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Gab & Clives deep-dive 08:01 - Aug 2 with 22988 viewscheesy

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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:33 - Aug 3 with 2840 viewsdm97

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 16:11 - Aug 3 by Northernr

Yeh, spooky when you hear/read people/accounts parroting the lines back to you isn't it?

Injury problems overblown, same old voices covering QPR, Clive might be a journalist in a his day job but his passion gets the better of him with QPR etc etc.

It is what it is I'm afraid. That's how the club chooses to operate under Christian. It was very clear at the meeting in May where we stand now. I've lost enough sleep over it now and won't be losing any more.

LFW is going to be fcking brilliant this year. We've got a great stable of writers ready to go, we've got a fantastic podcast strand on a thriving Patreon, we're motivated and we're ready to go. If I was the club I'd be falling over myself to work with us. If they don't agree, that's fine, we'll do it without them.

But we're not going away.


Get it on a shirt (maybe just the last bit).
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:33 - Aug 3 with 2836 viewsBeckenhamhoop

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 16:11 - Aug 3 by Northernr

Yeh, spooky when you hear/read people/accounts parroting the lines back to you isn't it?

Injury problems overblown, same old voices covering QPR, Clive might be a journalist in a his day job but his passion gets the better of him with QPR etc etc.

It is what it is I'm afraid. That's how the club chooses to operate under Christian. It was very clear at the meeting in May where we stand now. I've lost enough sleep over it now and won't be losing any more.

LFW is going to be fcking brilliant this year. We've got a great stable of writers ready to go, we've got a fantastic podcast strand on a thriving Patreon, we're motivated and we're ready to go. If I was the club I'd be falling over myself to work with us. If they don't agree, that's fine, we'll do it without them.

But we're not going away.


If you’ve previously lost sleep then I’d suggest your ‘passion’ was getting the better of you. Good to hear you’ve had a change of approach.

I’ve not parroted anyone’s lines. If you seriously think that anyone who might see some aspects of the clubs operations differently to yourself is being briefed by CN then you really do just need to have a word with yourself.

Poll: Julian Stepháne…stick or twist

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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:50 - Aug 3 with 2744 viewsNorthernr

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:33 - Aug 3 by Beckenhamhoop

If you’ve previously lost sleep then I’d suggest your ‘passion’ was getting the better of you. Good to hear you’ve had a change of approach.

I’ve not parroted anyone’s lines. If you seriously think that anyone who might see some aspects of the clubs operations differently to yourself is being briefed by CN then you really do just need to have a word with yourself.


Does that count as one bite each?
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:53 - Aug 3 with 2731 viewsNorthernr

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:30 - Aug 3 by KensalT

Top marks for keeping a straight face when Gab referred to CN's "Western European suave nonchalance"

You're a better man than me!



It was more 'where do I recognise that from?' and it's here, 6 mins in...

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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:57 - Aug 3 with 2705 viewsHunterhoop

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:33 - Aug 3 by Beckenhamhoop

If you’ve previously lost sleep then I’d suggest your ‘passion’ was getting the better of you. Good to hear you’ve had a change of approach.

I’ve not parroted anyone’s lines. If you seriously think that anyone who might see some aspects of the clubs operations differently to yourself is being briefed by CN then you really do just need to have a word with yourself.


Pretty sure Clive didn’t write that at all…good straw man building.
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 18:22 - Aug 3 with 2617 viewsBeckenhamhoop

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:50 - Aug 3 by Northernr

Does that count as one bite each?


Oh go on then. 😘

Poll: Julian Stepháne…stick or twist

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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 18:26 - Aug 3 with 2603 viewsNorthernr

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 18:22 - Aug 3 by Beckenhamhoop

Oh go on then. 😘


Ok, 1-1, let's not do this to ourselves all season.
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 18:35 - Aug 3 with 2583 viewsBeckenhamhoop

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 18:26 - Aug 3 by Northernr

Ok, 1-1, let's not do this to ourselves all season.


There’ll be no need. As we”re finishing in the top eight this season LFW will be a haven of joy and positivity.

Poll: Julian Stepháne…stick or twist

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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 18:58 - Aug 3 with 2524 viewsqueensparker

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 16:11 - Aug 3 by Northernr

Yeh, spooky when you hear/read people/accounts parroting the lines back to you isn't it?

Injury problems overblown, same old voices covering QPR, Clive might be a journalist in a his day job but his passion gets the better of him with QPR etc etc.

It is what it is I'm afraid. That's how the club chooses to operate under Christian. It was very clear at the meeting in May where we stand now. I've lost enough sleep over it now and won't be losing any more.

LFW is going to be fcking brilliant this year. We've got a great stable of writers ready to go, we've got a fantastic podcast strand on a thriving Patreon, we're motivated and we're ready to go. If I was the club I'd be falling over myself to work with us. If they don't agree, that's fine, we'll do it without them.

But we're not going away.


If this is the current situation between you and QPR, it means you’re doing a good job.

Never want it to be too cosy, we’ve seen where that leads in the past.

Getting cross with the media for telling the truth is a deeply unwelcome trend among many of today’s leaders, and massively counterproductive

Keep it up Clive looking forward to seeing what’s coming
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 19:12 - Aug 3 with 2491 viewsytt28

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:53 - Aug 3 by Northernr

It was more 'where do I recognise that from?' and it's here, 6 mins in...



Christain said something very interesting in that interview. He said he doesnt want to be the loudest voice in the room! Is that because he wants to be the only voice in the room?
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 09:18 - Aug 4 with 2146 viewsTheChef

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 17:30 - Aug 3 by KensalT

Top marks for keeping a straight face when Gab referred to CN's "Western European suave nonchalance"

You're a better man than me!



Pff that's a St Paul's School education, donchaknow...

Poll: How old is everyone on here?

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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 10:34 - Aug 4 with 2028 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 16:11 - Aug 3 by Northernr

Yeh, spooky when you hear/read people/accounts parroting the lines back to you isn't it?

Injury problems overblown, same old voices covering QPR, Clive might be a journalist in a his day job but his passion gets the better of him with QPR etc etc.

It is what it is I'm afraid. That's how the club chooses to operate under Christian. It was very clear at the meeting in May where we stand now. I've lost enough sleep over it now and won't be losing any more.

LFW is going to be fcking brilliant this year. We've got a great stable of writers ready to go, we've got a fantastic podcast strand on a thriving Patreon, we're motivated and we're ready to go. If I was the club I'd be falling over myself to work with us. If they don't agree, that's fine, we'll do it without them.

But we're not going away.


Really bizarre behaviour not to engage with someone who may be critical from time to time - it just looks weak. Nourry really doesn't help himself sometimes (and I'm saying that as someone who thinks he has done some good stuff, like addressing the goalkeeping situation which they cocked up last season).
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 11:41 - Aug 4 with 1946 viewsenfieldargh

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 20:43 - Aug 2 by QPROslo

Yeah, essentially he's great 50% of the time and crap the other 50. He looks much fitter and quicker now than he did last season.


Doesn’t look like he could run 5 yards very knowledgable mind

captains fantastic
Poll: If/when VAR is introduced to the championship (if we’re still in it) would you

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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 12:26 - Aug 4 with 1867 viewsHunterhoop

Gab is great. It’s easy to criticise but he’s the most informed pundit out there on the EFL. He really seems to listen to his interviewees. And producing this level of content on every side is no mean feat. He might occasionally be a bit verbose, but I think he’s simply trying to be measured and rounded.

It’s great content.

As is Clive’s and LFW’s season preview.

We’re lucky to get them all.
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:10 - Aug 4 with 1765 viewsrobith

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 15:48 - Aug 2 by Northernr

We grabbed Gab afterwards to get his 'three to watch and three to worry about' ahead of him dropping his 1-24 predictions on Friday. You can watch/listen to that now on our Patreon...

https://www.patreon.com/LoftFo


Always worth listening to. I remember him putting Sunderland up 2 years ago as his shout for promotion and his feed was nothing but abuse. Looked pretty smart come May
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:35 - Aug 4 with 1679 viewsKensalT

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:10 - Aug 4 by robith

Always worth listening to. I remember him putting Sunderland up 2 years ago as his shout for promotion and his feed was nothing but abuse. Looked pretty smart come May


He did get that one right, and it was quite a call. But back in 2023 he was the only pundit not predicting us to go down. His reasoning was that Gareth Ainsworth had done a great job at Wycombe and was underrated. So he doesn't get them all right.
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:52 - Aug 4 with 1621 viewsrobith

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:35 - Aug 4 by KensalT

He did get that one right, and it was quite a call. But back in 2023 he was the only pundit not predicting us to go down. His reasoning was that Gareth Ainsworth had done a great job at Wycombe and was underrated. So he doesn't get them all right.


Bookies still pay out even if your working is wrong
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:55 - Aug 4 with 1611 viewsBukim_Dano

I was interested in Gab’s suggestion that our style of play under JS, involving more pressing etc could have been a contributory factor in our injury problems last season. I’ve wondered about this, too, and also whether JS’s failure to rotate Madsen and Birrell made them more vulnerable.

That doesn’t mean I have a particular problem with JS - it’s just that our injury issues shouldnt just be attributed to Ben Williams. When you add in a recruitment policy that seems to prepared to take risks on players with known injury histories, it seems to me this has been a collective failure rather than a singular one.
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:56 - Aug 4 with 1596 viewsKensalT

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:52 - Aug 4 by robith

Bookies still pay out even if your working is wrong


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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 14:14 - Aug 4 with 1527 viewsHunterhoop

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:55 - Aug 4 by Bukim_Dano

I was interested in Gab’s suggestion that our style of play under JS, involving more pressing etc could have been a contributory factor in our injury problems last season. I’ve wondered about this, too, and also whether JS’s failure to rotate Madsen and Birrell made them more vulnerable.

That doesn’t mean I have a particular problem with JS - it’s just that our injury issues shouldnt just be attributed to Ben Williams. When you add in a recruitment policy that seems to prepared to take risks on players with known injury histories, it seems to me this has been a collective failure rather than a singular one.


He’s on an adjacent path to what I have heard from someone who really should know.

Apparently Stephan’s pre-season training involves a ball very early on, unlike a lot of traditional head coaches (where it’s running, drills, and strength and conditioning stuff before you get a ball out). Apparently (I am not qualified to know if this is true or not) using a ball early if the players’ bodies aren’t ready and/or the fitness and conditioning team aren’t on the same page with the work they’re putting the players through, can result in more injuries. That is main reason given for last season’s injuries.

This pre-season, they’ve had a year to plan. This summer the players came back a week or more early (compared to last year), which I reckon was part of the efforts to correct what happened last year whilst also enabling Stephan to get the balls out when he wanted.

Now, I’m not sure that explains Poku tearing one hamstring twice and the other once, across the season. Or Madsen and Burrell getting injuries in early Jan. But that’s the thinking. It’s not Stephan’s playing style, it’s his pre-season training preferences, which took the club by surprise.

No excuses this year though. We’ve had a year to plan for pre-season, and the club have had a whole season to understand Stephan’s playing style too…
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 14:15 - Aug 4 with 1521 viewswill16macgill

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 16:11 - Aug 3 by Northernr

Yeh, spooky when you hear/read people/accounts parroting the lines back to you isn't it?

Injury problems overblown, same old voices covering QPR, Clive might be a journalist in a his day job but his passion gets the better of him with QPR etc etc.

It is what it is I'm afraid. That's how the club chooses to operate under Christian. It was very clear at the meeting in May where we stand now. I've lost enough sleep over it now and won't be losing any more.

LFW is going to be fcking brilliant this year. We've got a great stable of writers ready to go, we've got a fantastic podcast strand on a thriving Patreon, we're motivated and we're ready to go. If I was the club I'd be falling over myself to work with us. If they don't agree, that's fine, we'll do it without them.

But we're not going away.


I may have missed this somewhere, but what happened at the meeting in May? is there somewhere that details this?
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 14:22 - Aug 4 with 1503 viewseastside_r

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:10 - Aug 4 by robith

Always worth listening to. I remember him putting Sunderland up 2 years ago as his shout for promotion and his feed was nothing but abuse. Looked pretty smart come May


He’s been ‘dining out’ on that ever since.
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 14:23 - Aug 4 with 1499 viewsNorthernr

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 14:15 - Aug 4 by will16macgill

I may have missed this somewhere, but what happened at the meeting in May? is there somewhere that details this?


The audio of the on the record bit of the meeting is free to listen to, it's on our Patreon, link below.

I think quite apart from anything else, listen to how our questions are dealt with versus other people's.

https://www.patreon.com/LoftFo
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 14:35 - Aug 4 with 1459 viewsdaveB

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 13:35 - Aug 4 by KensalT

He did get that one right, and it was quite a call. But back in 2023 he was the only pundit not predicting us to go down. His reasoning was that Gareth Ainsworth had done a great job at Wycombe and was underrated. So he doesn't get them all right.


to be fair we didn't go down
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Gab & Clives deep-dive on 14:58 - Aug 4 with 1422 viewsRatKingCole

Gab & Clives deep-dive on 14:23 - Aug 4 by Northernr

The audio of the on the record bit of the meeting is free to listen to, it's on our Patreon, link below.

I think quite apart from anything else, listen to how our questions are dealt with versus other people's.

https://www.patreon.com/LoftFo


I forgot about this, and how snippy he was with you. Did they follow up with the numbers around tickets being used incorrectly as CN said they would? Not that you may be able to post here ofc.
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