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In the interests of grim research, and as an antidote to those on here on think that a point in the bag because we have a couple of players missing justifies murdering the game of football (note the manager's scary delight in his post-match interview), I sifted all 23 pages of the match thread on the Stoke City Oatcake Fanzine for some sane balance. (As Nietzsche puts it, you keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.)
Suffice to say, some of the contributions evinced a measure of wit our so-called 'football team' were unable to dredge up in 100 minutes of death-by-football.
'What a horrible team to have to watch. Difficult to break down sure but dull as hell.'
'That is just straight up cheating from the keeper... No one anywhere near him, no twist or stretch, simply sat down so that the manager can have a team talk!'
'Was that a pre planned 20 minute break by QPR?'
'I now know why I don’t like QPR.'
'These lot have got no interest in playing football today. Time wasting, cheating, b*stards.'
'QPR are the only team I've ever seen that are looking to waste time even when in attacking situations.'
'QPR really are an absolute yeast infection of a football team.'
'Genuinely, ever since I was a kid they’ve always been shit, I’m amazed they’re even above League 2.'
'It’s no surprise that a side that has Rhys Norrington-Davies in the lineup are a bunch of clogging sh*thouse w*nkers.'
'The combination of QPR and the ref have made this game almost impossible to watch.'
'Is there a QPR player yet to spend time on his backside "injured"?'
'Someone ought to start a chant of you’re just a sh*t f*cking Millwall.'
'These lot are an absolute disgrace.'
'It's football, but not as we know it.'
'Hope all of QPR’s squad get syphilis. (Harsh on syphillis, wishing it on them.)'
'But that would mean they'd at least get a shag. Maybe typhoid or dysentry?'
'Negative, dire, cynical, turgid sh*tball from QPR.'
'I worry about QPR as a going concern cos who the hell is going to keep buying tickets to watch this sh*t?'
'I wouldn't pay a penny to watch QPR, shocking football team.'
'A textbook anti-football team.'
'That's the first side all season to sit like that all match versus us.'
'QPR, I don't know what they call their style, but it isn't football. Mostly chippy cheap shots then flop and whine in front of a parked bus.'
'If you’re a QPR fan you would be totally embarrassed at that performance.'
'I imagine their team coach will go home in reverse.'
And there you have it, people! If you're a QPR fan and that doesn't make you put your head in your hands for the rest of the weekend, I don't know what to say to you. As the usual suspects on here love to cluster together and tell me why I need to listen to the self-appointed consensus of 'adults in the room' because, apparently, I'm delusional if I don't, I'm sure they'll be only too pleased to apply the same logic here. Hell might be other people, but, as I've been told, when other people (and especially, of all people, Stoke fans, who've hardly been reared on Barcaball) are telling you you're a stain on the game, it's time to wake up and see the bigger picture.
Stoke weren't much cop, for sure, but at least if they'd won 3-1 as they still deserved to, we might have been spared the toe-curling post-match bullshit about our 'resilience'. Personally, on aesthetic grounds (newsflash - football is entertainment), I'd rather we sink down the table into League One playing 'football' like that. (For the same reason, I still feel hurt to this day that the team that played all the football in the 1982 FA Cup Replay didn't win.)
In the end, those who have minds of their own can decide for themselves. A revolt into style or the wretched 'means justify the end'? Points at all cost or the beautiful game? Cynicism or idealism? Whose side are you on? (I'm on QPR's a close second, but football's first.)
Here's my view: After yesterday, JS can shove a baguette where the sun don't shine! And if the owners don't agree, they can choke on merde too.
PS For those attending on Tuesday, I'm sure the Oxford game is going to be a footballing feast!
Major and in some cases life threatening injuries as the glass houses occupied by those who gave us Pulis ball and Rory Delap long throws are destroyed.
Stoke fans crying about shithousing and dull football? Come on, we've all had a drink.
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 11:54 - Jan 18 with 4593 views
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 11:51 - Jan 18 by SydneyRs
Major and in some cases life threatening injuries as the glass houses occupied by those who gave us Pulis ball and Rory Delap long throws are destroyed.
Stoke fans crying about shithousing and dull football? Come on, we've all had a drink.
Even at their most Pulisian, they were never what we sank to yesterday.
Have to agree. I always hate and deride other teams who play the kind of football we did yesterday. When I see us do the same thing, it breaks my heart. I grew up watching Gordon Jago's, and Dave Sexton's teams, and for me at least, their's was the kind of football that made the Rangers, the fantastic football team they undoubtedly were.
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 12:05 - Jan 18 with 4477 views
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 11:58 - Jan 18 by BushRanger82
Have to agree. I always hate and deride other teams who play the kind of football we did yesterday. When I see us do the same thing, it breaks my heart. I grew up watching Gordon Jago's, and Dave Sexton's teams, and for me at least, their's was the kind of football that made the Rangers, the fantastic football team they undoubtedly were.
Sadly, I think our set-up is beyond that kind of shame. It's a travesty.
Yeah…I agree for the most part that we were pretty horrific on the eye yesterday. When Walsh sat down I said to the family around me that this crap has to stop be it a QPR keeper or otherwise . It’s a loophole the authorities have to close in the summer before we all tear our hair out . We stank the place out and have done away from home for a while now in the league . That worries me , more than the antics yesterday .
But….i have to say, any sh*thousing against any corporation Ben Pearson is involved in I can overlook , in an admittedly short sighted blinkered kind of way. He and his Preston mob were responsible for me turning my back on going to football for 18 months or so . I wasn’t wasting my time and money watching a sport that has turned into ‘that’. So he alone deserves a bit of his own medicine.
And secondly , Stoke moaning about that stuff is laughable in itself and I’m not sure I will take too much notice of a bunch of 12 year old Stoke fans anyway …and surprised you have too.
We wrung the neck out the game to the point that they didn’t want 10 mins of injury time either and they threw the towel in. Small, ugly victory I suppose.
But I agree, I don’t want to see that too often . Unfortunately, we are starting too .
[Post edited 18 Jan 12:22]
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 12:17 - Jan 18 with 4414 views
I care even less about what Stoke fans think than I care what you think. And we didn't lose 3-1. We drew 0-0. That's the whole point.
Question: if you're in an "aesthetic minority" of QPR supporters, why do you still persist in supporting them?
Why not support someone more to your "aesthetic" tastes, where you won't be in the minority? You don't go to games, you haven't for a very long time, so your affections are free to be lathered gloriously in awkward flowery adjectives upon, I dunno, Barcelona or Arsenal, teams who play more to your elevated taste - though Arsenal drew 0-0 last night too at relegation-haunted Forest, even with all those extravagant talents. And it wasn't pretty, I must say. Could you cope?
QPR meanwhile have spent a grand total of 23 seasons in the top division. Of those, I'd say they played truly aesthetically pleasing football for around 18 seasons. The last time they did that was, what, 1994-95? Thirty years ago.
Since then, one great second tier season in 2011, 15 years ago. Spent the last decade mostly in a slightly worse condition than now in the second tier of English football, where we've been for 36 seasons in total. Mostly, we've spent our history in the third tier: 46 seasons.
What are you hanging around for? What do you expect? Dave Sexton and Terry Venables are dead, along with Jim Gregory. They're not coming back. And neither are you. Just let us enjoy our simple pleasures, week by week, in the flesh, at the games, without you pompously acting out your anonymous Statler and Waldorf fantasy act on the Internet because 2026 QPR are not "aesthetic" enough for you. Who cares what opposition fans think?
Right, putting you back on mute you wee daftie.
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 12:27 - Jan 18 with 4328 views
Do you “sift through 23 pages” of an opposition message board when we win? Post Leicester or Hull for example? Also, we have a lot more than 2 players out. But on football front, personally I think we are a completely different side with a ball playing centre half. Cook and Dunne defended brilliantly. But we need an Edwards or a JCS alongside Dunne to help us progress up the field better….especially with 2 man central midfield.
Rather than constantly slagging off team and manager after a poor result or performance, would love to know how you think we/JS should be doing things differently to improve our current league position.
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 11:58 - Jan 18 by BushRanger82
Have to agree. I always hate and deride other teams who play the kind of football we did yesterday. When I see us do the same thing, it breaks my heart. I grew up watching Gordon Jago's, and Dave Sexton's teams, and for me at least, their's was the kind of football that made the Rangers, the fantastic football team they undoubtedly were.
That's what I grew up watching as well and yesterday's performance was the opposite if that. I know there are injured players missing, but there was still enough in the squad to have gone out to try and play rather than ×hithousing for much of the game.
When teams come to QPR and do what they did yesterday we fans would be feeling the same as the Stoke fans do. Remember Blackpool a few seasons ago when they came and won 1-0 .
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 13:15 - Jan 18 with 3956 views
My reply would be "Welcome to how we've seen Stoke play for the last 50 years!"
I don't like that over the past few seasons we've become as hard to watch as Stoke & Preston have been, but I'm certainly not having a fan of one of those clubs lecturing us about it.
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 13:41 - Jan 18 with 3814 views
Yes I agree rangers have usually play nice football and entertaining to boot. Child of the 80s for reference. But it comes down to the result on Wednesday get a win then a point away at stoke looks different relatively. Also if we make the playoffs by a point then this will have made the season. Hindsight is great but who has it at the right time its a draw better than getting smashed . Let's see how the season goes. Some big games coming up. Am sure we managed to draw or win nasty in our promotional seasons ?
[Post edited 18 Jan 23:10]
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 13:57 - Jan 18 with 3724 views
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 12:17 - Jan 18 by TK1
I care even less about what Stoke fans think than I care what you think. And we didn't lose 3-1. We drew 0-0. That's the whole point.
Question: if you're in an "aesthetic minority" of QPR supporters, why do you still persist in supporting them?
Why not support someone more to your "aesthetic" tastes, where you won't be in the minority? You don't go to games, you haven't for a very long time, so your affections are free to be lathered gloriously in awkward flowery adjectives upon, I dunno, Barcelona or Arsenal, teams who play more to your elevated taste - though Arsenal drew 0-0 last night too at relegation-haunted Forest, even with all those extravagant talents. And it wasn't pretty, I must say. Could you cope?
QPR meanwhile have spent a grand total of 23 seasons in the top division. Of those, I'd say they played truly aesthetically pleasing football for around 18 seasons. The last time they did that was, what, 1994-95? Thirty years ago.
Since then, one great second tier season in 2011, 15 years ago. Spent the last decade mostly in a slightly worse condition than now in the second tier of English football, where we've been for 36 seasons in total. Mostly, we've spent our history in the third tier: 46 seasons.
What are you hanging around for? What do you expect? Dave Sexton and Terry Venables are dead, along with Jim Gregory. They're not coming back. And neither are you. Just let us enjoy our simple pleasures, week by week, in the flesh, at the games, without you pompously acting out your anonymous Statler and Waldorf fantasy act on the Internet because 2026 QPR are not "aesthetic" enough for you. Who cares what opposition fans think?
Right, putting you back on mute you wee daftie.
In the league table of patronising pillocks, you win the Championship every year.
What's wrong with being a minority? Better that than being in a majority with pompous, judgmental beings like you. You almost seem glad that the likes of Sexton and Venables are dead. The quesiton is on the other foot: assuming you're a grown adult, why did you start supporting QPR in the first place? I did so because I loved the team, the style, the coaching, the ground, the underdog courage. That's because I have, and had, footballing values. You have - what? Bile and drain-circling 'pragmatism'.
Not everyone on that Stoke message board is 12, even if this one seems to have more than its fair share of those who are - biologically or mentally.
And your idea about transferring allegaiances just shows you don't understand what being a football supporter is, so I can only conclude you're not one.
Do us all a favour, and don't respond to my threads again!
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 12:15 - Jan 18 by mart_Goblin
Yeah…I agree for the most part that we were pretty horrific on the eye yesterday. When Walsh sat down I said to the family around me that this crap has to stop be it a QPR keeper or otherwise . It’s a loophole the authorities have to close in the summer before we all tear our hair out . We stank the place out and have done away from home for a while now in the league . That worries me , more than the antics yesterday .
But….i have to say, any sh*thousing against any corporation Ben Pearson is involved in I can overlook , in an admittedly short sighted blinkered kind of way. He and his Preston mob were responsible for me turning my back on going to football for 18 months or so . I wasn’t wasting my time and money watching a sport that has turned into ‘that’. So he alone deserves a bit of his own medicine.
And secondly , Stoke moaning about that stuff is laughable in itself and I’m not sure I will take too much notice of a bunch of 12 year old Stoke fans anyway …and surprised you have too.
We wrung the neck out the game to the point that they didn’t want 10 mins of injury time either and they threw the towel in. Small, ugly victory I suppose.
But I agree, I don’t want to see that too often . Unfortunately, we are starting too .
[Post edited 18 Jan 12:22]
But, Mart, if you'd turned your back on football as a result of Pearson, why would you put up watching QPR doing the same?
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 12:27 - Jan 18 by JamesB1979
Do you “sift through 23 pages” of an opposition message board when we win? Post Leicester or Hull for example? Also, we have a lot more than 2 players out. But on football front, personally I think we are a completely different side with a ball playing centre half. Cook and Dunne defended brilliantly. But we need an Edwards or a JCS alongside Dunne to help us progress up the field better….especially with 2 man central midfield.
Rather than constantly slagging off team and manager after a poor result or performance, would love to know how you think we/JS should be doing things differently to improve our current league position.
I do quite often look at other clubs' message boards, actually, win or lose. I did so more attentively this time, because (in my view) there's a crucial argument to be had about footballing values after yesterday's horrorshow (worse than Ainsworthball at Burnley, who were at least top of the league, and somehow we won), given some of the defences of our tawdry point by both LfWers and manager. And I stand by that, whatever personal abuse I get for it.
It's funny when you confront people with reality/research that f*cks with their blue and white specs they can't take it. And instructive.
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:02 - Jan 18 by stainrods_elbow
I do quite often look at other clubs' message boards, actually, win or lose. I did so more attentively this time, because (in my view) there's a crucial argument to be had about footballing values after yesterday's horrorshow (worse than Ainsworthball at Burnley, who were at least top of the league, and somehow we won), given some of the defences of our tawdry point by both LfWers and manager. And I stand by that, whatever personal abuse I get for it.
It's funny when you confront people with reality/research that f*cks with their blue and white specs they can't take it. And instructive.
Yet you never say anything constructive. What should the club and manager be doing?
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:06 - Jan 18 with 3663 views
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 13:15 - Jan 18 by terryb
My reply would be "Welcome to how we've seen Stoke play for the last 50 years!"
I don't like that over the past few seasons we've become as hard to watch as Stoke & Preston have been, but I'm certainly not having a fan of one of those clubs lecturing us about it.
My only regret from yesterday is that we didn't nick a late goal.
This seasons stats - goals scored and conceded, Xg for and against, shots etc etc all tell you that QPR are generally a more attacking and less defensive team than Stoke. Only three teams have scored more than us.
So I am not about to take any notice of Stoke criticisms about yesterday's match. There again I am a faithful and a QPR supporter.
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:08 - Jan 18 with 3646 views
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:02 - Jan 18 by stainrods_elbow
I do quite often look at other clubs' message boards, actually, win or lose. I did so more attentively this time, because (in my view) there's a crucial argument to be had about footballing values after yesterday's horrorshow (worse than Ainsworthball at Burnley, who were at least top of the league, and somehow we won), given some of the defences of our tawdry point by both LfWers and manager. And I stand by that, whatever personal abuse I get for it.
It's funny when you confront people with reality/research that f*cks with their blue and white specs they can't take it. And instructive.
FKA AcidPixie
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:08 - Jan 18 with 3625 views
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:04 - Jan 18 by JamesB1979
Yet you never say anything constructive. What should the club and manager be doing?
1. Play (some) football - or at least try to.
2. Stop cheating (and get rid of a coach who coaches his team to cheat).
3. Pass the ball to one of your own team once in a while.
4. Try taking a shot on target in the 90 minutes!
5. Get up the pitch for more than 2 minutes in added time.
6. Treat the game, and the fans, with - whisper it - some respect.
How that's for starters if you want 'constructive'?
Alternatively, put that uber-cynical slop out there, upset anyone who cares about football and QPR, and then defend it in your post-match presser. Which I guess you'd prefer.
I’ll take the point and move on. Gutted our boy Adamson didn’t rifle in that late chance for the ultimate smash n grab (something that has happened to us numerous times over the years and will again).
Reading those comments has only made the point earned by our depleted squad even sweeter. So, thanks……. Sort of.
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:10 - Jan 18 with 3607 views
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:06 - Jan 18 by Spaghetti_Hoops
My only regret from yesterday is that we didn't nick a late goal.
This seasons stats - goals scored and conceded, Xg for and against, shots etc etc all tell you that QPR are generally a more attacking and less defensive team than Stoke. Only three teams have scored more than us.
So I am not about to take any notice of Stoke criticisms about yesterday's match. There again I am a faithful and a QPR supporter.
But 'faithful' to what exactly? To defending the indefensible? We've seen this on the road again and again this season - or haven't you been watching? Yesterday was a nadir, but it'd been coming with these goons.
PS We're also comfortably in the bottom half both for away goals scored and conceded away from home - do your research!
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:09 - Jan 18 by Lblock
Sjoke fans?
Fcuk em!
I’ll take the point and move on. Gutted our boy Adamson didn’t rifle in that late chance for the ultimate smash n grab (something that has happened to us numerous times over the years and will again).
Reading those comments has only made the point earned by our depleted squad even sweeter. So, thanks……. Sort of.
this thread just made me think drinking is a bad idea instead of other recreational fun lol
[Post edited 19 Jan 19:15]
FKA AcidPixie
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Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:22 - Jan 18 with 3543 views
Stoke fans on QPR (whose side are you on?) on 14:08 - Jan 18 by stainrods_elbow
1. Play (some) football - or at least try to.
2. Stop cheating (and get rid of a coach who coaches his team to cheat).
3. Pass the ball to one of your own team once in a while.
4. Try taking a shot on target in the 90 minutes!
5. Get up the pitch for more than 2 minutes in added time.
6. Treat the game, and the fans, with - whisper it - some respect.
How that's for starters if you want 'constructive'?
Alternatively, put that uber-cynical slop out there, upset anyone who cares about football and QPR, and then defend it in your post-match presser. Which I guess you'd prefer.
[Post edited 18 Jan 14:12]
You really are the master of staying the bleeding obvious. It’s obviously that simple and everyone else is just stupid. How do we do that? Change formation? Change players? Manager???
We went with a significantly depleted squad. We lack a progressive ball playing centre half. Hopefully Edwards will change that. That for me will make a big difference. Also I’d say Thomas and Jun Ho are significantly better players than we have available currently. We are struggling away currently, we had to try and reverse that. Finding a solution to these things takes time and especially when we have so many injuries. We’re 11th.
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