| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) 00:01 - Dec 10 with 8074 views | stainrods_elbow |
Anyone experienced/experiencing this?
What/who did you blame (if anyone)?
How did you handle it?
Did you falll back in?
Is it me getting older and emptier, or am I deluded that the game's just not what was, we fans are an irrelevance/encumbrance (Hillsborough, Paris, Qatar - though some of whom are also tw*ts, which doens't help)?
Answers to my therapist!
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| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 00:07 - Dec 10 with 4686 views | lightwaterhoop |
No just when i feel like that something will remind me of why i love QPR and the game of football. |  | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 00:10 - Dec 10 with 4679 views | stainrods_elbow |
And what is it to love QPR (cf. Theseus' ship paradox) when the players change, the staff change, the ground changes, and the only thing that remains is the name (and maybe an idea or feeling associated with it)? | |
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| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 00:16 - Dec 10 with 4662 views | HuckerMOTM |
The game I fell in love with doesn't exist anymore at the top level and has been replaced by by a new sport with similarities but a new sport nevertheless and one which I can't stand for the most part.
Who's to blame?
The clubs for morphing into brands obsessed with PR.
The media for hyping everything up to ridiculous levels.
The governing bodies for allowing the sanitisation of the sport and the excessive introduction of technology to appease the armchair fans and TV companies.
The Johnny Come Latelys and young fans for creating an alien language around the sport which when you analyse it says a lot but nothing.
The obsession with stats and the introduction of pure nonsense like xG which is aimed at the FIFA generation.
How do I manage it?
Spending more time at Non League matches and less time at QPR games and this will probably be my last ever season going to Loftus Road.
Also, spend a lot of time watching old matches on DVD/YouTube to remind me how great the game was which makes it easier to walk away. | | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 00:17 - Dec 10 with 4660 views | HuckerMOTM |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 00:10 - Dec 10 by stainrods_elbow |
And what is it to love QPR (cf. Theseus' ship paradox) when the players change, the staff change, the ground changes, and the only thing that remains is the name (and maybe an idea or feeling associated with it)? |
QPR FC died a while ago, it's a tribute act now. | | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 00:22 - Dec 10 with 4643 views | stainrods_elbow |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 00:17 - Dec 10 by HuckerMOTM |
QPR FC died a while ago, it's a tribute act now. |
The class-hating, culture-reengineering and authorities' shame-covering imposition of all-seater stadiums was/is a big factor for me. That wave of love I experienced on the top tier at Wembley in 1982 (me and half a dozen schoolfriends) will stay with me forever but never be replicated. (I've always felt I go to QPR to be able to throw my arms round stranger Rangers.) [Post edited 10 Dec 2022 0:23]
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| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 00:25 - Dec 10 with 4632 views | HuckerMOTM |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 00:22 - Dec 10 by stainrods_elbow |
The class-hating, culture-reengineering and authorities' shame-covering imposition of all-seater stadiums was/is a big factor for me. That wave of love I experienced on the top tier at Wembley in 1982 (me and half a dozen schoolfriends) will stay with me forever but never be replicated. (I've always felt I go to QPR to be able to throw my arms round stranger Rangers.) [Post edited 10 Dec 2022 0:23]
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When you acknowledge you go out of habit it's time to reassess things. | | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 01:02 - Dec 10 with 4549 views | PunteR |
Nice try Elbow. |  |
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| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 01:26 - Dec 10 with 4521 views | SydneyRs |
QPR no, although they certainly test you.
Modern club football absolutely yes, due to teams just buying success.
The world cup for all it's faults is maybe the one of the few true competitions left, as you can't just buy top players from around the world. Also the Euros I guess. | | | |
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| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 08:06 - Dec 10 with 4314 views | distortR |
Enjoying the world cup, but I have to say, though I'll always love Rangers, the beale thing, allied to ffp, my dislike of the celebrity culture that pervades the upper echelons of the game etc etc, has got me into a "whats the point" mood. | | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football on 08:17 - Dec 10 with 4288 views | LadbrokeR |
I’ve have experienced this to some extent. I am 61 years old and had been a season ticket holder for years. Mum was seriously ill in 2019 and we used to visit her at west Middlesex hospital before home games and then get the 237 to the bush. Mum passed in September 2019. Anyway I then went to India returning February 2020 just as lockdown struck and then watched games alone on a screen being played in empty grounds. It was at this point I thought that things were just boring. I went to Germany, Denmark and and Italy in the Euros. I’ve never renewed my season ticket and quite honestly feel less bothered about things. I’m an England member that has stopped going and ex season ticket that used to go home and away. I can’t entirely put my finger on it . Clearly it’s not the lack of success as that’s just part of following Rangers. | | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 08:20 - Dec 10 with 4283 views | NorthantsHoop |
Never really fell out of love with football, but drifted away from going to QPR for 28 years 1986 to 2014, due to Milk Cup final disappointment, got married, moved away, kids, work etc. Love for QPR big time reignited on getting invited to the 2014 play off final, loved it again, now been a season ticket holder since then. Meet old friends, made new friends, enjoy football and going to Loftus Road probably more these days, even though live 60 miles from London. The game is different but in essence is the same, the biggest improvement though is the standard of the pitches, they are like bowling greens, imagine some of the Rangers great players of the past and what they would have been able to do on pitches of the current era. |  | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 08:37 - Dec 10 with 4243 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
However crap modern football can be, with sportswashing, VAR and Sam Matterfacezzzzz, it's impossible to fall out of love with the game once you're hooked. When Mbappe (or Chrissy Willock) gets the ball, you still get that visceral thrill of watching something incredible. [Post edited 10 Dec 2022 8:38]
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| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 08:47 - Dec 10 with 4216 views | stevec |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 08:37 - Dec 10 by Wegerles_Stairs |
However crap modern football can be, with sportswashing, VAR and Sam Matterfacezzzzz, it's impossible to fall out of love with the game once you're hooked. When Mbappe (or Chrissy Willock) gets the ball, you still get that visceral thrill of watching something incredible. [Post edited 10 Dec 2022 8:38]
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Indeed. The highs and lows are unmatchable in any other spectator sport.
Could never fall out of love with QPR whatever they throw at me, and even though my interest has wained a little away from QPR, seeing the climax to the Brazil and Argentina games yesterday reminds you how great the game still is. |  | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 08:56 - Dec 10 with 4196 views | essextaxiboy |
Sky have changed the game into what we have now . IMO it has been detrimental for older fans like me . For younger fans it is all they have known so they cant be blamed for loving the excess hype and money .
I had half a season at Biillericay Town in the Paladini era . Back for good in the Jan. My heart wasnt in it .
I take a bit of solace in that the Rangers are a bit different and being a fan is never boring . |  | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 09:20 - Dec 10 with 4126 views | davman |
I have never lost my love for all things QPR, but it has changed over the years. Primarily, I think it really is a young person's game. Everything matters that much more when you are younger, you tend to meet up with more mates ahead of the games and it is the centrepiece of a social weekend.
As with others I slowed up going (but never stopped) around 2008-2012 up until my boy turned 6 and started wanting to come with me. When he caught the bug over the next three years, that was it, the love came back but for very different reasons - this was dad and son time; mum just not interested. Very different experience from the first time round, but a good one.
Of course, this would not be a thread if we had been even slightly good since 1994; bar one season we haven't, which is why it is easy to slip away... |  |
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| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 09:35 - Dec 10 with 4089 views | terryb |
Of course the game has changed, as has everything in life!
Personally, I think you're deluded about how football & Queens Park Rangers were in the past.
Dodgy owners/directors? We had our share of those, with Jim Gregory & John Bloom heading the queue
Dodgy managers? Again, we had a full quota. These include my least favourite manager & possibly the best manager we have had.
Gamesmanship? We were full of it in the 80's & played on the worst playing surface that has graced The Football League. We went from "everybodies second favourite team" to one of the most disliked clubs. The pitch had a lot to do with that of course.
Racism/homophobia? This was rampant throughout the 20th century. It still exists, but the level has decreased.
Hooliganism? The same as under racism.
Fans have been an irrelevance throughout my lifetime & if anything I would say that we are treated better now than previously.
The "good old days" were really not much different to the years prior to us or the years as we've grown older. | | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 09:37 - Dec 10 with 4086 views | LimehouseR |
Since the promotion to the Premier League with Warnock and Co. I have slowly drifted away from supporting QPR and Football in general.
The drift has peaked with this World Cup. I've not watched a single match, not even a single second of any of the games out of principle. People at work keep saying 'yeah you'll watch the Wales match, oh but it is the knock outs now, you'll watch the Senegal match...' Etc. I really am not bothered and even tonight I have only a very tiny voice saying "Watch the match!" but I won't. A tournament built on corruption, death and hypocrisy.
I am not so old that I can't say I've been to 1000s of games but I do remember going to matches with friends home and away when I was younger and it was great, even if the football wasn't always. Now, there just isn't the buzz any more and like people have listed the game just doesn't seem 'marketed' for the likes of me any more. Depending on the commentators I actually prefer just listening on the radio as a hark back to something a bit more old school but even this has mentions of xG and turn overs (shudders).
It's a shame but just means I have more time to do other things in life. I still follow QPR and I still read this message board as a last refuge of the damned because of the (largely) interesting views and opinions and the fantastic articles which you won't really find anywhere else. And I still punch my fist at a last minute winner but it really isn't the same any more. Beale being the latest kick in the teeth of any integrity left in the game... |  | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 09:37 - Dec 10 with 4085 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
It was never just about football when it comes to QPR anyway so nothings changed with that. The sport in general particularly at the top I’m not bothered about at all now.
Last night I turned on the TV and watched 5 mins of the Netherlands v Argentina. Saw them go 2-0 up with the ‘penalty’ and thought that’s that then ( ). Stuck on a Hitchcock DVD instead. |  |
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| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 09:51 - Dec 10 with 4039 views | HuckerMOTM |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 08:56 - Dec 10 by essextaxiboy |
Sky have changed the game into what we have now . IMO it has been detrimental for older fans like me . For younger fans it is all they have known so they cant be blamed for loving the excess hype and money .
I had half a season at Biillericay Town in the Paladini era . Back for good in the Jan. My heart wasnt in it .
I take a bit of solace in that the Rangers are a bit different and being a fan is never boring . |
Really random, but I think we met whilst queuing for a burger at Wealdstone before the friendly unless there's more Billericay Rangers out there! | | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 10:10 - Dec 10 with 3978 views | HuckerMOTM |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 09:35 - Dec 10 by terryb |
Of course the game has changed, as has everything in life!
Personally, I think you're deluded about how football & Queens Park Rangers were in the past.
Dodgy owners/directors? We had our share of those, with Jim Gregory & John Bloom heading the queue
Dodgy managers? Again, we had a full quota. These include my least favourite manager & possibly the best manager we have had.
Gamesmanship? We were full of it in the 80's & played on the worst playing surface that has graced The Football League. We went from "everybodies second favourite team" to one of the most disliked clubs. The pitch had a lot to do with that of course.
Racism/homophobia? This was rampant throughout the 20th century. It still exists, but the level has decreased.
Hooliganism? The same as under racism.
Fans have been an irrelevance throughout my lifetime & if anything I would say that we are treated better now than previously.
The "good old days" were really not much different to the years prior to us or the years as we've grown older. |
The 'Good Old Days' were far better.
It was an affordable pastime and you didn't need to buy tickets months in advance to see most matches but simply turn up at the gate.
The hooligan issue was present but is now significantly blown out of all proportion. It wasn't half as bad as people who werent there make out.
Homophobia? Wasn't even discussed because everyone knew that it wasn't an issue, it's something which has retrospectively been thrown at the game by people who weren't there.
Racism, clearly better now but watch The Big Match replay consistently and, again, it becomes obvious quite quickly that it is something which has subsequently been blown out of proportion and those 'ever present monkey chants' were seldom heard on the terraces. Idiots will always be Idiots and there's not a lot less now than the mid 80s.
Finally, in the 1980s Nottingham Forest and Aston Villa won the European Cup.
Ipswich Town won the UEFA Cup.
Oxford and Luton won the League Cup.
Wimbledon and Coventry City won the FA Cup.
QPR, Southampton, Watford, Brighton and Oldham came close to winning major honours....
Don't tell me it's looking back thorough nostalgic tinged glasses... [Post edited 10 Dec 2022 10:11]
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| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 10:44 - Dec 10 with 3915 views | GloryHunter |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 01:26 - Dec 10 by SydneyRs |
QPR no, although they certainly test you.
Modern club football absolutely yes, due to teams just buying success.
The world cup for all it's faults is maybe the one of the few true competitions left, as you can't just buy top players from around the world. Also the Euros I guess. |
. . . you can't just buy top players from around the world . . .
But you can take players who weren't even born in your country and give them passports. |  | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 10:53 - Dec 10 with 3889 views | dsw2509 |
I had a season ticket from 1984 until 2009. I did go to s few games after that but then had a gap from 2013 until the Wigan game recently (more on that below). I then got married, moved abroad for a while and generally got out of the habit.
I loved my seat in what was then the Ellerslie. 8 rows back and right on the half way line. Just about the best view in the ground. I did get fed up with the lack of space. As I got older it irked me more and more. And the promotion was a decidedly mixed blessing for me. All those players just in it for the money and couldn’t care less about us. A being in a league where success lies in being the 4th worst team. I didn’t want any part of it.
I took my wife along to the Wigan game. We sat in SAR. Much more space!! We absolutely loved it. We live quite far away now but will try and get along 2-3 times a year.
Looking back at the last 40 years, the first half of it (pre PL) was great. I didn’t expect us to win the league, but I hoped we would beat the top teams up from time to time. And we did that. Since the PL we (along with most other Championship teams) have existed in some sort of twilight zone. There’s no way we can sustain ourselves in the PL at HQ. We would have to go somewhere. But what would arrive at the other end? Would it still be QPR? I don’t think so. I think I will just enjoy the moment. Perhaps we get promoted. I hope we don’t do what we did last time.
I’m still proud to support the team. And I have all the memories. Thank you for enriching my life. | | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 11:31 - Dec 10 with 3784 views | wortonranger |
Can never fall out of love with the R’s. But the recent Beale saga has really hit home due to breaking the illusion being shattered that we were behind a club and management to be proud of when the lack of honesty in our leaders is so sadly lacking. The World Cup came at the right time. |  | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 12:10 - Dec 10 with 3708 views | HuckerMOTM |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 11:31 - Dec 10 by wortonranger |
Can never fall out of love with the R’s. But the recent Beale saga has really hit home due to breaking the illusion being shattered that we were behind a club and management to be proud of when the lack of honesty in our leaders is so sadly lacking. The World Cup came at the right time. |
I'm currently reading a fascinating - if occasionally too academic - book called 'West Ham United - The making of a football club' by Charles Korr which studies the history of WHU up until the mid 1980s but from the perspective of the club as an entity rather than on field events.
Reading it gives great insight as to how fans have deluded themselves for generations that clubs are 'their club' and although the relationship between club and fans has on some occasions been symbiotic, for the most part it's an emotional connection which generates falsehoods of ownership. | | | |
| On falling out of love with QPR (and pro football) on 12:59 - Dec 10 with 3609 views | jeffranger |
Will Always be an Rss supporter until I die & been going since 1958, born & bread from that area & nothing will stop me going until I can’t, there is far too much money in this sport now, the stupid wages they pay now is scandalous, that side of it I can’t stand & sky sort of ruined it | | | |
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