| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview 10:04 - Sep 9 with 24718 views | Northernr |
Spent some time yesterday afternoon with Warburton. Interview here, Patreon subs can download the audio.
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 10:41 - Sep 10 with 3010 views | rsonist |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 09:18 - Sep 10 by A40Bosh |
An excellent listen Clive and whilst towards the end of the interview the rebuke to your flippant gag about overdrafts seemed a little over the top and brought a tense ending to proceedings, it is clear that Warbs Warbuton is only too aware of, and not afraid to aggressively challenge criticism which he deems is way beyond acceptable.
I have always said that those supporters who come on forums or scream abuse from the stands really should pack in their day jobs and take up coaching and management and see how high up the game they can get with their obvious superior inside knowledge of the game.
That is not to say that criticism in itself is wrong, there has to be challenge, but sometimes I see on here posts which come across like a 10yr old kid who has been sat down and told that there is not very much money in the house this year as mum and dad have both lost their jobs and the very next week he is howling the place down as he is not happy with only a couple of cheap sweets he has been given |
Yeah but Ollie and Uncle Neil put on a puppet show and tell all the stories. |  | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 10:44 - Sep 10 with 3002 views | rsonist |
Uncle Gaz next door is doing facepaint! MUUUUUUUUUUM | | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 10:49 - Sep 10 with 2985 views | rsonist |
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 10:56 - Sep 10 with 2954 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 09:18 - Sep 10 by Mick_S |
Brian - is this an anti-social media thing? I don't use it and stick with this board, so I'm not aware of too much rubbish going on - it seems well balanced enough on here? [Post edited 10 Sep 2020 9:19]
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I'm basing it purely on this board, Mick.
I think the mood on here since Saturday has been highly charged. I think Warburton can do no right in some eyes, which is strange considering the prevailing mood is that he did a good job last season. |  |
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 11:24 - Sep 10 with 2882 views | WestbourneR |
Look - he takes his job extremely seriously and has absolutely no sense of humour at all but my goodness are we lucky to have him.
He's totally bought into the project and clearly, as a numbers man, quite likes wrestling with the financial prudency agenda, which would scare most others off.
At the same time as spending next to £0 on the team he's developing and selling youngsters for huge profit and bringing the next generation through in a considered and strategic way.
We have a very weak squad that consistently over performs. This season we'll be even weaker, so if he keeps us near mid-table he's working wonders again.
I think anyone who can't see that Warburton is pretty much the best manager we could have right now is either blind or not very clever.
The only person I'd swap him for is Chris Wilder.
ps the reason he got embarrassingly uppity about Clive's questions is the failures of the players speak to his failures and he's obviously very proud and it spiked his ego. If a team can't defend set pieces then it's ultimately on him and he knows it.
I have to be honest about one thing. I think his obsession with a CB's passing is totally misjudged at this level. They need to be fast, good at tackling & heading and positionally sound. That's it. |  |
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 11:28 - Sep 10 with 2873 views | qprd |
clive, i liked your question re whether the execs gave qpr players a defeatist attitude by criticizing the restart date... i didnt really buy his answer to the question...
i feel like hes starting to do the same about our wages.... his bit about how cairney is on X multiples wages as our midfielders was pretty weird... no one expects players like dom ball or luke amos to be as good as tom cairney, barry bannon, sawyers, etc.... but the fact that theyre on a fraction of the wages as some of the big dogs isnt an excuse if they play poorly.... is he suggesting that amos can play 10% as well as cairney bc hes on 10% of his wages?
comparing players wages gives players like he did gives them an excuse for not playing well..... |  | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 11:35 - Sep 10 with 2859 views | Mick_S |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 10:56 - Sep 10 by BrianMcCarthy |
I'm basing it purely on this board, Mick.
I think the mood on here since Saturday has been highly charged. I think Warburton can do no right in some eyes, which is strange considering the prevailing mood is that he did a good job last season. |
Fair enough, Brian - feck knows what it's like elsewhere then? We should try that Klopp bloke, he'd keep the realistic people happy. |  |
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 11:37 - Sep 10 with 2848 views | A40Bosh |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 11:28 - Sep 10 by qprd |
clive, i liked your question re whether the execs gave qpr players a defeatist attitude by criticizing the restart date... i didnt really buy his answer to the question...
i feel like hes starting to do the same about our wages.... his bit about how cairney is on X multiples wages as our midfielders was pretty weird... no one expects players like dom ball or luke amos to be as good as tom cairney, barry bannon, sawyers, etc.... but the fact that theyre on a fraction of the wages as some of the big dogs isnt an excuse if they play poorly.... is he suggesting that amos can play 10% as well as cairney bc hes on 10% of his wages?
comparing players wages gives players like he did gives them an excuse for not playing well..... |
qprd, I am trying to give him credit here, but I think he was trying to nicely say that there is a huge gap between some players ability in this division, but was using the difference in pay as the comparison point and we can put 2 and 2 together in what he meant |  |
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 11:53 - Sep 10 with 2807 views | TheChef |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 10:49 - Sep 10 by rsonist |
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What DOES a QPR manager feel like?
Warbs looks very smooth to me, silky to the touch. |  |
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 12:31 - Sep 10 with 2712 views | simmo |
I wish his style of play was as defensive as him sometimes. |  |
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 14:55 - Sep 10 with 2404 views | francisbowles |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 11:24 - Sep 10 by WestbourneR |
Look - he takes his job extremely seriously and has absolutely no sense of humour at all but my goodness are we lucky to have him.
He's totally bought into the project and clearly, as a numbers man, quite likes wrestling with the financial prudency agenda, which would scare most others off.
At the same time as spending next to £0 on the team he's developing and selling youngsters for huge profit and bringing the next generation through in a considered and strategic way.
We have a very weak squad that consistently over performs. This season we'll be even weaker, so if he keeps us near mid-table he's working wonders again.
I think anyone who can't see that Warburton is pretty much the best manager we could have right now is either blind or not very clever.
The only person I'd swap him for is Chris Wilder.
ps the reason he got embarrassingly uppity about Clive's questions is the failures of the players speak to his failures and he's obviously very proud and it spiked his ego. If a team can't defend set pieces then it's ultimately on him and he knows it.
I have to be honest about one thing. I think his obsession with a CB's passing is totally misjudged at this level. They need to be fast, good at tackling & heading and positionally sound. That's it. |
Excellent post. I agree with all of it except, possibly, the last paragraph and the Chris Wilder bit.
What you have said may have been true a few years back but it is becoming more the norm at our level now. It seems almost compulsory at a higher level and is creeping in at L1 and below as well.
As for CW it would be a huge gamble to take him out of Sheffield. Would he able to generate the same level of enthusiasm down south? | | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 15:07 - Sep 10 with 2375 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 12:31 - Sep 10 by simmo |
I wish his style of play was as defensive as him sometimes. |
I don’t.
To be honest, if we’re competitive, w
we were last season, i don’t care much about defence. I want entertainment, first and foremost. To me, as a realist in what QPR is or can be, it’s far, far more important than results. I’m in the minority here of course, but entertaining teams who create lots of chances and score goals rarely (there are exceptions) get relegated. Boring defensive teams, however, are much more at risk. Imo. |  |
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 15:24 - Sep 10 with 2339 views | francisbowles |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 15:07 - Sep 10 by Antti_Heinola |
I don’t.
To be honest, if we’re competitive, w
we were last season, i don’t care much about defence. I want entertainment, first and foremost. To me, as a realist in what QPR is or can be, it’s far, far more important than results. I’m in the minority here of course, but entertaining teams who create lots of chances and score goals rarely (there are exceptions) get relegated. Boring defensive teams, however, are much more at risk. Imo. |
With you on that Antti.
As for the comments about MW losing some of the fans etc.
After the car crash that was the second half of the McClaren season and what we acheived under MW last season with budget and performance, the club has to grow a pair and give him the backing he deserves, if and when he needs it.
The last thing we need is another U turn. We have started on a new journey with a manager who has managed for a full season, and I hope that he wants to stay for a few more and that we can keep him happy enough to do that. | | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 15:29 - Sep 10 with 2326 views | joe90 |
Great interview Clive, thanks.
Very insightful and definitely made me look at our situation differently. It's really important for us to get behind the team/club, we've made good progress in a relatively short time, long may it continue. |  | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 16:01 - Sep 10 with 2257 views | RrsssOntheline |
Fantastic interview, much thanks to you both. Clive, for asking the difficult questions that needed asking, but specially to Mark for answering forthrightly and with passion. Football has always been a game of differing opinions, it is very rare for a manager to be so open and not just churn out the meaningless bullshot. We are very lucky to have these two individuals on our side. And indeed they are. Thanks! [Post edited 10 Sep 2020 16:03]
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 16:09 - Sep 10 with 2238 views | Noelmc |
Very good interview Clive.
It gives a fantastic insight into Warbs mentality, even some traits that I don't personally like (no sense of humour).
However I'm with Antti on this one and my priorities are to watch an entertaining QPR team, which develops our young players, but remains reasonably competitive in the Championship. I'm not interested in the PL riches and can live with some defensive frailties. If we continue to entertain and develop players, I'm happy with a mid-table finish.
On this basis, he is the best man for the job and I hope we stick with him. |  | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 19:20 - Sep 10 with 2025 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 11:53 - Sep 10 by TheChef |
What DOES a QPR manager feel like?
Warbs looks very smooth to me, silky to the touch. |
I don't know where Alec Stock or Dave Sexton fit in with this idea that proper QPR managers can't be reserved quiet types.
The best (and by definition most "proper QPR" managers) I've known have been serious thinkers about the game - those two but also Jago, Venables and Francis. Warburton fits into that gallery quite neatly IMO.
(I'd make a case for Warnock too; Ollie much less obviously, though he was never the yokel idiot some want to portray him as) | | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 19:24 - Sep 10 with 2021 views | robith |
IMO Ramsey’s biggest mistake was listening to the fans and trying to turn his 4-3 style into a 1-0 style.
We are in a precarious financial position and have a coach who not only loves that situation but tries to play attacking football.
Obvious nothing is fixed but if we were to sack him for anything other than a catastrophic h1, we’d deserve everything we get. |  | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 20:55 - Sep 10 with 1907 views | GloryHunter |
I was very pleased to hear about the players being fined for conceding from set pieces. I wonder if all clubs do this? |  | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 22:06 - Sep 10 with 1814 views | Myke |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 10:56 - Sep 10 by BrianMcCarthy |
I'm basing it purely on this board, Mick.
I think the mood on here since Saturday has been highly charged. I think Warburton can do no right in some eyes, which is strange considering the prevailing mood is that he did a good job last season. |
I am not on twitter so can't comment, but honestly don't see the opinions being expressed here as 'highly charged' Brian. Definite frustration about our inability to defend alright, justified imo, when there is no palpable improvement on last season. But no big drama that I detected. The benchmark I use is our reaction to losing 7-1 to WBA which certainly blurred the lines with twitter and changed the way McClaren approached the season completely.
Two things concerned me about the interview: (1)If we are actually practising defending (both set-pieces and per se) while is there no discernible improvement? Either the coaches are not doing their job, or the players are a bit slow on the up-take; maybe they need to increase the fines to help concentrate the minds?
(2) If he directly relates higher quality to being better paid- eg Cairney - then how does he explain why Oxford's midfield/forwards were able to penetrate us so effortlessly> | | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 22:56 - Sep 10 with 1753 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 22:06 - Sep 10 by Myke |
I am not on twitter so can't comment, but honestly don't see the opinions being expressed here as 'highly charged' Brian. Definite frustration about our inability to defend alright, justified imo, when there is no palpable improvement on last season. But no big drama that I detected. The benchmark I use is our reaction to losing 7-1 to WBA which certainly blurred the lines with twitter and changed the way McClaren approached the season completely.
Two things concerned me about the interview: (1)If we are actually practising defending (both set-pieces and per se) while is there no discernible improvement? Either the coaches are not doing their job, or the players are a bit slow on the up-take; maybe they need to increase the fines to help concentrate the minds?
(2) If he directly relates higher quality to being better paid- eg Cairney - then how does he explain why Oxford's midfield/forwards were able to penetrate us so effortlessly> |
"(2) If he directly relates higher quality to being better paid- eg Cairney - then how does he explain why Oxford's midfield/forwards were able to penetrate us so effortlessly>"
Myke,
That's a decent example of what I mean. I don't think anyone reading that would think that Warburton meant that the higher-paid player will always outperform his opponent, or that the higher-paid team will always win. Otherwise we'd just send our accountants to meet the oppo's. But we know for a fact that wages are a huge factor. In fact research shows that wages are the single most important arbiter of success. So it's a rational point to make.
We're less than two days before the first league game of the season, a season following one where the team and manager outperformed expectations, and the manager's pre-season interview is being forensically picked apart and - it seems to me at least - that it's being done to find flaws. | |
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| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 23:39 - Sep 10 with 1706 views | Myke |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 22:56 - Sep 10 by BrianMcCarthy |
"(2) If he directly relates higher quality to being better paid- eg Cairney - then how does he explain why Oxford's midfield/forwards were able to penetrate us so effortlessly>"
Myke,
That's a decent example of what I mean. I don't think anyone reading that would think that Warburton meant that the higher-paid player will always outperform his opponent, or that the higher-paid team will always win. Otherwise we'd just send our accountants to meet the oppo's. But we know for a fact that wages are a huge factor. In fact research shows that wages are the single most important arbiter of success. So it's a rational point to make.
We're less than two days before the first league game of the season, a season following one where the team and manager outperformed expectations, and the manager's pre-season interview is being forensically picked apart and - it seems to me at least - that it's being done to find flaws. |
Ah I get what you mean - more the intensity of the analysis than the actual content. I wonder is that as much to do with the boredom induced by Lockdown (no slight on Clive's penmanship) as any great shift away from supporting the boss?. If it was just this thread (or any Warburton related thread. I think you would have more cause for concern. But the reality is EVERY thread is scrutinised - I am certainly guilty of that, and often throw out a controversial statement just to 'stir things up a bit' (my comments in your 'getting a dog thread' would be an excellent example of that, as I know from my aunt and cousin how passionate the English are about their pets, compared to the Irish)
Trying to wean myself off it a bit (unsuccessfully as you can see) as I am back at school this week, but that will happen anyway as I get busier. For the most part, once Saturday comes around and the 'phoney war' is over, I think people will concentrate more on the footie.
Of course if we lose the first three games in a row.... | | | |
| Warbs talks lockdown form, signings, contracts and defence — Interview on 23:42 - Sep 10 with 1700 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
I haven't read or listened to all of this yet but the main thing I got so far is that Warburton doesn't seem as excited to be QPR manager as he was last season.
Reading some of the fan responses, neither are we excited about the season ahead.
Other than that I agree with Brian the reaction to the Plymouth loss was more than a little excessive.
Who did Plymouth get in the 2nd round anyway? I haven't checked. Northampton? [Post edited 10 Sep 2020 23:43]
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