| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 07:51 - Sep 11 with 3838 views | M40R |
Great report for what was a frustrating game. I don't think I've seen such good possession for a long time but nothing in the final part against very poor opposition who spent much of the second half in defensive mode.
The injuries must be bad if Jimmy is also on the list. Agree with the Adamson remarks: let's hope he can continue his improvement.
Just hoping we might do well on Saturday against a team that will be leaving more space.
Oh, and it was clearly offside from the side on angle. |  | |  |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 07:52 - Sep 11 with 3832 views | rottcodd |
Every team has injuries owing to the schedule. Every manager in the League is moaning about it. Not specific to Rangers. | | | |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 07:58 - Sep 11 with 3815 views | Northernr |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 07:52 - Sep 11 by rottcodd |
Every team has injuries owing to the schedule. Every manager in the League is moaning about it. Not specific to Rangers. |
Have they all been beset with injuries for the last two years as well? |  | | |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:04 - Sep 11 with 3793 views | stevec |
5 games in 14 days closely followed by 21 days holiday is insane. Wonder if EFL clubs should be given the opportunity to move one of these midweek games to the internationals period, can’t imagine us or Charlton would be majorly affected, probably would have had and kept Leaburn, Jimmy and Lamptey on the field and maybe a few extra from our respective injured lists. All running about rather than the canter that was Wednesdays game.
Think there’s more to this though than our medical team. Banning slide tackles, essentially, may have stopped a few broken bones but constantly tackling standing up at speed is a recipe for torn muscles, hamstrings and ACL’s.
How much do we know about synthetic fibres partially sown into grass pitches? By design they are meant to be immovable. Any sport with studs in boots needs the earth and grass to move, as it did in the days when muscle injuries were far less prevalent. Not sure it’s in the football authorities interest to find out.
And let’s not forget, every club seems to be having similar issues. |  | | |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:07 - Sep 11 with 3782 views | dm97 |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 07:52 - Sep 11 by rottcodd |
Every team has injuries owing to the schedule. Every manager in the League is moaning about it. Not specific to Rangers. |
The number of games we play hasn’t changed in the last 4/5 years. The injury record of this club has undeniably got worse since Cifuentes first season. You can’t just point at the schedule and pretend it’s not a problem.
The gaslighting around this issue is astonishing. |  | | |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:09 - Sep 11 with 3767 views | rottcodd |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 07:58 - Sep 11 by Northernr |
Have they all been beset with injuries for the last two years as well? |
No, but the jury should surely still be out on whether this is endemic to Rangers or a current industry-wide epidemic.
Re. rotation, West Brom have so far used every player in their squad bar one, apparently. It could be our second XI vs their reserves on Saturday. | | | |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:17 - Sep 11 with 3730 views | rottcodd |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:07 - Sep 11 by dm97 |
The number of games we play hasn’t changed in the last 4/5 years. The injury record of this club has undeniably got worse since Cifuentes first season. You can’t just point at the schedule and pretend it’s not a problem.
The gaslighting around this issue is astonishing. |
The club itself admitted it was a problem before the season started. It also seems clear the club is trying new strategies to manage fitness (e.g. stronger squad and rotating players/managing minutes played).
One thing i have noticed is our players seem to be asking to come off early rather than try to run off injuries (Jimmy Dunne excepted on Wednesday). That may be the bench instruction to not turn niggles into long-term absences? [Post edited 11 Sep 8:18]
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| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:18 - Sep 11 with 3724 views | GaryBannister86 |
Good description of the Smyth one on one. Although the away end rose and bounced with that fantastic level of anticipation before an impending golden chance....we also all knew that with Paul it was hardly a given. Never really looked right with his feet.
As it is the great Johnny Spencer's birthday today, brought comparisons to him in that first season. I think it was at Maine Road when he went clear in similar fashion and I swear that the away end was already taunting the home fans, long before he had even taken a shot. You just knew he would score. He was so clinical that season. He was indeed the fkcing man, even if it was just for a short while. Imagine not reaching the playoffs with him up front. |  | | |
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| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:30 - Sep 11 with 3648 views | NewYorkRanger |
there was a thread on here about the Skids recently wasn't there? |  |
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| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:41 - Sep 11 with 3573 views | superhoopaus |
Thanks Clive, another excellent report.
Read something on here the last couple of days asking why we don’t just go to four 20 team leagues underneath the Premier League.
That would drop clubs from playing 46 league games down to 38. In theory it should raise the standard a bit and cut down on the injury list for a lot of teams. Probably wouldn’t make much difference to us given how we usually manage the squad, but the principle still makes sense.
Curious what others think. Is it just the usual more clubs = more money argument that stops it happening, or is there something else I’m missing? | |
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| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:45 - Sep 11 with 3549 views | Northernr |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:41 - Sep 11 by superhoopaus |
Thanks Clive, another excellent report.
Read something on here the last couple of days asking why we don’t just go to four 20 team leagues underneath the Premier League.
That would drop clubs from playing 46 league games down to 38. In theory it should raise the standard a bit and cut down on the injury list for a lot of teams. Probably wouldn’t make much difference to us given how we usually manage the squad, but the principle still makes sense.
Curious what others think. Is it just the usual more clubs = more money argument that stops it happening, or is there something else I’m missing? |
They actually proposed this when Shaun Harvey was league CEO. It was about the only good idea he had. 20-team leagues, fewer midweeks, regionalised at lower levels. Got voted down. | | | |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 09:12 - Sep 11 with 3389 views | nix |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:17 - Sep 11 by rottcodd |
The club itself admitted it was a problem before the season started. It also seems clear the club is trying new strategies to manage fitness (e.g. stronger squad and rotating players/managing minutes played).
One thing i have noticed is our players seem to be asking to come off early rather than try to run off injuries (Jimmy Dunne excepted on Wednesday). That may be the bench instruction to not turn niggles into long-term absences? [Post edited 11 Sep 8:18]
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I noticed that too. I also wonder if it means that they don’t make the squad if they have the slightest niggle, which may be the difference from the last two seasons.
It does seem an insane schedule which is asking for problems. In some ways it’s even harder on us because we’re playing ‘easier’ fixtures which means they’re the ones you’re expected to win and also maybe the teams that park the bus and make you work much harder to get the ball up the pitch.
But the injury situation has to be sorted. I’m hoping at least some of these absences are precautionary but it’s a big worry. |  | | |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 09:33 - Sep 11 with 3285 views | Rsole |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:04 - Sep 11 by stevec |
5 games in 14 days closely followed by 21 days holiday is insane. Wonder if EFL clubs should be given the opportunity to move one of these midweek games to the internationals period, can’t imagine us or Charlton would be majorly affected, probably would have had and kept Leaburn, Jimmy and Lamptey on the field and maybe a few extra from our respective injured lists. All running about rather than the canter that was Wednesdays game.
Think there’s more to this though than our medical team. Banning slide tackles, essentially, may have stopped a few broken bones but constantly tackling standing up at speed is a recipe for torn muscles, hamstrings and ACL’s.
How much do we know about synthetic fibres partially sown into grass pitches? By design they are meant to be immovable. Any sport with studs in boots needs the earth and grass to move, as it did in the days when muscle injuries were far less prevalent. Not sure it’s in the football authorities interest to find out.
And let’s not forget, every club seems to be having similar issues. |
We used to have a plastic pitch and third degree burns to knees were a thing then but the slide tackles continued.
Prior to that the ‘grass’ pitch was much worse than it is currently, hence the switch. Maybe it’s a contributing factor but I wouldn’t say it’s the main cause.
Buying pre-injured players definitely is and keeping them In condition is clearly a challenge. Sam Field was one of the few exceptions and we sold him.
We can keep claiming budget constraints, regulation etc but if players can’t play regularly I’m not sure they are the assets we think they are. Need to rebalance the balance sheet on that front somehow. |  |
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| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 10:54 - Sep 11 with 3016 views | bosh67 |
Superb report.
When you have Edwards (Roeder Mk2) and Kamara (Derry Mk2) in the side you're probably going to be okay most weeks until inevitably they are the only two players available to play.
Kolli was injured some weeks ago but the fact that basically our one and only home grown success (who actually scores goals) is consigned to the stands watching the game with fans is wholly unacceptable.
If Jude the cat is on the bench ahead of him for Saturday serious questions need to be asked. If Nourry or anyone has a real problem with him they need to get over that for the good of the team. For the good of the fans. Otherwise why wasn't he allowed to move on and why would we pay a player's wages and then not allow him to actually play? |  |
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| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 12:34 - Sep 11 with 2675 views | thehat |
Love this Clive - More wonderful nuggets to bring a smile over my morning coffee.
Need to somehow bite the bullet and sort the Kolli situation out. Our history shows we are a club that can manage flawed players and mavericks.
Just get him fit and involved - the squad need him - especially now. | | | |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 13:11 - Sep 11 with 2546 views | KensalT |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 08:45 - Sep 11 by Northernr |
They actually proposed this when Shaun Harvey was league CEO. It was about the only good idea he had. 20-team leagues, fewer midweeks, regionalised at lower levels. Got voted down. |
It is a good idea. But clubs just see it as lost revenue and won't vote for it. |  | | |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 14:19 - Sep 11 with 2313 views | PhilmyRs |
Great report and very much how I, and a lot of the support saw it.
Agree with you on Adamson. He’s playing better than I expected, and really sticking to his job, as 5th choice full back, you can’t expect more than that. Well done to him. But as you say, we do miss some attacking threat when he’s there. The marauding Mbengue (for the short time he was on) was looking a lot more dangerous. He’s still young though, so with confidence and time, could yet develop this side of his game.
Felt to me, controlling the game, having so much of the ball and playing some lovely stuff, it was the players that aren’t very technical (Smyth/Lloyd) that really struggled. Vale was the interesting one, and think Dave Mc summed him up perfectly before the season started to be more than just a “moments player”. At the moment, excuse the pun, he remains just that. Capable of brilliance but dispersed too frequently with poor decision making.
Ronnie back at centre back, and Mads and Kamara looking tidy in the middle, is that the end of the Ronnie as a holding midfielder experiment? I know from the transfer review chat, there was some disagreement on where he would be best long term but the Dunne injury may just have decided that.
Kolli, Burrell, Kone. In theory is 3 decent strikers at this level. A squad with those 3, plus midfield options if you’re playing with just one up is very promising and gives squad depth. Just feels such a waste not having him available. | | | |
| The Valley casts familiar shadow over QPR’s bright start – Report on 18:25 - Sep 11 with 1839 views | MrSheen |
Having spent most of my adult life screaming “win some second balls, FFS Rangers”, it’s amazing to actually see them do it so consistently at last. Hail Kamara the human Roomba, gilding effortlessly through and around everyone’s legs.
What’s happened to Oliver Skipp? He’s collapsed the traditional 20-year professional career arc of eager young whippet to paunchy, balding and running a pub into three or four. |  | | |
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