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To be fair to him, their goals were more about a lack of application and courage. Be first to the ball and then be first to it again. We saw it at Luton, then Birmingham. Clarke-Salter is a good example - yes, you are an elegant player but can you stick your head in where it hurts? Playing touch football in an academy doesn't prepare you for Championship football.
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Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 03:20 - Nov 10 with 1921 views
We're are slow starters. Yeah I know we scored early last night, but that was a bit unusual, more down to mistakes by Huddersfield than creativity on our part.
We tend not to run the game whoever we play. Letting the opposition direct it's style and pace, and then trying to match them. Mostly it's successful, but rarely by more than the odd goal (Hull, Millwall, and Cardiff excepted.) It could be my imagination but we seem to be reactive more than proactive, and succeed very often by fine margins. It's never boring, but it is exhausting and sometimes frustrating.
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Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 03:42 - Nov 10 with 1891 views
Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 20:48 - Nov 9 by Wegerles_Stairs
To be fair to him, their goals were more about a lack of application and courage. Be first to the ball and then be first to it again. We saw it at Luton, then Birmingham. Clarke-Salter is a good example - yes, you are an elegant player but can you stick your head in where it hurts? Playing touch football in an academy doesn't prepare you for Championship football.
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I think it's more this than anything to do with shape, system, set up as well. Obviously there will be all sorts of failings - Dieng's positioning given the three lobs? Zonal v man and all of that jazz. A degree of bad luck sometimes - but we've gone from a back three of Dunne, Barbet and Dickie to a back four with Clarke-Salter and Balogun and we're still astonishingly weak at defending wide set pieces. Like you say, we don't win the first ball, and we don't win the second one. The first goal on Tuesday, Jack Rudoni has won the first header despite being alone with Laird in front of him and Field (who isn't small) behind him. Sooner or later it comes down to Richard Dunne in the play off final - go and put your fcking head on it somebody. One of their centre backs the other night is from Cheltenham, two Championship games in his life, chucked himself at everything. Just go and win the fcking thing.
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Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 09:13 - Nov 10 with 1747 views
Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 09:02 - Nov 10 by Northernr
I think it's more this than anything to do with shape, system, set up as well. Obviously there will be all sorts of failings - Dieng's positioning given the three lobs? Zonal v man and all of that jazz. A degree of bad luck sometimes - but we've gone from a back three of Dunne, Barbet and Dickie to a back four with Clarke-Salter and Balogun and we're still astonishingly weak at defending wide set pieces. Like you say, we don't win the first ball, and we don't win the second one. The first goal on Tuesday, Jack Rudoni has won the first header despite being alone with Laird in front of him and Field (who isn't small) behind him. Sooner or later it comes down to Richard Dunne in the play off final - go and put your fcking head on it somebody. One of their centre backs the other night is from Cheltenham, two Championship games in his life, chucked himself at everything. Just go and win the fcking thing.
Yet I saw Clarke-Salter winning a good amount of headers in open play. And I don't think Field would shirk a header, bandage or no bandage. So some of this has to be down to how they're being set up to defend them.
I'd emphasise that I do think it's secondary to the 'stick your head on it' thing, but we see them doing it in open play and then getting beaten from corners.
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Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 10:42 - Nov 10 with 1687 views
Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 18:36 - Nov 9 by Antti_Heinola
They didn't really trumpet it, they just announced it. And a few weeks ago it was hailed even on here as a good thing as we started keeping clean sheets and had scored more than any other team from set pieces. Maybe, just maybe, three of our four CBs rotating through injury and one being 34 and perhaps tiring after having to play every game might have a *tiny* bit more to do with it than a set piece coach, who is probably doing and saying the right things.
Couple of weeks ago Balogun was everywhere and leaping like a salmon. Now he is making errors and can't get off the ground.
Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 07:13 - Nov 10 by Northernr
Because there’s no point. Never is. Wnk is a good idea though I’ll crack on with that.
Good, good. Game of opinions and all that. I think I discuss a massive range of issues here in a lot of decent detail, and am always willing to have my own polemics rebalanced, but it's the insufferable smugness/superiority (amusingly projected onto me) of the 'realists' I can't abide. Very little is 'right' in football. It's theatre, not business (if you're a fan at least), and my own pieces are provocations just like yours. If only you could see this!
PS Thanks to the one or two renegade posters for messages of support/commiseration offline - you know who you are. We renegades need to stick together (which I guess would mean we're no longer renegades)!
Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 12:53 - Nov 10 by stainrods_elbow
Good, good. Game of opinions and all that. I think I discuss a massive range of issues here in a lot of decent detail, and am always willing to have my own polemics rebalanced, but it's the insufferable smugness/superiority (amusingly projected onto me) of the 'realists' I can't abide. Very little is 'right' in football. It's theatre, not business (if you're a fan at least), and my own pieces are provocations just like yours. If only you could see this!
PS Thanks to the one or two renegade posters for messages of support/commiseration offline - you know who you are. We renegades need to stick together (which I guess would mean we're no longer renegades)!
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Love the old private messages of support narrative. If people agree with you it's not that hard or controversial to do it on the forum, is it?
Renegade? You ain't no renegade, you're just another gobshite, no different to all the rest of us gobshites except perhaps the excessive word count and number of iterations you need to register a complaint.
Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 20:15 - Nov 9 by stainrods_elbow
Personally, I'm all for this 'naming' (and if needed shaming) of Rs staff - football needs a hell of a lot more transparency and accountability to its fans, i.e. paying customers. In any other professional walk of life, it wouldn't be an issue. It's absolutely ridiculous that, after however many years it is at the club now, we're all still more than a little in the dark about what Les does and what input our overrated CEO has on recruiting/firing managers, leaving aside the eternal mystery of the water pressure in the Stanley Bowles bogs. Football 'clubs' operate more like cults, and too many fans play the role of suckers.
Let's go further - give the guy a platform/interview so he can explain what he's trying to do (not in too much detail, obviously), what his background is, and how he rates his contribution so far. Why not?
'Judge not that ye be judged', you say? Christian bollox, says I.
That's pretty good going - somehow blaming Les and Lee for our inability to defend set pieces!
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Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 17:21 - Nov 10 with 1472 views
Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 20:19 - Nov 9 by Northernr
I did wonder when and how our defending at set pieces would become Lee Hoos’ fault so thanks for that.
SE rarely has a good word to say about anything to do with our club. And, if he doesn't understand the roles Les and Hoos have now, it's wilful ignorance or just ignorance.
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Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 13:56 - Nov 28 with 1277 views
Harry Watling our Set-piece Coach on 13:56 - Nov 28 by Northolt_Rs
He’s offski with fat boy…. So, that’s a result!
Ross County, St. Johnstone, St. Mirren, Kilmarnock, Livingston, Motherwell etc. take note … Mick ‘The Ambition’ Beale and his futsal church-hall gimp are on their way.
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