| QPR fans win case against QPR on 14:08 - Apr 15 with 5383 views | paulparker |
Good on both of them , the club acted disgracefully (no change there ) and they wonder why a few lairy stewards got a deserved slap at the Wigan game last year
QPR should give these lads season tickets for life as compo |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 14:16 - Apr 15 with 5345 views | Hayesender |
Still going on with East European thugs dressed in hi-vis jackets |  |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 14:43 - Apr 15 with 5238 views | johncharles |
I'm really surprised. I've never seen seen the stewards take any kind of action at all, except move away from a dodgy situation.
Well done you lads. |  |
| Strong and stable my arse. |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 16:00 - Apr 15 with 5073 views | loftboy |
I was one of the 9 witnesses who backed Bob up, the steward was a complete dick head |  |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 16:08 - Apr 15 with 5045 views | toboboly |
Thing is that the club has been contacted numerous times by supporters regarding how poor the stewards are and they have never given a flying fck. Now it is costing the club lots and lots of money you would think they would sort this out sharp. Doubt it though.
Well done to those who stood up against the bullying of the stewards and the club. |  |
| Sexy Asian dwarves wanted. |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 16:14 - Apr 15 with 5030 views | Stanisgod |
I would have like to have seen the cowardly Baster@ds wade into the 1700 Chelsea fans on Sunday and tell them to sit down, or they not the odds they like? |  |
| It's being so happy that keeps me going. |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 16:48 - Apr 15 with 4927 views | Lblock |
The club will role out "We are in contract with Gold Range / Thugs' R Us / One Brain Cell Safety Limited or whoever and they are powerless.
Bull.
They must surely at least be stepping these costs down by 3rd party claims.
If not termination of their Contract must surely be the only way.
It's the same up and down the country -- WBA stewards the worst I've seen lately. Apparently their backs are superglued to the low fence between home and away fans and wouldn't you know it they can only ever face the away end.
Modern day football just gets worse and worse. |  |
| Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:12 - Apr 15 with 4858 views | Antti_Heinola |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 16:48 - Apr 15 by Lblock |
The club will role out "We are in contract with Gold Range / Thugs' R Us / One Brain Cell Safety Limited or whoever and they are powerless.
Bull.
They must surely at least be stepping these costs down by 3rd party claims.
If not termination of their Contract must surely be the only way.
It's the same up and down the country -- WBA stewards the worst I've seen lately. Apparently their backs are superglued to the low fence between home and away fans and wouldn't you know it they can only ever face the away end.
Modern day football just gets worse and worse. |
didn't the club get rid of gold range after many complaints?
not defending the club at all, they've clearly acted poorly and/or lazily here. But as the end of the article hints at, stewarding must be a really difficult issue. Clubs outsource it, so of course those companies go for cheap labour, and not many people are likely to fancy being a steward at a football match - you're really on a hiding to nothing there, so you get bad eggs like the ones in these cases. What's the solution? |  |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:29 - Apr 15 with 4818 views | toboboly |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:12 - Apr 15 by Antti_Heinola |
didn't the club get rid of gold range after many complaints?
not defending the club at all, they've clearly acted poorly and/or lazily here. But as the end of the article hints at, stewarding must be a really difficult issue. Clubs outsource it, so of course those companies go for cheap labour, and not many people are likely to fancy being a steward at a football match - you're really on a hiding to nothing there, so you get bad eggs like the ones in these cases. What's the solution? |
The club employing it's own personnel and making them accountable. They can still use students/0 hours contracts etc but then there is a clear line to club and employee. | |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:33 - Apr 15 with 4799 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:12 - Apr 15 by Antti_Heinola |
didn't the club get rid of gold range after many complaints?
not defending the club at all, they've clearly acted poorly and/or lazily here. But as the end of the article hints at, stewarding must be a really difficult issue. Clubs outsource it, so of course those companies go for cheap labour, and not many people are likely to fancy being a steward at a football match - you're really on a hiding to nothing there, so you get bad eggs like the ones in these cases. What's the solution? |
I don't want to get all socialist on you but they should bring it in house, then pay and train stewards properly.
The cost to staff match days is probably around what SWP has in his car ash tray. |  | | |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:44 - Apr 15 with 4773 views | Northernr |
Good.
Clubs should get down to Cardiff, where they've found that deliberately friendly, welcoming stewarding - down to them wearing the away team's club colours in the away end - has resulted in a dramatic reduction in crowd trouble. Dckhead stewards cause more problems than they solve. |  | | |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:50 - Apr 15 with 4754 views | Snipper |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:44 - Apr 15 by Northernr |
Good.
Clubs should get down to Cardiff, where they've found that deliberately friendly, welcoming stewarding - down to them wearing the away team's club colours in the away end - has resulted in a dramatic reduction in crowd trouble. Dckhead stewards cause more problems than they solve. |
The Cardiff stewards in our Championship winning season were brilliant. They treated us all with respect and it was reciprocated. |  | | |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 18:10 - Apr 15 with 4689 views | GetMeRangers |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:44 - Apr 15 by Northernr |
Good.
Clubs should get down to Cardiff, where they've found that deliberately friendly, welcoming stewarding - down to them wearing the away team's club colours in the away end - has resulted in a dramatic reduction in crowd trouble. Dckhead stewards cause more problems than they solve. |
That is an excellent idea |  | | |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 18:13 - Apr 15 with 4683 views | Antti_Heinola |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:33 - Apr 15 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I don't want to get all socialist on you but they should bring it in house, then pay and train stewards properly.
The cost to staff match days is probably around what SWP has in his car ash tray. |
is that socialist? seems fair enough to me. | |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 18:37 - Apr 15 with 4615 views | Northernr |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 18:10 - Apr 15 by GetMeRangers |
That is an excellent idea |
It's ridiculous isn't it. Be friendly, treat people with respect, don't dictate where they can and can't go, what they can and can't do, what they can and can't drink and lo and behold they're pleasant back to you.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/how-newly-promoted-
I find it amazing in football just how happy clubs are to overlook best practice taking place elsewhere - in all aspects of the club's operations. | | | |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 18:40 - Apr 15 with 4601 views | MoonshineSteve |
I wrote to Cardiff after that game telling them how good their stewards were. Never written to a club before. |  |
| I am still Steve but no longer in Dagenham. |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 18:52 - Apr 15 with 4566 views | Hayesender |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 18:40 - Apr 15 by MoonshineSteve |
I wrote to Cardiff after that game telling them how good their stewards were. Never written to a club before. |
The Cardiff stewards (and the police) were nothing short of excellent at that 2-2 game.
There wasn't enough buses after to get us all back to the station, but instead of it getting all arsey everyone who was left behind just sat on the grass in the sun and waited till they'd found us another bus.
No issues at all, and all because they'd treated us like people | |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 20:24 - Apr 15 with 4408 views | qprewan |
Note the comment from Dave Webber at the end; he is completely right ; back in the day all qpr stewards were fans; I myself was a steward twice; in the early 80s in the loft terrace and then again in the early 90s in g block. This suited me as at the time I was on the dole but more to the point we all used to join in celebrating goals etc and I can never remember getting into arguments with supporters as at the end of the day we were all fellow fans. If something serious did happen there was a response team which was contracted out but apart from that we were all supporters.
Gradually things changed; gold range were brought into take over certain parts of the ground and then they tried to stop us watching the game which of course we refused to do. Some of us were threatened with the sack for joining in with various protests etc and in the end they contracted it all out.
This system worked well for years but I guess in today's day and age no club would go back to it which is a shame because it worked! |  | | |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 09:55 - Apr 16 with 3982 views | YorkRanger |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 18:37 - Apr 15 by Northernr |
It's ridiculous isn't it. Be friendly, treat people with respect, don't dictate where they can and can't go, what they can and can't do, what they can and can't drink and lo and behold they're pleasant back to you.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/how-newly-promoted-
I find it amazing in football just how happy clubs are to overlook best practice taking place elsewhere - in all aspects of the club's operations. |
Agreed. It is a constant irritation that Stewards at many grounds look at individuals and treat them like something on the bottom of their shoe.
I am not treated that way in any other walk of life |  | | |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 10:35 - Apr 16 with 3934 views | themodfather |
football stewards?
THEY ARE THE NEW HOOLIGANS, who gives them such "powers", virtual arrest? detaining? restraining?
and why is their word taken as gospel?
police around grounds are quite hands off these days, but stewards are very keen to get in and cause incidents. yes sometimes some action, usually a warning word works but they do like to mob around you, take you from eye shot and then remove you.
i saw one incident in f block a few years back, female steward asked a group to sit, all did....she made a comment which caused offence and this led to the concourse being full of police and stewards and then angry fans.
this female steward was known by many fans and had been moved from Q block due to complaints. | | | |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 11:50 - Apr 16 with 3844 views | simmo |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 17:44 - Apr 15 by Northernr |
Good.
Clubs should get down to Cardiff, where they've found that deliberately friendly, welcoming stewarding - down to them wearing the away team's club colours in the away end - has resulted in a dramatic reduction in crowd trouble. Dckhead stewards cause more problems than they solve. |
Must be something about Welsh clubs, remember the steward at Swansea who dealt with a QPR fan going mental by sitting next to him and having a bit of a chat? Not a moments trouble from the guy for the rest of the match and it took one person and some talking. |  |
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 13:32 - Apr 16 with 3735 views | willis1980 |
its not rocket science is it really, treat someone respectfully and 99.99% will reciprocate with the same. Football stadia and new york seem to be amongst the few areas of life where this theory is not implemented.
sadly i think a lot of this harks back to "classism"
on the whole you dont really hear of these type of incidents at lords, where you are treated like a paying customer that deserves respect. 8hrs of drinking has the ability to bring the worst out in people, but you rarely see or hear of a fracas.
go to the football and youre the lump and proletariat that has been branded a potential hooligan/criminal from the moment you purchased a ticket and treated as such by the stewards and authorities. there are moments when you think ive paid half or nearly a full days wages just to be treated like an absolute oik by certain people who wouldnt know manners if they slapped them in the face. Footballs so quick to keep up with modern times in nearly every aspect apart from customer care it seems and given what they charge for the experience it stinks to high heaven.
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 14:17 - Apr 16 with 3676 views | runnermo |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 20:24 - Apr 15 by qprewan |
Note the comment from Dave Webber at the end; he is completely right ; back in the day all qpr stewards were fans; I myself was a steward twice; in the early 80s in the loft terrace and then again in the early 90s in g block. This suited me as at the time I was on the dole but more to the point we all used to join in celebrating goals etc and I can never remember getting into arguments with supporters as at the end of the day we were all fellow fans. If something serious did happen there was a response team which was contracted out but apart from that we were all supporters.
Gradually things changed; gold range were brought into take over certain parts of the ground and then they tried to stop us watching the game which of course we refused to do. Some of us were threatened with the sack for joining in with various protests etc and in the end they contracted it all out.
This system worked well for years but I guess in today's day and age no club would go back to it which is a shame because it worked! |
I can second that - in my youth I was a runner there (hence the pseudonym) and my old man was one of the Chief Stewards who worked alongside Dave Webber. The boys that walked through the steward room week in week out were the same faces, the same fans, who understood the frustrations of the average paying punter. The Thompson protests were always handled amicably from my memory.
Goldrange eroded that over the course of several seasons, the stewards lost the School End, athe gates and then the Lower Loft if I remember right. By that time the writing was on the wall. Not for a second saying the old guard of stewards were perfect; but you're right Ewan, it worked well. But the sheen of professionalism that the Premier League demanded meant that it wasn't good enough, and an SIA license, black bomber jacket and a 'f*ck you' attitude was called for.
Stories like this make me absolutely sick thinking about how it used to be there. |  | | |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 15:55 - Apr 16 with 3600 views | hoopdog |
That woman steward in the 1st case seems very much like the fat old blond Doris sometimes in the loft , a right mouthy bitch always looking for and creating trouble with fans and for the stewards
OOPS jumped the gun , didn't read the (Qpr stewards) post , they've got her sussed out there [Post edited 16 Apr 2015 16:19]
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| QPR fans win case against QPR on 16:58 - Apr 16 with 3532 views | Juzzie |
| QPR fans win case against QPR on 15:55 - Apr 16 by hoopdog |
That woman steward in the 1st case seems very much like the fat old blond Doris sometimes in the loft , a right mouthy bitch always looking for and creating trouble with fans and for the stewards
OOPS jumped the gun , didn't read the (Qpr stewards) post , they've got her sussed out there [Post edited 16 Apr 2015 16:19]
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Possibly the same one in R block about 8 years ago. If one person is indeed causing so much trouble a) there's clearly a pattern b) how have they still got a job?? |  | | |
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