| Babies and toddlers on planes 19:15 - Apr 16 with 26167 views | MancR |
Just back from new York on overnight flight and all children should be on a separate plane, maybe attached and towed like a glider. One family tried to keep 3 kids aged between 6 months and 4 fed, entertained and quiet , they failed miserably :(
Spending thousands flying kids long haul is insane and should be illegal. |  | | |  |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 10:22 - Apr 17 with 2093 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 10:05 - Apr 17 by hoops_legend |
What a miserable bunch of people we have here and so english.. the whole plane should sit in perfect silence the whole journey right? If anyone dares go outside the social boundaries and make a noise we should stare and tut and then complain later in social media!
Kids are kids and if they cry then thats the way it is - if you cant put up with that then you have some serious issues. I will take my one year old on a flight in june and he might cry for 5 mins but i would expect our bubba will get more smiles from passengers than angry people like yourselves..
Ps. Stop being so miserable, enjoy life and accept that kids may cry a little.. what impact ultimately does that have on ypur life |
Very young kids have an especially strong reason to cry on planes. The lower pressure causes a painful imbalance on the eardrum. You can clear that by 'clicking' your ears (it's a slight, back-of-throat movement; or, if necessary, by closing your mouth, holding your nose and trying to breathe out). That opens the Eustachian tubes to the ear and equalises the pressure.
The trouble is, you can't explain that to a baby and you can't do it for them. If they've got an infection at the time it may be doubly painful.
Even as a bloke who raised three kids, a baby's cry goes right through me. But sometimes there's nothing you can do except put up with it and have sympathy all round. |  |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 10:40 - Apr 17 with 2071 views | LythamR |
Lets face it the problem is not so much the kids as the parents, sometimes there is nothing a good parent can do and I do feel very sorry for them and they will be acutely aware of disturbing other passengers, others just dont give a shite. just like the rest of society so it is on planes
It is in my experience relatively easy to avoid the worst of these experiences. most of the time airlines will seat families towards the centre of the plane near the main exists and parents themselves actively try to select these sections for good reason, Quickest exits and strongest part of the plane, statistically the best chance of surviving a crash is in this section. also the best chance to get your meal of choice and least effected by turbulence
Parents with children are almost never placed at the back of the plane but there are problems with the back, the queue for the toilets can extend into the isles, turbulence is exaggerated and you are less likely to get your meal of choice if it a popular one. plus you are less likely to survive a crash
There is a sweet spot for me and on most large airliners its from around the 5th row from the back to maybe the tenth or so, still a good chance you might not get the most popular meal but i learnt a while back that if you select a kosher or hindi meal pre flight you are always going to get it and you generally get served first regardless of your seat and they are generally of decent quality.
Another trick if you can manage it is to deliberately avoid the cheapest airline on a route as a couple with two or three infants are quite likely to be on that one through necessity, |  | | |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 11:22 - Apr 17 with 2022 views | BlackCrowe |
On Long Haul flights avoid the front of economy section, that's where the basinets are for parents to put cribs on are. On short haul, deal with it with noise cancelling ear phones or ear plugs. I repeat it's not a biggie. |  |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 13:01 - Apr 17 with 1976 views | MancR |
I think it's pretty obvious from my OP, with comments like " separate plane towed " and making kids on planes "illegal" that this was a light-hearted thread. I ain't telling people what to do with their kids or saying they shouldn't fly.
On my flight there were a number of upset kids along with parents doing their best to keep things under control- I felt sorry for all concerned.
I don't fly often so won't be buying expensive headphones and if people chose to spend thousands dragging youngsters on long haul flights that's their choice.
I don't think I've said anything nasty but if people want to see it that way, hey ho I suppose that's what can happen on a forum :) | | | |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 13:31 - Apr 17 with 1953 views | enfieldargh |
i think they should ban Hasidic Jews, especially on New York/London flights.
Pushy bastards with loads of kids and I assure you I am no anti-Semite......on the contrary. |  |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 14:21 - Apr 17 with 1912 views | Juzzie |
We took Juzzie Jnr on a medium-haul flight last summer. It wasnt selfish, he had family where we were going to and he was there for a month.
A 3 hour flight, transfer then 5 hour flight and he was as good as gold. Same on the way back, was it luck as Bluce says? Who knows, maybe.
We're going to greece this summer so will find out then how he reacts as he'll be ayear older than before.
I was advised to take a bag of sweets and offer them around to people around us as a way of saying sorry. Thankfully not needed so i scoffed the lot afterwards!
I think it is more about the parents. Dont be selfish, be considrate and engage with the people around you. Youd be surprised how well people react when youre not behaving like a cnt. [Post edited 17 Apr 2016 14:24]
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 16:10 - Apr 17 with 1866 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 19:53 - Apr 16 by HollowayRanger |
totally agree especially babies they do my head in crying and screaming
only comfort I have is if the plane goes down I lasted longer then them
I read a while back that the airlines were thinking of for a small surcharge seating passengers away from small children ,which would mean those that don't pay will be seated with more children in a smaller area where the babies small chidren will set each other off |
Far more annoying than babies and toddlers on planes are the announcements. I get the safety ones before take off etc. After that, shut the fk up and leave us in peace. |  |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 16:27 - Apr 17 with 1849 views | BlackCrowe |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 16:10 - Apr 17 by Antti_Heinola |
Far more annoying than babies and toddlers on planes are the announcements. I get the safety ones before take off etc. After that, shut the fk up and leave us in peace. |
Even more annoying a people who put their seats back on a two hour flight. Short-haul seats should immovable. | |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 16:49 - Apr 17 with 1834 views | PunteR |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 13:01 - Apr 17 by MancR |
I think it's pretty obvious from my OP, with comments like " separate plane towed " and making kids on planes "illegal" that this was a light-hearted thread. I ain't telling people what to do with their kids or saying they shouldn't fly.
On my flight there were a number of upset kids along with parents doing their best to keep things under control- I felt sorry for all concerned.
I don't fly often so won't be buying expensive headphones and if people chose to spend thousands dragging youngsters on long haul flights that's their choice.
I don't think I've said anything nasty but if people want to see it that way, hey ho I suppose that's what can happen on a forum :) |
Deano's comments wound me up MancR,wasn't really yours. He has form on the subject of bringing up kids. Touched a nerve a bit as I'm very thin skinned when it comes to people criticizing parents and there kids unfortunately. There's definitely a case for separating family's to non families on planes or any other mode of transport i suppose and LFW is a good place to chat about it.
Deano is just a troll on drink and drugs.
Not that I have a problem with people on drink and drugs but I do with people trolling on them. [Post edited 17 Apr 2016 16:52]
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 16:57 - Apr 17 with 1825 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Quality tread! |  |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 17:14 - Apr 17 with 1810 views | PunteR |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 16:57 - Apr 17 by BrianMcCarthy |
Quality tread! |
I think I need a break from LFW mate. I'm probably taking things far to personally | |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 17:32 - Apr 17 with 1785 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 17:14 - Apr 17 by PunteR |
I think I need a break from LFW mate. I'm probably taking things far to personally |
Aw man, this thread is a howl. I thought the Rob Green thread was OTT but this one's a fuggin' riot! | |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 20:47 - Apr 17 with 1698 views | wombat |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 17:32 - Apr 17 by BrianMcCarthy |
Aw man, this thread is a howl. I thought the Rob Green thread was OTT but this one's a fuggin' riot! |
I think airlines are missing a trick, massive hold underneath the plane sticks kids play area in there
Everyone's happy then |  |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 20:47 - Apr 17 with 1699 views | OakR |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 10:22 - Apr 17 by isawqpratwcity |
Very young kids have an especially strong reason to cry on planes. The lower pressure causes a painful imbalance on the eardrum. You can clear that by 'clicking' your ears (it's a slight, back-of-throat movement; or, if necessary, by closing your mouth, holding your nose and trying to breathe out). That opens the Eustachian tubes to the ear and equalises the pressure.
The trouble is, you can't explain that to a baby and you can't do it for them. If they've got an infection at the time it may be doubly painful.
Even as a bloke who raised three kids, a baby's cry goes right through me. But sometimes there's nothing you can do except put up with it and have sympathy all round. |
I think eating food replicates this, so we always have some milk and favourite snacks ready for take-off and landing, works for ours. | |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 21:00 - Apr 17 with 1689 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
All the babies and Toddlers I know would be terrible carpenters. [Post edited 17 Apr 2016 21:16]
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 21:22 - Apr 17 with 1658 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 21:00 - Apr 17 by BazzaInTheLoft |
All the babies and Toddlers I know would be terrible carpenters. [Post edited 17 Apr 2016 21:16]
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You'll get hammered for that one. | |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 21:34 - Apr 17 with 1647 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 21:22 - Apr 17 by BrianMcCarthy |
You'll get hammered for that one. |
I saw what you did there! | | | |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 21:44 - Apr 17 with 1636 views | PunteR |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 21:34 - Apr 17 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I saw what you did there! |
That's plane to see. | |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 21:58 - Apr 17 with 1616 views | HollowayRanger |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 16:10 - Apr 17 by Antti_Heinola |
Far more annoying than babies and toddlers on planes are the announcements. I get the safety ones before take off etc. After that, shut the fk up and leave us in peace. |
I know those stewardess don't even blow in the tube now!
apart from wheres the nearest exit what is the point
I mean life jackets ?
how many people have survived a plane crashing into the sea only times I can think of where the one of the coast of Africa and the one that landed on a river in america |  |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 22:07 - Apr 17 with 1602 views | TacticalR |
@HollowayRanger 'I know those stewardess don't even blow in the tube now!'
I think you have to pay extra for that. |  |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 22:29 - Apr 17 with 1573 views | bosh67 |
I was on an overnight flight recently and it was just constant screaming, crying and seat kicking until the woman in front told me to stop it. |  |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 22:35 - Apr 17 with 1555 views | PunteR |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 21:44 - Apr 17 by PunteR |
That's plane to see. |
That joke works on two levels... | |
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 22:35 - Apr 17 with 1554 views | daveB |
really don't understand the problem, i took my kid on a 9 hour flight last year, he was fine quite happy to watch movies the whole way, plenty of other kids on the flight as well with no problem at all. I find some of the comments on here bizarre |  | | |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 22:48 - Apr 17 with 1534 views | Boston |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 08:54 - Apr 17 by CheshireR |
In my experience transatlantic flights are more often disrupted by overweight, overbearing, self-opinionated Americans than by kids.
The airlines seem to deliberately sit them behind me every time. |
I've lost count of how many times I've flown across the Atlantic and not only have I witnessed disruption, including one particularly nasty episode when three Londoners attacked an Hasidic Jew half way through the flight, I also read about or see mention on the local news rather too regularly to lightheartedly dismiss. Most incidents have three common denominators....a/ plane is North America bound, b/ passenger(s) in question are British, c/ alcohol. Jesus, it's virtually a weekly event that police are called to escort drunk and rowdy Brits from American gateway airports, worse still are the number of aircraft diverted to land at Halifax, Nova Scotia because things have got so out of hand! Occasionally, and I mean a dozen or so times a year, the offenders are locked up in a nick in downtown Boston, charged, fined and sent back a couple of days later.
I'll take the U.S. 'overs' over U.K. hangovers any day. [Post edited 17 Apr 2016 22:51]
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| Babies and toddlers on planes on 22:49 - Apr 17 with 1532 views | johncharles |
| Babies and toddlers on planes on 22:35 - Apr 17 by daveB |
really don't understand the problem, i took my kid on a 9 hour flight last year, he was fine quite happy to watch movies the whole way, plenty of other kids on the flight as well with no problem at all. I find some of the comments on here bizarre |
Dave, something I've noticed recently is that people with no no kids or grandchildren have an awful lot to say about the subject whereas you and me just get on with it. |  |
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