| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 19:47 - Dec 28 with 3580 views | terryb |
Thanks Clive. I can't disagree with much/any of that.
I thought that Billing was immense in the Bournemouth midfield & ran the show. Lerna was also good, but he was as despicable as Pearson always is.
Another shout out for Cahill following the last minute shenanigans. Once again he told Lerna to behave himself when Dykes took exception to his removal of the ball. Thankfully, Lyndon controlled himself, though it looked as if he wanted to deck him! |  | |  |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 19:49 - Dec 28 with 3576 views | Northernr |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 19:47 - Dec 28 by terryb |
Thanks Clive. I can't disagree with much/any of that.
I thought that Billing was immense in the Bournemouth midfield & ran the show. Lerna was also good, but he was as despicable as Pearson always is.
Another shout out for Cahill following the last minute shenanigans. Once again he told Lerna to behave himself when Dykes took exception to his removal of the ball. Thankfully, Lyndon controlled himself, though it looked as if he wanted to deck him! |
Yeh Cahill went up in my estimation a lot there. Given all the John Terry and Chelsea abuse he took through both games, I'd have thought he'd have been very tempted to join in, not intervene. |  | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 19:56 - Dec 28 with 3547 views | ManinBlack |
I assume thanks to the ref being a joke that the FA will fine both clubs for failing to control their players and we will get the bigger fine for the red card as a result. |  | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 20:01 - Dec 28 with 3527 views | EmpireStateRanger |
Great as usual, Clive.
Like I said in another thread, the result wasn't too surprising given the lengthy break + the predictably shocking reffing, but that second half was dreadful. Almost the exact opposite of the one we played at their place.
Hope we continue to shake off the rust this Thursday. | | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 20:11 - Dec 28 with 3483 views | Mick_S |
“The dwarf that Disney forgot to draw” - estupendo. |  |
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| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 20:47 - Dec 28 with 3369 views | GloryHunter |
Exactly as I saw it, Clive. Well done for remaining clear-headed enough to be able to write it up so objectively. |  | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 20:57 - Dec 28 with 3324 views | flynnbo |
Agree with the reason for Pearson's yellow. |  | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 22:28 - Dec 28 with 3096 views | daveB |
excellent report as ever although disagree on the penalty appeal on Johanssen, that's a foul anywhere else on the pitch. At the other end he'd give a penalty. They were lucky to get away with a player trying to punch the ball off Dickies head as well but he just missed it |  | | |
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| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 00:10 - Dec 29 with 2879 views | westberksr |
all very fair bar the 4 for the chap in the middle with a massive case of 'short man syndrome' , 2 would have probably been accurate.
Not sure what the grading of sub 5/10 is but given his complete inability to control the game or for his team of officials to completely miss several blatant acts of time wasting and kicking away of the ball 4 sounds generous.
a couple of the scrappy penalty box moments towards the end may have produced an undeserving but morally fair equaliser, but we just have to accept that they are in the top tier of this division; despite their recent poor form. |  | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 07:12 - Dec 29 with 2672 views | Rangers67 |
Fair assessment overall and agree that Bournemouth were better on the day and could have won by more. But to say Stroud blatant biased refereeing did not really affect the outcome is stretching it . His malign anti QPR and pro Opposition stance throughout his games involving QPR cannot be ignored. And has been said even when playing a team clearly better than us on the day these small margins are magnified by biased refereeing. I am deliberately not using words like incompetent as this guys performances when in charge go way beyond this. However , the club do bear some responsibility by not making it clear to the laughingly called authorities that we don,t want this clown anywhere near one of our fixtures ever again. One silver lining sadly , as soon as I saw he was the ref I went and had a bet on a QPR loss, something I would never normally do but that gives you some indication of how nailed on this result was. | | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 07:47 - Dec 29 with 2638 views | distortR |
Marginal gains for Bournemouth with Stroud in charge, isn't it? He didn't give them an absurd penalty, but they get the debatable freekick for the goal and then, when one of our players gets past Cahill and he, beaten all ends up, feigns a foul, they get that as well. | | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 08:10 - Dec 29 with 2596 views | FrankRightguard |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 07:12 - Dec 29 by Rangers67 |
Fair assessment overall and agree that Bournemouth were better on the day and could have won by more. But to say Stroud blatant biased refereeing did not really affect the outcome is stretching it . His malign anti QPR and pro Opposition stance throughout his games involving QPR cannot be ignored. And has been said even when playing a team clearly better than us on the day these small margins are magnified by biased refereeing. I am deliberately not using words like incompetent as this guys performances when in charge go way beyond this. However , the club do bear some responsibility by not making it clear to the laughingly called authorities that we don,t want this clown anywhere near one of our fixtures ever again. One silver lining sadly , as soon as I saw he was the ref I went and had a bet on a QPR loss, something I would never normally do but that gives you some indication of how nailed on this result was. |
Blaming the club for Stroud refereeing our games? Clubs can’t just pick and choose which officials they do and do not want. But the EFL and PGMOL should be noting the reports they get back and making more considered appointments off the back of them.
For him to have this game off the back of his display in the reverse and so soon after the farce he and his linesman caused against Sunderland was bizarre. |  | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 10:53 - Dec 29 with 2313 views | Hooping_Mad |
Albert has just had a 3 week break and he can play 20 minutes? Christ on a bike the medical staff must be direct from the the effing WHO to be so careful.
No, come on Warbs game management does have to be questioned here, not going in OTT but really 20 minutes from the end was our best chance at recovering something from the game? Have to disagree.
Game management is key, Warbs appears to need to get a new one cut.
Can't disagree with the rest except Stroud getting a 4, think that was a bit generous too | |
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| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 10:55 - Dec 29 with 2306 views | Northernr |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 10:53 - Dec 29 by Hooping_Mad |
Albert has just had a 3 week break and he can play 20 minutes? Christ on a bike the medical staff must be direct from the the effing WHO to be so careful.
No, come on Warbs game management does have to be questioned here, not going in OTT but really 20 minutes from the end was our best chance at recovering something from the game? Have to disagree.
Game management is key, Warbs appears to need to get a new one cut.
Can't disagree with the rest except Stroud getting a 4, think that was a bit generous too |
He's just back from an injury. | | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:04 - Dec 29 with 2278 views | Hooping_Mad |
He looked pretty fit to be fair, unlike Wallace who didn't look right.
Wallace needs more management than Uncs in the injury dept I'd say. Surprised Wallace came out for the second half tbh. | |
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| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:06 - Dec 29 with 2253 views | Northernr |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:04 - Dec 29 by Hooping_Mad |
He looked pretty fit to be fair, unlike Wallace who didn't look right.
Wallace needs more management than Uncs in the injury dept I'd say. Surprised Wallace came out for the second half tbh. |
But, to the point in the report, I reckon the medical, sports science and coaching staff probably have a better idea of who's where on the fitness and injury scale than we do based on who doesn't look right. | | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:08 - Dec 29 with 2243 views | PinnerPaul |
Sooooooooooooo the SJ penalty wasn't, Field's foul was (OK debateable if you like, but not 'diabolical') Dozzell's 2 yellows perfectly fine and erm that's it.
Mass confrontation is always the referee's fault and I feel about that football myth as you do about Mr Stroud - lets leave it there while both our blood pressures are just about low enough to spare us A & E!  | | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:09 - Dec 29 with 2236 views | PinnerPaul |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 19:49 - Dec 28 by Northernr |
Yeh Cahill went up in my estimation a lot there. Given all the John Terry and Chelsea abuse he took through both games, I'd have thought he'd have been very tempted to join in, not intervene. |
Yeah, he was good when Dykes pushed him into the advertising as well, shook Dykes hand and told 3 idiots from his own team who wanted to get involved to erm.... "go away" | | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:11 - Dec 29 with 2223 views | Hooping_Mad |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:06 - Dec 29 by Northernr |
But, to the point in the report, I reckon the medical, sports science and coaching staff probably have a better idea of who's where on the fitness and injury scale than we do based on who doesn't look right. |
I'll agree to disagree on this one.
As I said. Wallace needs looking after, Uncs less so | |
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| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:13 - Dec 29 with 2206 views | Northernr |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:11 - Dec 29 by Hooping_Mad |
I'll agree to disagree on this one.
As I said. Wallace needs looking after, Uncs less so |
Are you actually saying you know more about this than the medical staff who work with these players every day? | | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:21 - Dec 29 with 2185 views | Hooping_Mad |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:13 - Dec 29 by Northernr |
Are you actually saying you know more about this than the medical staff who work with these players every day? |
Calm down dear, it's just an opposing opinion not a personal attack.
No I'm not claiming any knowledge what so ever, just stating an opinion on a football forum, come on.
Wallace has just returned from a long absence and got 70 mins all while not "looking" good. after he broke down in the last match he played in.
I am simply comparing the two players speed of return. Wallace returned in a starting line up then broke down again.
Medical staff were correct on that as well were they? | |
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| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:23 - Dec 29 with 2166 views | derbyhoop |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:08 - Dec 29 by PinnerPaul |
Sooooooooooooo the SJ penalty wasn't, Field's foul was (OK debateable if you like, but not 'diabolical') Dozzell's 2 yellows perfectly fine and erm that's it.
Mass confrontation is always the referee's fault and I feel about that football myth as you do about Mr Stroud - lets leave it there while both our blood pressures are just about low enough to spare us A & E! |
Fair enough to defend referees in general, but the sort of melee at the end seems to happen too much when K Stroud is the man in the middle.
He lost control of a spicy game that meant a lot to both sides.
If he'd clamped down earlier on some of the play acting (Lerma) and time wasting (kicking the ball into the Bournemouth fans in the 92nd minute), would we have had that fracas at the end? |  |
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| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:28 - Dec 29 with 2138 views | PinnerPaul |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:23 - Dec 29 by derbyhoop |
Fair enough to defend referees in general, but the sort of melee at the end seems to happen too much when K Stroud is the man in the middle.
He lost control of a spicy game that meant a lot to both sides.
If he'd clamped down earlier on some of the play acting (Lerma) and time wasting (kicking the ball into the Bournemouth fans in the 92nd minute), would we have had that fracas at the end? |
That's a fair point about the amount of melees that happen in his games.
In this one I thought he did what he could about their antics.
He refused treatment for at least two players and as we've discussed before that is a brave/dangerous/foolish precedent to set.
You would agree, I hope, that players have to take responsibility for their behaviour - as we've discussed Mr Cahill showed you can win, play well and not be a complete a*** at the same time! | | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:38 - Dec 29 with 2080 views | gazza1 |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:23 - Dec 29 by derbyhoop |
Fair enough to defend referees in general, but the sort of melee at the end seems to happen too much when K Stroud is the man in the middle.
He lost control of a spicy game that meant a lot to both sides.
If he'd clamped down earlier on some of the play acting (Lerma) and time wasting (kicking the ball into the Bournemouth fans in the 92nd minute), would we have had that fracas at the end? |
I would suggest that the players 'lost control' at the end and not Stroud...... | | | |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:48 - Dec 29 with 2052 views | gazza1 |
| Familiar refereeing complaints struggle to mask QPR shortcomings — Report on 11:21 - Dec 29 by Hooping_Mad |
Calm down dear, it's just an opposing opinion not a personal attack.
No I'm not claiming any knowledge what so ever, just stating an opinion on a football forum, come on.
Wallace has just returned from a long absence and got 70 mins all while not "looking" good. after he broke down in the last match he played in.
I am simply comparing the two players speed of return. Wallace returned in a starting line up then broke down again.
Medical staff were correct on that as well were they? |
I believe that MW allows the medical teams to dictate what should & should not be done with players returning from injury.....MW would generally agree the way forward with them prior to the match but this could change depending on the game and how it is going.
We do not know the extent of the injuries, nor do we know MW game plan.
So, maybe the agreement was that Wallace would have around 60/70 minutes (whether we are winning, loosing or drawing) as part of his rehabilitation/fitness otherwise there could be further problems. Re Albert, perhaps the plan was to give him 20 minutes at the end to get him started in first team action.
Basically, none of us really know wtf the plans are or anything in real proper details.
I agree, though, that I would have liked to see Albert earlier but the picture is much bigger that one match. | | | |
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