| How many do we need? 07:35 - Jul 26 with 4850 views | Gloucs_R |
GK is just the 6 pro keepers enough 🙄
LB or is everyone happy with Wallace and Niko?
RB or is everyone happy with Kakay and Kane?
CB, assuming BFG does go. That leaves Masterson and Barbet, with Cameron and Wallace as back up.
DM need another? Ball and Cameron.
AM to replace Eze.
RW to replace BOS. Not sure Shodipo is good enough.
LW Chair? Replacement for Pugh?
CF x 2? The Danish lad plus two others.
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| How many do we need? on 18:12 - Jul 26 with 1358 views | francisbowles |
| How many do we need? on 17:49 - Jul 26 by DavieQPR |
Still think most of the ins will be ex U23s from Prem clubs. |
We've lost Rangel, Pugh, Hugill, Hall, Leistner and Wells from the squad that started the season. That is a lot of experience and only leaves Cameron and Wallace as senior pros.
We definitely need some older heads in. |  | | |
| How many do we need? on 21:20 - Jul 26 with 1205 views | A40Bosh |
| How many do we need? on 15:26 - Jul 26 by Northernr |
It's not only what we need, it's also what we can realistically get in during the time frame. Season is seven weeks away, transfer window stretches about 10 games deep into that season for us, so we're not going to be able to wait and see until the end of the window quite as much as we have in some recent summers. We'll have to prioritise, both with the money and the time, so you may think Lumley and Kelly are sub standard and need replacing but they're probably not a priority compared to, say, a centre back to go with Barbet and a centre forward to replace Hugill. |
If we accept that Eze is going to go purely based on supposed interest, then we have to hope we can do it quickly, but quietly without fanfare on how much we have received and rely on posters bitching about how little we got, so that the board know the budget they have added to BOS fee.
Then we get a nasty bastard CB who is proven but has pace and Masterson continues to develop.
Then get a proven mid-20s striker who we may have have to shell out on.
Then whatever budget is left whatever Warbs thinks best. |  |
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| How many do we need? on 21:48 - Jul 26 with 1180 views | LazyFan |
Assuming the 3 amigos leave and we need 2 players per position ...
We can live with ...
GK = Lumley, Kelly, Dieng
RB = Kane and now Kakay has come good
CBL = Barbet, Masterson (he's a letter footer)
CBR = BFG (if he goes that's another to replace)
LB = Wallace
DMC = Ball, Cameron
AMC = Chair
LW = Shodpio
RW = Smyth
Of these, I think Wallace, BFG, Smyth and Shodpio are really backups. And Smyth is a stretch.
This means we need ...
CBR
LB
LW
AMC
RW
CF x 2
While Sir Les I think has stated we want a CBR and we know we have bid for K.Moore a CF, it still means we need 7 new players not including those two to have a complete squad. Also noticeable in that lot is that only the AMC position would need backfilling as a cheap/low risk signing as we have Chair. So, all the rest well have to be Champ level. Assuming we get £25m for the 3 sales, let's hope we can spend wisely to get all that lot in !!! Not to mention the squad is a bit young. A tall order for any manager. Good job we have a management team that has only recently done just that!
I would buy the forwards first before the prices all go up once they think we have money. Which it seems is what we are doing. Still, a massive amount of players to bring in just to have cover in each position. Another crazy transfer window for us methinks. And when we fail to get our targets the loans will come in.
I suspect we shall get Hugs back on loan as we did with Naki. And he will come as he thinks he will score goals and we shall be able to bring Wet Spam down on the wages more than this season hopefully. |  |
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| How many do we need? on 03:41 - Jul 27 with 1086 views | timcocking |
| How many do we need? on 07:42 - Jul 26 by ozexile |
Basically everywhere bar GK. |
Accept we haven't actually got a goalie who can save a medium velocity shot straight at him.
Ps Christ it's only a joke, get a bloody sense of humour! People take everything so seriously.
Pps (Not really joking though). |  | | |
| How many do we need? on 03:43 - Jul 27 with 1084 views | timcocking |
Wouldn't it be better to have one decent goalie instead of six who...well, you don't need me to spell it out.
(Come on Joe, we're all on your side really! xxx) [Post edited 27 Jul 2020 3:43]
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| How many do we need? on 07:16 - Jul 27 with 1062 views | Myke |
The 'surprise' experienced head could be...Marc Pugh. Still only 33, fittest member of squad during lockdown and Warburton's a fan. Would allow Chair to play centrally to fill Eze's rather large boots | | | |
| How many do we need? on 09:57 - Jul 27 with 984 views | francisbowles |
| How many do we need? on 21:48 - Jul 26 by LazyFan |
Assuming the 3 amigos leave and we need 2 players per position ...
We can live with ...
GK = Lumley, Kelly, Dieng
RB = Kane and now Kakay has come good
CBL = Barbet, Masterson (he's a letter footer)
CBR = BFG (if he goes that's another to replace)
LB = Wallace
DMC = Ball, Cameron
AMC = Chair
LW = Shodpio
RW = Smyth
Of these, I think Wallace, BFG, Smyth and Shodpio are really backups. And Smyth is a stretch.
This means we need ...
CBR
LB
LW
AMC
RW
CF x 2
While Sir Les I think has stated we want a CBR and we know we have bid for K.Moore a CF, it still means we need 7 new players not including those two to have a complete squad. Also noticeable in that lot is that only the AMC position would need backfilling as a cheap/low risk signing as we have Chair. So, all the rest well have to be Champ level. Assuming we get £25m for the 3 sales, let's hope we can spend wisely to get all that lot in !!! Not to mention the squad is a bit young. A tall order for any manager. Good job we have a management team that has only recently done just that!
I would buy the forwards first before the prices all go up once they think we have money. Which it seems is what we are doing. Still, a massive amount of players to bring in just to have cover in each position. Another crazy transfer window for us methinks. And when we fail to get our targets the loans will come in.
I suspect we shall get Hugs back on loan as we did with Naki. And he will come as he thinks he will score goals and we shall be able to bring Wet Spam down on the wages more than this season hopefully. |
Lazyfan
Masterson is right footed.
Gubbins is left footed and a cb. Hamalainen is left footed and a left back.
Ramkilde is left footed and a forward, Bettache (possibly left footed) a midfielder, Oteh (right footed, I think) a forward or in the three.
All have had some first team experience in the last season and will probably be in our squad, although depending on recruitment, some could be loaned out.
There are other possibilities such as Dalling and the young lad who is injured (sorry forgotten his name) may be available later in the season. | | | |
| How many do we need? on 10:37 - Jul 27 with 940 views | LazyFan |
| How many do we need? on 09:57 - Jul 27 by francisbowles |
Lazyfan
Masterson is right footed.
Gubbins is left footed and a cb. Hamalainen is left footed and a left back.
Ramkilde is left footed and a forward, Bettache (possibly left footed) a midfielder, Oteh (right footed, I think) a forward or in the three.
All have had some first team experience in the last season and will probably be in our squad, although depending on recruitment, some could be loaned out.
There are other possibilities such as Dalling and the young lad who is injured (sorry forgotten his name) may be available later in the season. |
You may be correct on Masterson and I was wrong, but I had it my head he was on the left side regardless of his preferred foot.
As for the others, I am essentially saying they are not ready. And Oteh won't make it. Kakay showed what it takes to make it. True different positions, but Kakay took his chance and Oteh did not, in their respective positions.
Therefore we need to recruit in large numbers if we wish to survive. | |
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| How many do we need? on 10:39 - Jul 27 with 937 views | Myke |
| How many do we need? on 09:57 - Jul 27 by francisbowles |
Lazyfan
Masterson is right footed.
Gubbins is left footed and a cb. Hamalainen is left footed and a left back.
Ramkilde is left footed and a forward, Bettache (possibly left footed) a midfielder, Oteh (right footed, I think) a forward or in the three.
All have had some first team experience in the last season and will probably be in our squad, although depending on recruitment, some could be loaned out.
There are other possibilities such as Dalling and the young lad who is injured (sorry forgotten his name) may be available later in the season. |
I would be very surprised if we try to get as many as eight in, given the time frame and the fact that we completely overhauled the squad last summer. I think four, plus blooding some of the kids will be more realistic I also believe that the 'ins' will be tried and tested players that Warburton knows. For that reason Pugh would not be a surprise. and Amos also. If West Ham supplement his wages again ( as a sweetener for Manning) then Hugill could come back on loan, which would allow Oteh out on loan - critical season for him. I can see Smyth coming back into the squad and Shodipo, if he can stay fit could play a significant role this season. That said, even with Hugill's return, there is no way our attack will be as potent next season if (when) we lose Eze and BOS, so we simply have to tighten up at the back. That means bringing in a dominant (and hopefully mobile) centre- half, but it also means a hell of a lot more work on the training ground. We need to get our goals against column under 60, because it's difficult to see us scoring more than 45 - and that with Hugill. | | | |
| How many do we need? on 11:58 - Jul 27 with 855 views | francisbowles |
| How many do we need? on 10:37 - Jul 27 by LazyFan |
You may be correct on Masterson and I was wrong, but I had it my head he was on the left side regardless of his preferred foot.
As for the others, I am essentially saying they are not ready. And Oteh won't make it. Kakay showed what it takes to make it. True different positions, but Kakay took his chance and Oteh did not, in their respective positions.
Therefore we need to recruit in large numbers if we wish to survive. |
Very quick to write off Oteh. He's only started one game since coming back from loan in January. It's a much harder job leading the line, which I think he is a little small and maybe not suited for, than playing attacking full back.
You may be right, he may not make it. MW may or may not think he can do it. However, he goes into his last year and needs a few more games before us fans, who don't see him in training, can form an objective opinion. He did very well at U23 level, so maybe if he isn't up to the championship, we could at least get a nominal fee with add ons for him from League 1.
Hamalainen, had a very good season at Kilmarnock in the SPL. We have just given him another year. In the event of Manning leaving, I think he will get his chance. Another player we have seen very little of, so difficult to judge. Bettache? Made you mind up about him as well? Gubbins? Yes maybe these last two could go out on loan.
I do agree that we need recruits but I would think a couple of each of defenders, midfielders and strikers, so six including loans should be enough for now. Give some games to our youngsters otherwise how will they develop. | | | |
| How many do we need? on 12:58 - Jul 27 with 807 views | Gloucs_R |
| How many do we need? on 11:58 - Jul 27 by francisbowles |
Very quick to write off Oteh. He's only started one game since coming back from loan in January. It's a much harder job leading the line, which I think he is a little small and maybe not suited for, than playing attacking full back.
You may be right, he may not make it. MW may or may not think he can do it. However, he goes into his last year and needs a few more games before us fans, who don't see him in training, can form an objective opinion. He did very well at U23 level, so maybe if he isn't up to the championship, we could at least get a nominal fee with add ons for him from League 1.
Hamalainen, had a very good season at Kilmarnock in the SPL. We have just given him another year. In the event of Manning leaving, I think he will get his chance. Another player we have seen very little of, so difficult to judge. Bettache? Made you mind up about him as well? Gubbins? Yes maybe these last two could go out on loan.
I do agree that we need recruits but I would think a couple of each of defenders, midfielders and strikers, so six including loans should be enough for now. Give some games to our youngsters otherwise how will they develop. |
Oteh was poor at Bradford. Very average was how he was described to be by someone who follows City and England home and away.
He didn't do anything at Walsall either.
Then MW preferred to use a midfielder upfront rather than a natural striker, I think that tells you everything you need to know.
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| How many do we need? on 13:10 - Jul 27 with 789 views | TheChef |
| How many do we need? on 13:33 - Jul 26 by Hunterhoop |
I hope it’s a pretty uneducated guess. That is a bad deal for us. Cannot see that happening.
FWIW, and to fuel the rumour mill, from a friend of a friend supposedly in the know, it’s Sheff Utd for £25m. |
Could do without us being a Spurs feeder club - it was bad enough with Amos and Clarke this season. |  |
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| How many do we need? on 13:14 - Jul 27 with 784 views | TheChef |
| How many do we need? on 12:58 - Jul 27 by Gloucs_R |
Oteh was poor at Bradford. Very average was how he was described to be by someone who follows City and England home and away.
He didn't do anything at Walsall either.
Then MW preferred to use a midfielder upfront rather than a natural striker, I think that tells you everything you need to know.
Non League within 3 years |
Given how few starts Oteh had post-lockdown (when you thought he would feature more with Hugill injured), it's quite clear he's not up to it/MW doesn't fancy him.
Wonder if we've already enquired about Hugill again for another season loan? | |
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| How many do we need? on 14:57 - Jul 27 with 691 views | francisbowles |
| How many do we need? on 12:58 - Jul 27 by Gloucs_R |
Oteh was poor at Bradford. Very average was how he was described to be by someone who follows City and England home and away.
He didn't do anything at Walsall either.
Then MW preferred to use a midfielder upfront rather than a natural striker, I think that tells you everything you need to know.
Non League within 3 years |
Your quite possibly right but he looked good in that cup win against Leeds and confident when striking the penalty home. His loans weren't great but maybe the physicality was hard for him as a very young man or the style didn't play to his strengths. He is still only 21!
We need an opinion from SMEG who has probably seen him more than anyone on here. | | | |
| How many do we need? on 15:51 - Jul 27 with 643 views | LazyFan |
| How many do we need? on 14:57 - Jul 27 by francisbowles |
Your quite possibly right but he looked good in that cup win against Leeds and confident when striking the penalty home. His loans weren't great but maybe the physicality was hard for him as a very young man or the style didn't play to his strengths. He is still only 21!
We need an opinion from SMEG who has probably seen him more than anyone on here. |
Oteh was decent against Leeds and lead the line well, but Leeds had their own reserves out that day. So, it was hardly a conclusive test case. When he has been on in post lockdown, he has looked invisible in the games, despite trying hard.
The signing of Thomas and going after K.Moore, possibly show that we feel he won't make it. | |
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| How many do we need? on 16:30 - Jul 27 with 610 views | rsonist |
Didn't see many of the contributors here on the "Who would you try to sign" thread. |  | | |
| How many do we need? on 16:43 - Jul 27 with 588 views | Gloucs_R |
| How many do we need? on 16:30 - Jul 27 by rsonist |
Didn't see many of the contributors here on the "Who would you try to sign" thread. |
What's the relevance? | |
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| How many do we need? on 17:23 - Jul 27 with 543 views | PinnerPaul |
| How many do we need? on 07:42 - Jul 26 by ozexile |
Basically everywhere bar GK. |
Yep - I'll be happy with 21st myself.................................................................    | | | |
| How many do we need? on 17:58 - Jul 27 with 513 views | francisbowles |
| How many do we need? on 16:30 - Jul 27 by rsonist |
Didn't see many of the contributors here on the "Who would you try to sign" thread. |
That's because I haven't got a scooby about many players who are not Rrrs. Certainly not the ones who we could afford. | | | |
| How many do we need? on 18:06 - Jul 27 with 494 views | Gloucs_R |
| How many do we need? on 17:58 - Jul 27 by francisbowles |
That's because I haven't got a scooby about many players who are not Rrrs. Certainly not the ones who we could afford. |
Likewise. I don't watch u23 Prem games. I rarely watch other teams other than the highlights.
But I can tell you every decent player in the u11 and u8 Gloucester League. 😠| |
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