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I'm guessing the script will be 100% "poor little Rochdale". Never mind the struggles of other clubs, NOBODY will have had it as bad as "poor little Rochdale". We can't compete with anyone, ever, because we are "poor little Rochdale". Being in 4 consecutive relegation dogfights in League One will be repeated as "historic success". Ambition and positivity will not be mentioned as those present salute each others abilities. Add lashings of extra "poor little Rochdale" for good measure.
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Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 22:03 - Mar 10 with 2877 views
In unanswered questions, to reiterate, the Trust were asked could they collate questions to ensure that any that weren’t answered could be afterwards when they meet with the board so answers could appear on their site.
That route was not taken up.
Their role now should be to confirm with supporters, members or not, if there are any unanswered questions or follow up ones that fans want answering which they will collate, following agreed processes around communication.
Can someone explain to me all the negativity aimed towards Bottomley? Unless I’ve missed something, he seems to talk with the club’s best interests in mind, cares about the club (hence the hard to watch emotional outpour tonight) and gets us noticed in the media. I don’t have the wool over my eyes, I’m aware mistakes have been made, which he’s acknowledged; but he seems a genuine, hard-working CEO? If someone could genuinely and politely explain to me what I’ve missed then please enlighten me, I’m not a blindly positive fan, but one who wants the best for the club like everyone else. As for the forum, sounds like we’re in a worse financial position than we realised, but I trust the board to get us through this predicament. They’re all passionate fans, something which a lot of clubs are very jealous of. Final take home message for me was that whether we like it or not, Brian seems to be here for the foreseeable.
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Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 22:24 - Mar 10 with 2422 views
Having a think back to what I hoped to learn from the forum...
Why did Altman and Marcelli put the stoppers on joining the board? We don't know...
BBM's future at Dale? He may have another year on his contract... or not... maybe. What we do know is that the CEO thinks so highly of BBM that it brings him to tears.
A reasoned response to the recent scrutiny of our CEO? It wasn't mentioned. Given his role at the club, it is an important topic. I can understand that it's also a sensitive topic but it's become an elephant in the room.
They did set themselves a high bar by saying they would discuss every topic that they had received questions about. Unless people are writing fake questions and not sending them in, not every topic was discussed.
I don't feel any better but I don't really feel any worse either. It was all pretty much as expected. Tony Pockney came across well and I'm rather sad we didn't get to have a grotto.
Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 22:23 - Mar 10 by DareToCalvin
Can someone explain to me all the negativity aimed towards Bottomley? Unless I’ve missed something, he seems to talk with the club’s best interests in mind, cares about the club (hence the hard to watch emotional outpour tonight) and gets us noticed in the media. I don’t have the wool over my eyes, I’m aware mistakes have been made, which he’s acknowledged; but he seems a genuine, hard-working CEO? If someone could genuinely and politely explain to me what I’ve missed then please enlighten me, I’m not a blindly positive fan, but one who wants the best for the club like everyone else. As for the forum, sounds like we’re in a worse financial position than we realised, but I trust the board to get us through this predicament. They’re all passionate fans, something which a lot of clubs are very jealous of. Final take home message for me was that whether we like it or not, Brian seems to be here for the foreseeable.
Good question.
There was a bit of a thread about it not too long ago. Here's a link.
Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 22:23 - Mar 10 by DareToCalvin
Can someone explain to me all the negativity aimed towards Bottomley? Unless I’ve missed something, he seems to talk with the club’s best interests in mind, cares about the club (hence the hard to watch emotional outpour tonight) and gets us noticed in the media. I don’t have the wool over my eyes, I’m aware mistakes have been made, which he’s acknowledged; but he seems a genuine, hard-working CEO? If someone could genuinely and politely explain to me what I’ve missed then please enlighten me, I’m not a blindly positive fan, but one who wants the best for the club like everyone else. As for the forum, sounds like we’re in a worse financial position than we realised, but I trust the board to get us through this predicament. They’re all passionate fans, something which a lot of clubs are very jealous of. Final take home message for me was that whether we like it or not, Brian seems to be here for the foreseeable.
From what I gather. His checkered past, in particular the Hasbro price fixing. The impression he was put into the position of CEO without due process (I think that's the term) Belief that he was part of the conspiracy to oust/overthrow Dunphy. He hasn't answered Big Kindo's email. Feelings that he is turning Rochdale into the David Bottomley show.
'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 22:32 - Mar 10 by James1980
From what I gather. His checkered past, in particular the Hasbro price fixing. The impression he was put into the position of CEO without due process (I think that's the term) Belief that he was part of the conspiracy to oust/overthrow Dunphy. He hasn't answered Big Kindo's email. Feelings that he is turning Rochdale into the David Bottomley show.
Thanks James and Tom for the responses. An interesting read there from the thread I missed. However, the fact part of your answer says ‘conspiracy’ suggests a lot of the negativity is bandwagon-related, with many not taking the time to go against the crowd. I’m personally embarrassed by all the abuse he receives, again, unless I’ve missed something obvious while he’s been in charge I don’t think he’s done anything blatantly wrong to warrant such abuse. He gets the club and it’s philosophy, and i think we could do a lot worse.
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Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 22:42 - Mar 10 with 2134 views
Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 22:36 - Mar 10 by DareToCalvin
Thanks James and Tom for the responses. An interesting read there from the thread I missed. However, the fact part of your answer says ‘conspiracy’ suggests a lot of the negativity is bandwagon-related, with many not taking the time to go against the crowd. I’m personally embarrassed by all the abuse he receives, again, unless I’ve missed something obvious while he’s been in charge I don’t think he’s done anything blatantly wrong to warrant such abuse. He gets the club and it’s philosophy, and i think we could do a lot worse.
Agree about the personal abuse and he's had a face to face and written apology from me.
Doesn't mean the facts are wrong.
I now wonder if there is more to come out of Extensiongate, because Graham did not look to be aware of BBM's contract extension.
In parts it was refreshingly honest, at other times it was dull as dishwater and at others, just plain bizarre.
I realise not everybody’s question will have been read out (ok, maybe Rob Hume/Hulme excepted) but the management team and BOD had to front up tonight and whether we think they’re making a good fist of it or not, they clearly care. Passionately. I don’t buy DB turning on the tears, that looked very genuine and in fairness, I’m sure he is under a lot of stress, coupled with the stick he receives on here - of which I’ve been guilty. That’s definitely not to say that he is beyond criticism as he definitely isn’t but it’s clear to me that everybody wants what’s best for the club - they may just have varying ideas of how to go about achieving it.
Frances tried her best to justify the switch from the Goldbond to Lotto but it was clear she didn’t believe what she was saying and you hope the club sticks to its word that they may look to reintroduce cash collections in future.
As for BBM’s contract extension, where to start? For one, I couldn’t believe GR (who looked and spoke like he’d just woke from a deep sleep) didn’t know when BBM’s contract was up but for BBM to just casually confirm that he’s here for another year was unintentionally comedic and bizarre.
Tony Pockney was refreshingly honest again and I don’t doubt we’re absolutely skint but it still doesn’t change the fact that BBM what’s grossly mismanaged the squad available to him this season, regardless of budget or injuries.
Also I accept that the board are invested in BBM but don’t try to palm off the fan base by basically claiming that our loanees are here because of BBM and that we’re incredibly lucky to see them at Spotland. That’s complete and utter tripe. As numerous others have said, we’re not here as some sort of testing ground for players to iron out their mistakes - if we were, we may as well become a ‘Premier League 2’ club as the likes of Benitez and Klopp have so keenly espoused in the past.
There’s still 12 games to go this season and yes, we may well end up in League Two, but I want the board and management team to start demonstrating that lessons are being learnt.
UTDNFS
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Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 22:49 - Mar 10 with 2063 views
Think we'd have had a bit more plain speaking if he'd been there, but there's every chance the vacuum - and vacuity - on show tonight will be allowed to continue for some time yet
Or at least until someone realises that BBM's contract extension to 2031 expired ten years previously
Fan's forum 10.3.2021 on 22:48 - Mar 10 by IOMDale
Struggling to get my head around that tonight.
In parts it was refreshingly honest, at other times it was dull as dishwater and at others, just plain bizarre.
I realise not everybody’s question will have been read out (ok, maybe Rob Hume/Hulme excepted) but the management team and BOD had to front up tonight and whether we think they’re making a good fist of it or not, they clearly care. Passionately. I don’t buy DB turning on the tears, that looked very genuine and in fairness, I’m sure he is under a lot of stress, coupled with the stick he receives on here - of which I’ve been guilty. That’s definitely not to say that he is beyond criticism as he definitely isn’t but it’s clear to me that everybody wants what’s best for the club - they may just have varying ideas of how to go about achieving it.
Frances tried her best to justify the switch from the Goldbond to Lotto but it was clear she didn’t believe what she was saying and you hope the club sticks to its word that they may look to reintroduce cash collections in future.
As for BBM’s contract extension, where to start? For one, I couldn’t believe GR (who looked and spoke like he’d just woke from a deep sleep) didn’t know when BBM’s contract was up but for BBM to just casually confirm that he’s here for another year was unintentionally comedic and bizarre.
Tony Pockney was refreshingly honest again and I don’t doubt we’re absolutely skint but it still doesn’t change the fact that BBM what’s grossly mismanaged the squad available to him this season, regardless of budget or injuries.
Also I accept that the board are invested in BBM but don’t try to palm off the fan base by basically claiming that our loanees are here because of BBM and that we’re incredibly lucky to see them at Spotland. That’s complete and utter tripe. As numerous others have said, we’re not here as some sort of testing ground for players to iron out their mistakes - if we were, we may as well become a ‘Premier League 2’ club as the likes of Benitez and Klopp have so keenly espoused in the past.
There’s still 12 games to go this season and yes, we may well end up in League Two, but I want the board and management team to start demonstrating that lessons are being learnt.
As big a fan as I was of Tony Pockney from the last forum, that has all but gone tonight.
He's a terrible salesman.
I would hope that the Trust, as a body with a shareholding roughly equal to any director on show tonight, can access board minutes that show when and by whom the manager's contract was extended.
After all, the announcement was a major photo opportunity that has been missed.
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