| FIFA World Cup thread. 12:02 - Nov 15 with 135094 views | Snipper |
I’m trying to get excited about this World Cup, but to no avail :-((.
I’ve just watched Sky Sports World Cup preview with Gary Neville, Jamie Redknapp, Jamie Carragher & Karen Carney. Utterly depressing viewing. Same old, same old. Picking players for the starting XI not playing for their clubs, or totally off form.
I’m hoping this thread can get the juices flowing.
Do any of you think England have a chance? |  | | |  |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 20:45 - Dec 13 with 1881 views | KerryE |
Can anyone explain why Argentina 2nd goal was allowed as scorer clattered into goalkeeper, before ball crossed the line I think. |  | | |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 21:00 - Dec 13 with 1836 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 20:33 - Dec 13 by Hooparoo |
The Messi w@nkfest rolls on |
I’m back in the UK and catching my first (hopefully last) match on ITV. The predictability of their comments is staggering. If Messi took a siht at HT, they would say it was the greatest dump ever without sniffing or testing it for density and stiffness. |  |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 21:06 - Dec 13 with 1811 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 20:33 - Dec 13 by Hooparoo |
The Messi w@nkfest rolls on |
Croatia are blessed just to be on the same pitch as Messi according to Matterface and his cohorts: that shot from an accutr angle in the 2nd half that the keeper easily saved was the work of a genius according to them. Modric was the crown prince until they realised he’d given the ball away for the 1st goal then hardly mentioned again, apart from when Matterface said it was probably his last World Cup appearance…. apart from the 3rd place play off in a few days Sam.
Genuinely cringeworthy: will obviously ne watching the BBC coverage of the final of course. |  | | |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 21:13 - Dec 13 with 1792 views | traininvain |
Argentina have scored 12 goals at this World Cup. Messi has scored five of them plus four assists.
This isn’t a normal World Cup performance, particularly from a 35 year old. It’s not difficult to see why people are singing his praises. |  | | |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 21:16 - Dec 13 with 1775 views | stowmarketrange |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 20:45 - Dec 13 by KerryE |
Can anyone explain why Argentina 2nd goal was allowed as scorer clattered into goalkeeper, before ball crossed the line I think. |
He never touched the keeper until the ball was virtually into the net so he certainly didn’t impede him. |  | | |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 21:23 - Dec 13 with 1761 views | Mick_S |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 21:13 - Dec 13 by traininvain |
Argentina have scored 12 goals at this World Cup. Messi has scored five of them plus four assists.
This isn’t a normal World Cup performance, particularly from a 35 year old. It’s not difficult to see why people are singing his praises. |
He’s been magnificent and I’d argue that Argentina have grown into the strongest team in the tournament. They couldn’t have done that without him. |  |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 21:25 - Dec 13 with 1757 views | Stanisgod |
Assuming its Argies v Frogs I'll be washing my hair as for me thats a bit like a Chelscum v Pikeys fa cup final, hope they both lose. |  |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 21:28 - Dec 13 with 1746 views | daveB |
I thought Messi was brilliant, hope he wins the final on Sunday |  | | |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 23:25 - Dec 13 with 1613 views | BrianMcCarthy |
First time seeing it, as I was out at training earlier.
Ah, he's just so great to watch.
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 00:06 - Dec 14 with 1575 views | daveB |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 05:06 - Dec 14 with 1477 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 23:25 - Dec 13 by BrianMcCarthy |
First time seeing it, as I was out at training earlier.
Ah, he's just so great to watch.
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Hoilett’s cross at Wembley was ten times harder than that! Junior not only had to win the ball back, off the floor I may add, but he had enough presence of mind to use Keogh to complete the pass to Zamora.
That was genius on the cunning Canuck’s part. Fact! And rest assured, if Messi had the audacity to even try what Junior did with aplomb, we’d never hear the end of it from Lee Dixon.Ever! | |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 09:35 - Dec 14 with 1323 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 05:06 - Dec 14 by PlanetHonneywood |
Hoilett’s cross at Wembley was ten times harder than that! Junior not only had to win the ball back, off the floor I may add, but he had enough presence of mind to use Keogh to complete the pass to Zamora.
That was genius on the cunning Canuck’s part. Fact! And rest assured, if Messi had the audacity to even try what Junior did with aplomb, we’d never hear the end of it from Lee Dixon.Ever! |
Ya, but that's because Lee Dixon and Messi are partners in a whaling business in Mongolia. | |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 09:50 - Dec 14 with 1298 views | hubble |
For me, one of the most compelling narratives of this World Cup is what you could call "the battle for the crown of 'the greatest.'"
In the most recent football era, there have been two stand-out players: Messi and Ronaldo. For years now they have vied for that title. But now there's a new kid on the block - the young pretender Mbappe. And the way this battle is playing out is sheer poetry: the first to fall was Ronaldo. The manner of his exit from this World Cup has been vainglorious and surely reflects badly upon his character, exactly as his ignomious exit from Man Utd has done. Ronaldo, with his preening, overweening pride, has lost all claim to the crown.
Now just two remain: Messi and Mbappe. Messi, like the true great that he is, has delivered where it counts most: on the pitch. I have never been a fan, in that churlish way that we football fans often adopt, just because. Just because he's so lauded. Just because he's an irritating little runt. Well that's all in my head. The reality is that he's a football genius. And last night he showed that. He has led Argentina to the World Cup final. What could be more fitting for the mantle of the greatest than this achievement?
Well, if it weren't for one Kylian Mbappe, that would be it. Game over, Messi crowned. But this is where the narrative really gets brilliant. For Mbappe represents not just the shining potential of the next generation of footballers, he represents the incredible shift in global perspective: Mbappe straddles both worlds - the old world of Europe and the even older world, the cradle of humanity: Africa. He is the nexus that has the potential to unite, and I feel that underlying the constant narrative of war and strife that dominates our news feeds, is the greater narrative - particularly apt at this time - that of peace and love. It shimmers as a potential, amidst the curated chaos that we are directed to perceive.
Of course, Mbappe is not quite there yet. France have to overcome an ebullient Morocco, and that is no small task. And the other subplot to this narrative is the rise of the Arab and African nations on the global stage, epitomised by Morroco. For surely football, more than anything else, has the ability to capture global attention and unite people from all backgrounds? And despite all the negative press around the Qatar world cup - much of it deserved of course - there is another side which those who have chosen to boycott the competition have sadly missed out on: inclusivity. You may say it's *merely* a narrative, not a reality, but it is narratives that dictate everything on life, from global politics to personal feelings.
But back to my main point: should Mbappe and France prevail, the stage is set: Messi v Mbappe: the old order versus the new: the battle for the crown. |  |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 10:22 - Dec 14 with 1275 views | TheChef |
Was a bit concerned we'd have another France v Croatia final, which would be dull.
Looking forward to Argentina v Morocco!  |  |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 13:45 - Dec 14 with 1210 views | DieByYourSide |
Just realised Chair will probably get a run out in the 3rd/4th play-off if Morocco lose tonight.
Odds on him getting injured?  | |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 13:59 - Dec 14 with 1171 views | Phildo |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 14:11 - Dec 14 with 1134 views | TheChef |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 13:59 - Dec 14 by Phildo |
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This was a really odd discussion - it almost felt like an intended audience wind-up because they didn't really have any other talking points! | |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 14:29 - Dec 14 with 1083 views | PinnerPaul |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 21:13 - Dec 13 by traininvain |
Argentina have scored 12 goals at this World Cup. Messi has scored five of them plus four assists.
This isn’t a normal World Cup performance, particularly from a 35 year old. It’s not difficult to see why people are singing his praises. |
Agree
Don't what kit it is in this country, we love to knock down people - if they are brilliant - Messi, brilliant but have 'flaws', Ronaldo or even not so brilliant - Dykes!
Messi is far and away the best player around at the moment and we can argue this until cows come home, but certainly one of top 5 best players ever.
How anyone can watch the slop we saw on Sunday and then watch yesterday's match and NOT admire the skill, work rate and organisation of both teams with a touch of genius thrown in, and not admire it for what it was - a top top quality match by top top quality players I really don't understand! | | | |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 14:31 - Dec 14 with 1606 views | TheChef |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 14:29 - Dec 14 by PinnerPaul |
Agree
Don't what kit it is in this country, we love to knock down people - if they are brilliant - Messi, brilliant but have 'flaws', Ronaldo or even not so brilliant - Dykes!
Messi is far and away the best player around at the moment and we can argue this until cows come home, but certainly one of top 5 best players ever.
How anyone can watch the slop we saw on Sunday and then watch yesterday's match and NOT admire the skill, work rate and organisation of both teams with a touch of genius thrown in, and not admire it for what it was - a top top quality match by top top quality players I really don't understand! |
One thing me and my boys noticed watching the Burnley game was the pace of it was so much faster than the World Cup games! And funnily enough the accuracy/quality was a lot worse. | |
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 15:07 - Dec 14 with 1551 views | PinnerPaul |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 14:31 - Dec 14 by TheChef |
One thing me and my boys noticed watching the Burnley game was the pace of it was so much faster than the World Cup games! And funnily enough the accuracy/quality was a lot worse. |
Fair point, but then football cliche no 227 states that the higher you go the slower the speed.
EG "You get no time in League 1" | | | |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 15:18 - Dec 14 with 1530 views | ericgen34 |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 13:59 - Dec 14 by Phildo |
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Blimey, as someone who was quite traumatised by this for several decades, I'd have loved to see one of them on the receiving end of that |  | | |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 15:34 - Dec 14 with 1501 views | CamberleyR |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 15:18 - Dec 14 by ericgen34 |
Blimey, as someone who was quite traumatised by this for several decades, I'd have loved to see one of them on the receiving end of that |
They were talking about the game last night. That podcast Twitter site has edited in the Schumacher/Battiston footage for a joke. [Post edited 14 Dec 2022 15:36]
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| FIFA World Cup thread. on 15:37 - Dec 14 with 1488 views | daveB |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 14:11 - Dec 14 by TheChef |
This was a really odd discussion - it almost felt like an intended audience wind-up because they didn't really have any other talking points! |
I agreed with Neville to be honest, The ball had already gone and he just runs into the keeper, thought it was harsh but once he gives it no chance VAR is going to over turn it | | | |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 16:01 - Dec 14 with 1457 views | PinnerPaul |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 15:37 - Dec 14 by daveB |
I agreed with Neville to be honest, The ball had already gone and he just runs into the keeper, thought it was harsh but once he gives it no chance VAR is going to over turn it |
The keeper deliberately blocked him off Dave.
100% agreement on RefChat and that's quite rare! | | | |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 16:20 - Dec 14 with 1448 views | ericgen34 |
| FIFA World Cup thread. on 15:34 - Dec 14 by CamberleyR |
They were talking about the game last night. That podcast Twitter site has edited in the Schumacher/Battiston footage for a joke. [Post edited 14 Dec 2022 15:36]
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oh! Thanks for clarifying that up, I was going to show it to some mates tonight haha :) | | | |
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