| tonight on 10:53 - Nov 6 with 1761 views | TheChef |
| tonight on 10:50 - Nov 6 by TK1 |
That's literally what - who - I'm suggesting. I don't think we've earned the right to pick Chair, Saito, Madsen and Varane in the same team - unless we have Field (or Hayden) as anchor. |
Look the Championship is largely about running harder than the other team and earning the right to play.
It's not rocket science and yet for ten years countless players and managers have failed to grasp the concept. |  |
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| tonight on 10:54 - Nov 6 with 1761 views | Hunterhoop |
| tonight on 10:50 - Nov 6 by TK1 |
That's literally what - who - I'm suggesting. I don't think we've earned the right to pick Chair, Saito, Madsen and Varane in the same team - unless we have Field (or Hayden) as anchor. |
Yeah, I know. I just wanted to make the point again that if you finish in the top 2, 2 years out of 3 in the Players Player of The Year vote, you really should be in the first team. They understand work rate, what goes on during a game, what goes on off the pitch, at training. They know who is leading and organising. They can recognise good play, both on and off the ball.
Instead we are trying to push him out. |  | | |
| tonight on 10:58 - Nov 6 with 1720 views | TacticalR |
| tonight on 07:57 - Nov 6 by GaryBannister86 |
Christ, Ned, I don't want to clap him. I don't want him to score. It was just an instinctive reaction to someone bending it in from 25 yards. Really don't see the problem. Maybe I should have proved my QPR credentials by being more like the bloke (or woman) who threw a meat pie at the Soton players for having the temerity to score a goal against us.
I will try and do better. |
Pie chucking is not that effective, especially after a player has scored. |  |
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| tonight on 10:58 - Nov 6 with 1719 views | nick_hammersmith |
| tonight on 09:26 - Nov 6 by OldPedro |
This - Southampton took our players out a few times in the last 15 mins knowing that they would get a yellow |
Massive SWP vibes, as he glided past him |  | | |
| tonight on 11:06 - Nov 6 with 1619 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| tonight on 10:46 - Nov 6 by TheChef |
Still can't believe that since 2015 people haven't realised - it doesn't matter who the manager, the players, the backroom staff are, we still serve up inconsistent dross. Season in, season out. |
Oh 1,000% we need a Warnock. Unfortunately, with the current set-up, that's about as unlikely as ever! |  | | |
| tonight on 11:12 - Nov 6 with 1558 views | Malintabuk |
| tonight on 10:10 - Nov 6 by TK1 |
Heckingbottom was appointed Preston manager in August 2024: finished 20th, we beat them home and away.
Robins was appointed in January, came 18th - three places below rubbish QPR.
Alex Neil is a very decent manager but Millwall are a magnificently-run club (comparatively) with an excellent DOF who should be doing the job at QPR. That's not about the manager. That's about the decisions our board have made appointing Nourry instead of Steve Gallen. Neil may well have been the QPR manager if SG had been given the job.
Nathan Jones is a horrible turd.
What the first two prove, though, is that if you give a manager more than three months of a season, and if they have anything about them, they'll come good. Still hopeful, based on the turnaround in that period after Coventry, that JS can come good. May take a season though. |
Not sure what the point you are trying to make
We had 2 years of Marti... and now he has moved on ... he is not pulling up trees at Leicester
As I said I'm not blaming JS... and there is a chance that in 12 months he can become a world beater... doubt it personally... but we hope
My point is all those managers, not only at their current clubs, but at other clubs, have proved what is needed in this division
But I do agree that the club is going down the wrong avenue. I would love to know what our business plan is. Sod results let's just buy young players to sell... well and good, but if I was a DOF at another club, I certainly wouldn't be knocking our door down for 90% of our lot
If though we are looking for promotion.... then this current plan is not working. Are we trying to reinvent the wheel...
I was talking to my mate this morning a Palace fan... who said even back in their promotion year, they had a team basically of big lumps, tricky pacey wingers... and a decent keeper.. | | | |
| tonight on 11:18 - Nov 6 with 1510 views | Rsole |
| tonight on 10:19 - Nov 6 by Hunterhoop |
According to the BBC, we put in 39 crosses (felt like almost all of them were after cutting back inside and clipping a floaty inswinger in), and Southampton made 58 clearances! 58!!
Very similar to Millwall. We dominated possession, territory, shots, xG, touches in box, BUT did we create many chances? Not really. Every ball in was comfortably pumped clear.
This tactic of stationing our wingers inside the oppo full back, between him and the centre half is infuriating. When Dunne or RND get it there is no one wide of them on the touchline to progress it to feet to. It means Smyth is playing with his back to goal (hardly a strength) and is rarely able to stand his man up to beat him on the outside. And it asks all our attacking width to come from the full backs, who aren’t exactly perfect for that role. AND it makes the middle of the pitch very congested, taking space away from Burrell, Kone, etc.
I actually thought RND was superb last night. Up and down the touchline, some great balls in, but why is it not our attacking wide players doing the attacking on the wing? I think the way we’re setting up positionally on the pitch and how we’re trying to play is hindering us as it is so easy to defend against. We don’t seem to have training ground attacking patterns in the final third. |
We may also be missing some defending and midfield patterns in the other 2/3rds of the pitch from the training ground.
There are days when I suspect that Heston is an AI generated image and the videos of the players come from a studio with a green screen. Probably don’t even need the screen for a deepfake these days.
I do also wonder if we may have more success just building an AI agent to do the selection, training and tactics - much like a monkey with a set of darts. Give it an accent, get it to shrug a bit and upload the LFW glossary, job done. |  |
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| tonight on 11:21 - Nov 6 with 1486 views | themodfather |
bump. back down to earth. hit again, like many other games, on the break and paid for it.
dodgy goalie , creating little , we have a small team overall . got to find the belief again. | | | |
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| tonight on 11:39 - Nov 6 with 1378 views | TK1 |
| tonight on 11:12 - Nov 6 by Malintabuk |
Not sure what the point you are trying to make
We had 2 years of Marti... and now he has moved on ... he is not pulling up trees at Leicester
As I said I'm not blaming JS... and there is a chance that in 12 months he can become a world beater... doubt it personally... but we hope
My point is all those managers, not only at their current clubs, but at other clubs, have proved what is needed in this division
But I do agree that the club is going down the wrong avenue. I would love to know what our business plan is. Sod results let's just buy young players to sell... well and good, but if I was a DOF at another club, I certainly wouldn't be knocking our door down for 90% of our lot
If though we are looking for promotion.... then this current plan is not working. Are we trying to reinvent the wheel...
I was talking to my mate this morning a Palace fan... who said even back in their promotion year, they had a team basically of big lumps, tricky pacey wingers... and a decent keeper.. |
The point I'm making is in reply to you saying why can't we have Mark Robins or Paul Heckingbotham because they're doing well this season: both were doing worse in their first six months at their current clubs than JS. Took a season to work out what was needed.
Marti Cifuentes, we will never know: 15th last season with a worse squad and a complete breakdown with the higher-ups. Another year at Rangers, who knows. Now he's having to start again, as are we - all that knowledge lost.
Agree about the squad balance. Maybe in two, three years Nourry will have also learnt what's needed squad-wise and how to manage it. Still think we hired the wrong person, but it what it is. Long term may work out. | | | |
| tonight on 11:55 - Nov 6 with 1297 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| tonight on 23:41 - Nov 5 by ted_hendrix |
Nobody was catching Scienza for their second goal, ran like fck from within his own half and planted the ball in the corner of our net. |
Bull. Scienza was given the freedom of Loftus Road by a midfield who didn't bust a gut to make a challenge and a defence that didn't want to go out to meet him. Varane particularly guilty on this occasion. Watch how he jogs just fast enough to be always be within 5 yards but never really stretches himself to actually get to Scienza and put him under pressure. |  | | |
| tonight on 11:57 - Nov 6 with 1267 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| tonight on 07:00 - Nov 6 by kernowhoop |
It was the sort of goal that Adel Taraabt might have scored, for us. |
The opposition would at least try to challenge Adel, he'd just nutmeg 3 players before scoring. [Post edited 6 Nov 12:10]
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| tonight on 12:08 - Nov 6 with 1208 views | Geoff78 |
We played well in spells and the stats support that. I know they don't tell you everything but we won the xG, had 20 shots to 9 and Nardi didn't have to make a save. We had over 3 times as many touches in the area and even our passing accuracy was better. Their keeper was busier and they only had 2 shots on target. I do know that it's goals that count.
But, very big but, some of those passes and touches in the area were predictable. When Saints controlled the ball they could pass more accurately, finding better angles and moved the ball quicker. Our defence has become very iffy. Mbengue, surprisingly, can be barged off the ball quite easily and Morisson never quite convinces. He was arguably at fault for both goals not getting close enough and not making a strong enough challenge. I like him but he doesn't dominate situations, although he has made some terrific goal line stops.
And then we come to the midfield. Clive has spent much of the last 2 seasons, maybe longer, explaining why a 2 man midfield doesn't work. We've got it away with it for the first few games when our new strikers, the pace in the team and Madsen's passing made teams wary. But now we're being worked out and players who haven't played at this level are now struggling, with the exception of Burrell. So, surprisingly, a 2 man midfield isn't enough to protect a vulnerable defence. Decisions for Stefan, but I can't see him putting more bodies in midfield yet.
In spite of that we were much better tonight. So we're 16th, our natural position. | | | |
| tonight on 12:13 - Nov 6 with 1183 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| tonight on 12:08 - Nov 6 by Geoff78 |
We played well in spells and the stats support that. I know they don't tell you everything but we won the xG, had 20 shots to 9 and Nardi didn't have to make a save. We had over 3 times as many touches in the area and even our passing accuracy was better. Their keeper was busier and they only had 2 shots on target. I do know that it's goals that count.
But, very big but, some of those passes and touches in the area were predictable. When Saints controlled the ball they could pass more accurately, finding better angles and moved the ball quicker. Our defence has become very iffy. Mbengue, surprisingly, can be barged off the ball quite easily and Morisson never quite convinces. He was arguably at fault for both goals not getting close enough and not making a strong enough challenge. I like him but he doesn't dominate situations, although he has made some terrific goal line stops.
And then we come to the midfield. Clive has spent much of the last 2 seasons, maybe longer, explaining why a 2 man midfield doesn't work. We've got it away with it for the first few games when our new strikers, the pace in the team and Madsen's passing made teams wary. But now we're being worked out and players who haven't played at this level are now struggling, with the exception of Burrell. So, surprisingly, a 2 man midfield isn't enough to protect a vulnerable defence. Decisions for Stefan, but I can't see him putting more bodies in midfield yet.
In spite of that we were much better tonight. So we're 16th, our natural position. |
The stats are misleading as most of that activity was in the last 15 minutes when we were chasing the game. At half time we'd registered zero shots. | | | |
| tonight on 12:23 - Nov 6 with 1138 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| tonight on 23:25 - Nov 5 by BrianMcCarthy |
Well, I thought we were better tonight,.
So how were we worse? |
I also think we were a little better than of late but that's not saying much as we've been pretty poor since the international break. Tactically I think Stephan got it wrong. Southampton have a lot of young players who like to play pretty football but don't enjoy the ugly side of the game. We made mistake of trying to beat them at their own game and paid the price. Once we switched to pumping the box with crosses and long balls, Southampton looked decidedly rattled. Unfortunately the damage had already been done and it was too little, too late. Has we started the match in the same manner we played the last 10-15 minutes, we probably would've got a result. | | | |
| tonight on 12:36 - Nov 6 with 1085 views | RangersDave3 |
| tonight on 22:43 - Nov 5 by Terry49 |
I thought we had a certain Mr Bould as defensive coach, what a laugh |
Hold on…..
We have a defensive coach? Wow, where is / was he? | | | |
| tonight on 12:52 - Nov 6 with 981 views | sdm1508 |
Varane is really getting on my nerves at the moment. Simple 5 yard passes going astray. So erratic. Will do something bad and then out muscle someone, win a tackle he shouldn't, stride forward and then either pass it back or take an age to get the pass off that he is under pressure and loses the ball.
He is good at recovery tackles but most times it is recovering from his own pointless mistake. I am not sure if it is concentration or think he is better than he currently is. There is a player in there but needs to get his head out his ass.
Thought Madsen had a very solid game. I think he would do even better with a CM partner who he knows what they will bring and what they will do. Hayden doesn't need to make recovery tackles as normally he is in the right position. Him or Field would have sprinted back to try and get a tackle in for the second goal. I can't remember if Dembele got booked earlier before their second goal and that's why he didn't bring him down | | | |
| tonight on 13:21 - Nov 6 with 893 views | calHoop |
| tonight on 23:41 - Nov 5 by ted_hendrix |
Nobody was catching Scienza for their second goal, ran like fck from within his own half and planted the ball in the corner of our net. |
The danger could have been stopped earlier, when there wasn't any danger, their centre mid took an elephant touch in midfield. Varane backed off, let him take a bath, read the paper and then turn to play the ball into him. It was scandalous | | | |
| tonight on 14:05 - Nov 6 with 799 views | R_from_afar |
| tonight on 08:04 - Nov 6 by Phildo |
Don't post much these days but just checking in to see if Noury is still cooking?
Good job the set piece coach reports to him as the manager sorry coach would be getting pelters otherwise. |
I know we already have more coaches than National Express, but can I propose a new position?
Head of Basics  . |  |
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| tonight on 14:28 - Nov 6 with 718 views | ted_hendrix |
| tonight on 13:21 - Nov 6 by calHoop |
The danger could have been stopped earlier, when there wasn't any danger, their centre mid took an elephant touch in midfield. Varane backed off, let him take a bath, read the paper and then turn to play the ball into him. It was scandalous |
I understand, I was trying to make the point that Scienza was given the freedom of Loftus Road. |  |
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