 months to ask her if she would consider cancelling her maternity leave as they were short staffed.
Along similar lines, another charity I worked for, attending a funeral even if it was a parent or partner, policy was set to have to book it as annual leave and get back as soon as.
Man in charge, was in his 60s and never married and very close to his parents who were both very much alive at the time.
Was not there when he would have experienced loss but wonder if there was a special circumstance in his case !!
While I’ve seen more than my fair share of incompetent, ruthless, careerists, I’ve never had a boss that made me want to quit or gave me a hard time luckily.
My personal favourite, as a union rep, was a boss who visited a member the day after he attempted suicide to tell him that suicide wasn’t recognised as a legitimate sick item and he would be deducted pay and undergo disciplinary proceedings.
Also heard a story of a middle manager that rung a woman that had just delivered a stillborn baby after 9 months to ask her if she would consider cancelling her maternity leave as they were short staffed.
Had two over the years that were complete wet wipes.
My first job, had a supervisor who looked like a little rat and made the trainees life as hard as he could. I handed in my notice and then went to see him to land one on him but was stopped by two of the other trainees who were there. The second was years later in my late 40's. An absolute caaant of a man. Phil England. He got the boot from the hierarchy in Germany and sneaked off. He had a year previously given me a written warning for taking holidays at short notice. They were taken as my parents were taken into Hospital A + E. Appealed it but was told they wouldn't override it as he was new in the position. If I had bumped into him before he had sneaked off I would have gone for him.
While I’ve seen more than my fair share of incompetent, ruthless, careerists, I’ve never had a boss that made me want to quit or gave me a hard time luckily.
My personal favourite, as a union rep, was a boss who visited a member the day after he attempted suicide to tell him that suicide wasn’t recognised as a legitimate sick item and he would be deducted pay and undergo disciplinary proceedings.
Also heard a story of a middle manager that rung a woman that had just delivered a stillborn baby after 9 months to ask her if she would consider cancelling her maternity leave as they were short staffed.
Those examples Bazz make me feel sick. How could anyone so cruel get to stay in their jobs. Having said that it often goes hand in hand with weak senior management who won't challenge these w*nkers. The morale in these places is always through the floor and it massively affects people's willingness to go the extra mile.
I have had a few useless managers. The worst place was where they treated the female staff as their own personal knocking shop. Anyone who didn't want to sleep with them got treated like a piece of sh*t. One night, working late while everyone else had gone home, the senior director came round to find me. Thought, how nice he wants to offer some encouraging words/offer advice etc. No, wanted me to go and make him a coffee (I was not an office junior/his secretary). Lovely.
Incidentally not all charities are awful, although I have heard some bad stories too. My son and his girlfriend both work for different charities and they're both wonderful employers and fabulous with clients too. I think it's the ones that are so small they can be run like personal fiefdoms or so big they're more like ruthless corporations that can be really bad.
I've had what I'd describe as crap or not very good bosses but other than my very first job at 16 (which I left after 4 months) nobody I'd call horrible. More the idiots who can't see through employees who brag about themselves beyond their actual capability etc.
Retirement is not something I desire anytime soon. I have a decent job now with very flexible arrangements that mean I work from home almost all the time (one day a fortnight in the office). I also have good managers that I get on with well and who trust what I'm doing enough to keep interference to an absolute minimum. Nothing worse then micro managers. Of course if they move on who knows if the next will be any good.
I worked pretty high up in Procurement and Supply for a large FMCG company. Did 20 years and by the time I was 40 I was burnt out with stress and anxiety. My bosses over the years were usually very good, but the work was relentless. Luckily got voluntary redundancy as I turned 40, and decided to take a much less demanding role due to my wife wanting to go back to work full time as the kids were older. I went and worked on our local trade estate in a shop/warehouse. I could tell the boss was a bully and a c*nt when I saw him shouting at the other staff, and I vowed I wouldn't stand for it if he did it to me. After about a year he turned on me, so I put in a complaint to his line manager, then proceeded (along with other staff) to inform them as to how the manager was stealing from the company (which he was) and all the proof which I had collated over the previous year just in case. He got sacked, and now I have his job. Revenge!
I'm not stressed, and I make sure I have a very happy team.
Those examples Bazz make me feel sick. How could anyone so cruel get to stay in their jobs. Having said that it often goes hand in hand with weak senior management who won't challenge these w*nkers. The morale in these places is always through the floor and it massively affects people's willingness to go the extra mile.
I have had a few useless managers. The worst place was where they treated the female staff as their own personal knocking shop. Anyone who didn't want to sleep with them got treated like a piece of sh*t. One night, working late while everyone else had gone home, the senior director came round to find me. Thought, how nice he wants to offer some encouraging words/offer advice etc. No, wanted me to go and make him a coffee (I was not an office junior/his secretary). Lovely.
Incidentally not all charities are awful, although I have heard some bad stories too. My son and his girlfriend both work for different charities and they're both wonderful employers and fabulous with clients too. I think it's the ones that are so small they can be run like personal fiefdoms or so big they're more like ruthless corporations that can be really bad.
I agree Nix. I now work for two different charities and I could not wish for better managers in both.
His manager was a loud mouth gossip and unbelievably harsh.
The resentment towards her and the ridiculous things she often said or did, built up every day so much.
One particular day, she was walking out of the cafe and passed a cloakroom door which was open.
My friend siezed upon his opportunity and pushed his manager into the cloakroom cupboard and then locked the door. Three hours later, he decided to let her out.
He was fortunate. He got a disciplinary at the time. It was a place for vulnerable people and this lady certainly was in the wrong job.
But when he relayed the story to me, bad i know, but could not help but giggle.
I said to him, he should have been given a promotion - not a disciplinary !! 🤣
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