| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season 11:37 - Mar 9 with 1869 views | NorthantsHoop |
Sort of feel that this season has fallen into a trough of where we were with Steve McLaren in 2018/19 season, poor start good mid point and drastic fall away in late winter/early spring. I hope like McLaren's contract there is an option to review and part ways with Stephan at the end of the season. To be honest I never really felt we should have let Warburton & Eustace go in 2022, they could have built something, but no the politics always gets in the way. Another thing there must be more to these injuries especially Chair, Poku and the new Coventry signing that they are just always injured?
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 11:47 - Mar 9 with 1428 views | TheChef |
Over and over again. Like a broken record.
Changing the manager makes no difference - look at the people above him!!!! |  |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:21 - Mar 9 with 1335 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 11:47 - Mar 9 by TheChef |
Over and over again. Like a broken record.
Changing the manager makes no difference - look at the people above him!!!! |
That's not true though is it? We were the worst team in the division under Beale, Critchley and Ainsworth. And then Cifuentes walked in and over an immediate 6 months won the 9th most points in the division. Changing the manager definitely makes a difference.
Not defending those above him. I have even more frustration with them and in fact they're culpable for Stephan being here in the first place... But clearly there are match day issues with this coach. We're consistently performing worse than the sum of our parts. They're not running or tackling. There's space everywhere. We're dreadful. |  | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:26 - Mar 9 with 1305 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:21 - Mar 9 by Padulas_Shampoo |
That's not true though is it? We were the worst team in the division under Beale, Critchley and Ainsworth. And then Cifuentes walked in and over an immediate 6 months won the 9th most points in the division. Changing the manager definitely makes a difference.
Not defending those above him. I have even more frustration with them and in fact they're culpable for Stephan being here in the first place... But clearly there are match day issues with this coach. We're consistently performing worse than the sum of our parts. They're not running or tackling. There's space everywhere. We're dreadful. |
Change the manager, nothing changes.
We put another new coach in, then what? Same issue with injuries again next season, just like this and last. |  |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:46 - Mar 9 with 1230 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:26 - Mar 9 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Change the manager, nothing changes.
We put another new coach in, then what? Same issue with injuries again next season, just like this and last. |
I mean do you want me to write the same paragraph again about changing managers definitely does bring changes?
I can't stand Nourry for far more reasons than just the farcical injury / fitness issues we've had for multiple seasons... But that doesn't mean Stephan should get a free ride. As Jack Supple tweeted yesterday, we have conceded 4+ goals in 4 different league games under Julien Stephan - twice as many as under Marti Cifuentes (2) and one more than under Gareth Ainsworth (3). He's had a far more talented set of players to pick from even considering the injuries he's had to suffer. At least four times this season we've sent teams out that have completely folded and tossed it in. We've done it three times in the last four games and the last three games consecutively.
We're being coached far worse than we were last season. That's yet another nail in Nourry's coffin from my perspective but Stephan himself is proving to be a total disaster and deserves far more criticism than he's getting at the moment. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:49 - Mar 9 with 1206 views | daveB |
McClaren was sold as an expert with young players as well same as Stephan as he worked with Beckham, Ronaldo etc. First thing he did was ditch the kids and sign a load of older players. |  | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:59 - Mar 9 with 1155 views | bosh67 |
Yes there is a bit of a mirror to this season. It's funny because we did have a good base with Warburton & Eustace. The problem was that Warburton is super smart and after a while it becomes clear at most clubs he's at that he knows more about the business side than they do. It happened at Brentford and it seemed to happen here to some degree.
I remember the fanbase getting fed up that he always said the same when we lost and mostly if we drew or won. But he had a style of play and an attitude that most of the kids weren't good enough and that there needed to be more foundations around how those players came through. Essentially he was less interested in development and more interested in points on the board and position.
I guess the lessons learnt are be careful what you wish for and if you do have someone who knows more than you do about running a football club let them have their say and act on it.
Perhaps the shrewd move would be to try and get Mark back as Director Of Football and let him run and oversee things? He understands the accountancy and the theory of an actual style of play. It won't happen but it probably should. |  |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 13:22 - Mar 9 with 1068 views | NorthantsHoop |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:59 - Mar 9 by bosh67 |
Yes there is a bit of a mirror to this season. It's funny because we did have a good base with Warburton & Eustace. The problem was that Warburton is super smart and after a while it becomes clear at most clubs he's at that he knows more about the business side than they do. It happened at Brentford and it seemed to happen here to some degree.
I remember the fanbase getting fed up that he always said the same when we lost and mostly if we drew or won. But he had a style of play and an attitude that most of the kids weren't good enough and that there needed to be more foundations around how those players came through. Essentially he was less interested in development and more interested in points on the board and position.
I guess the lessons learnt are be careful what you wish for and if you do have someone who knows more than you do about running a football club let them have their say and act on it.
Perhaps the shrewd move would be to try and get Mark back as Director Of Football and let him run and oversee things? He understands the accountancy and the theory of an actual style of play. It won't happen but it probably should. |
I agree sort of felt that Warburton could have stepped up to Director of Football with Eustace as Head Coach, but no Warburton had to go for various reasons above his head and for what you describe about the youth development stuff and no doubt caught up with the politics of Hoos, Ferdinand and Ramsey and an ownership that seem blinded to appointing decent football people, although I so recognise that the owners are keeping us afloat with a cash input to meet our revenue shortfall. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 13:46 - Mar 9 with 965 views | Myke |
Broadly, this season mirrors McClarenâs, but also Cifuentes last season. The âmiddleâ bit seems to be when we are at our best. It takes us a while to get going and then we tail off again towards the end. The other similarity with McClaren is that our best players were flogged game after game until they picked up a serious injury, I still think, (fear) something major will happen to Kone. The problem is the later it happens, the more likely it will be to impact the beginning of next season too.
The difference with McClarenâs season and this, is that we were in real danger of getting relegated that season, such was our free-fall, whereas that is not a concern this year.
The only plus side to all our injuries is that fringe players like Morgan, Bennie and Kolli are getting important Championship experience, which should stand them in good stead in the long run.
One final point, without wishing to re-hash too much, but allowing Field to leave on loan was absolutely criminal. Even if he âwanted to goâ he is not the sort of pro to throw a strop if he didnât get his way. It was not even a case of âhindsight is wonderfulâ. Yes Madsen was still fit, but we already had a long injury list by the end of January | | | |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 13:56 - Mar 9 with 926 views | daveB |
Pretty much every season for the last 10 years has been the same, we have a good 3 months and a shit 6 months but varies where the good bit happens. Sometimes the good extends to 4 months but is still surrounded by dreadful runs which kill the season | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 14:27 - Mar 9 with 872 views | bosh67 |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 13:56 - Mar 9 by daveB |
Pretty much every season for the last 10 years has been the same, we have a good 3 months and a shit 6 months but varies where the good bit happens. Sometimes the good extends to 4 months but is still surrounded by dreadful runs which kill the season |
It does feel like we are trapped in a self constructed Groundhog day scenario every season. | |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 14:48 - Mar 9 with 822 views | KensalT |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:49 - Mar 9 by daveB |
McClaren was sold as an expert with young players as well same as Stephan as he worked with Beckham, Ronaldo etc. First thing he did was ditch the kids and sign a load of older players. |
We were also sold on the number of top young players Beale had worked with.
Maybe we should change the line to "good with young players from lavishly funded academies at big clubs".
Someone should programme into the algorithm the simple fact that big clubs have kids queueing up to get into their academies. If one doesn't make it they are immediately replaced with another hungry young talent desperate to prove that he has what it takes.
Youngsters at Championship level generally aren't going to be at the same level because if they were they would already have been hoovered up by a bigger club.
Beale couldn't do it for us. Joe Edwards fell flat on his face at the otherwise well run Millwall.
Coaches at Chelsea and Liverpool are working with the cream of the crop. They're not tasked with turning mediocre or slightly above average prospects into very good ones. They're already working with the best and just discard the ones who can't keep progressing! [Post edited 9 Mar 14:50]
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 14:50 - Mar 9 with 813 views | TheChef |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:21 - Mar 9 by Padulas_Shampoo |
That's not true though is it? We were the worst team in the division under Beale, Critchley and Ainsworth. And then Cifuentes walked in and over an immediate 6 months won the 9th most points in the division. Changing the manager definitely makes a difference.
Not defending those above him. I have even more frustration with them and in fact they're culpable for Stephan being here in the first place... But clearly there are match day issues with this coach. We're consistently performing worse than the sum of our parts. They're not running or tackling. There's space everywhere. We're dreadful. |
OK fine well let's spin the wheel again.
Although I see no point in doing it at this time in the season. Wait till after the last game. | |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 14:51 - Mar 9 with 800 views | themodfather |
we have had a few seasons where we sat pretty and then went into freefall, why? is it the players thinking 50pts is safe? the board saying we are safe? there is a mindset frailty at QPR imo.
we have lost 4 in 6 and conceding goals at an alarming rate. we look tired, slow, clueless and no backbone, leadership or gumption. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 14:56 - Mar 9 with 770 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 14:50 - Mar 9 by TheChef |
OK fine well let's spin the wheel again.
Although I see no point in doing it at this time in the season. Wait till after the last game. |
I'm not advocating sacking him now and I certainly don't think JUST replacing him will fix anything long-term. But I equally think it's important we don't just meander past the fact that he is Nourry's guy. We went through all that horrible snide Marti stuff 12 months ago to end up with THIS. Not only has Nourry put this medical / performance staff in place, he's also appointed a coach that manages to get the crap we've watched over the last three weeks out of the players that are available. Nourry is accountable for it all and right now Stephan looks like another tally in the 'absolute w@nk' column. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:03 - Mar 9 with 743 views | TheChef |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 14:56 - Mar 9 by Padulas_Shampoo |
I'm not advocating sacking him now and I certainly don't think JUST replacing him will fix anything long-term. But I equally think it's important we don't just meander past the fact that he is Nourry's guy. We went through all that horrible snide Marti stuff 12 months ago to end up with THIS. Not only has Nourry put this medical / performance staff in place, he's also appointed a coach that manages to get the crap we've watched over the last three weeks out of the players that are available. Nourry is accountable for it all and right now Stephan looks like another tally in the 'absolute w@nk' column. |
Fair enough - although I think Stephan is fine as manager and would be doing a lot better with his best players available, clearly he's had enough too. | |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:28 - Mar 9 with 660 views | highleverhoopL |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:21 - Mar 9 by Padulas_Shampoo |
That's not true though is it? We were the worst team in the division under Beale, Critchley and Ainsworth. And then Cifuentes walked in and over an immediate 6 months won the 9th most points in the division. Changing the manager definitely makes a difference.
Not defending those above him. I have even more frustration with them and in fact they're culpable for Stephan being here in the first place... But clearly there are match day issues with this coach. We're consistently performing worse than the sum of our parts. They're not running or tackling. There's space everywhere. We're dreadful. |
The Marti change was unusual because there was a fundamental clash between the style the players had been hired to play, and wanted to play, and Gazball. Just not being Gaz meant Marti got an immediate lift in player engagement and morale. Also he got a run of games with Cook and Clarke Salter fit, good loans etc.. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:38 - Mar 9 with 619 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:28 - Mar 9 by highleverhoopL |
The Marti change was unusual because there was a fundamental clash between the style the players had been hired to play, and wanted to play, and Gazball. Just not being Gaz meant Marti got an immediate lift in player engagement and morale. Also he got a run of games with Cook and Clarke Salter fit, good loans etc.. |
Well we've just lost our last three games 11-0 on aggregate. Two of those at home.
Over 5 games we've been edged out 15-4.
We've conceded more goals than everyone in the divison excepting Sheff Weds, who absolutely should be excepted.
I'm not saying he's THE problem but I'm starting to believe he's a part of it. It's not normal to defend as passively as they did for 90 minutes yesterday. It's not normal to lose league games in the Championship 7-1. And as stated earlier Ainsworth himself never conceded 4 goals as many times as Stephan has.
Everything is a mess. Including the current coach for me. [Post edited 9 Mar 15:39]
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:11 - Mar 9 with 558 views | Myke |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:38 - Mar 9 by Padulas_Shampoo |
Well we've just lost our last three games 11-0 on aggregate. Two of those at home.
Over 5 games we've been edged out 15-4.
We've conceded more goals than everyone in the divison excepting Sheff Weds, who absolutely should be excepted.
I'm not saying he's THE problem but I'm starting to believe he's a part of it. It's not normal to defend as passively as they did for 90 minutes yesterday. It's not normal to lose league games in the Championship 7-1. And as stated earlier Ainsworth himself never conceded 4 goals as many times as Stephan has.
Everything is a mess. Including the current coach for me. [Post edited 9 Mar 15:39]
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The stark difference for me is that in the immediate aftermath of the Coventry game, JS came out all guns blazing, saying we will âsee a different team and game next weekâ (not an exact quote but you get my gist). Not seeing that after Southampton or yesterday . Looks like he has been properly QPRâd, with all the fight knocked out of him. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:13 - Mar 9 with 554 views | Harbour |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 13:56 - Mar 9 by daveB |
Pretty much every season for the last 10 years has been the same, we have a good 3 months and a shit 6 months but varies where the good bit happens. Sometimes the good extends to 4 months but is still surrounded by dreadful runs which kill the season |
Thanks just sums up rangers so well..you get your hopes up when we have a good run beat some top teams you start to get excited and then we lose usually to a bottom three side followed by a 6 game losing streak. 10 years of that you start thinking what am I doing with my time and why am so invested. And then we beat Leeds 4-0 or beat Coventry or Jimmy scores that goal v Brum but these high seem to occur very infrequently. Oh for a consistent season when we have a real stab at top 6 or a cup runâŚ.rant over!!! | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:19 - Mar 9 with 534 views | Northernr |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:38 - Mar 9 by Padulas_Shampoo |
Well we've just lost our last three games 11-0 on aggregate. Two of those at home.
Over 5 games we've been edged out 15-4.
We've conceded more goals than everyone in the divison excepting Sheff Weds, who absolutely should be excepted.
I'm not saying he's THE problem but I'm starting to believe he's a part of it. It's not normal to defend as passively as they did for 90 minutes yesterday. It's not normal to lose league games in the Championship 7-1. And as stated earlier Ainsworth himself never conceded 4 goals as many times as Stephan has.
Everything is a mess. Including the current coach for me. [Post edited 9 Mar 15:39]
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Yeh, I think both things can be true can't they?
Managers matter, and we saw that when we had Ainsworth versus when we had Cifuentes. Stephan is not covering himself in glory at the moment. There's some mystifying calls being made and his pre- and post-match comments are concerning. Would Kim Hellberg be doing a better job here? Probably yes. Would Cifuentes have done better this season with this squad and these strikers? I think probably yes too. Am I bothered whether he stays or goes for next season, at the moment not really. But I don't blame him, think it's his fault, or think it will get much better if and when he goes. I don't envy any manager working in this set up.
McLaren followed Ian Holloway and Marc Bircham here and I said at the time you were sacking a manager there who was parring the course and doing what was asked of him - shifting out big earners and bringing the wage bill down while retaining Championship status and getting some games into Bright, Manning, Eze, Chair etc. I said at the time you might realise what a good job he was doing in a year's time, and it's exactly the same with Cifuentes who performed an absolute miracle keeping this team up last season with the players available to him.
A better manager will move the needle for you, but ultimately while Christian is running the club that's your main issue, and will also mean a new manager really wouldn't be a lot different in style, profile or approach to the one we've got now. It would be another head coach rather than a manager, almost certainly French or from the French market, and the absolute litany of performance staff, methodology leads, sports science guys etc who have presided over this absolute sht show will still be here.
The change that should be made, and should have been made last summer, is an experienced director of football like Steve Gallen working alongside an experienced CEO/COO like Jim Frayling, like Mark Devlin, like the guy at Stevenage who was here before and has done good things there and at Orient. Streamline the organisation, strip out the reams and reams and reams of nonsense and poncy Jake Humphries job titles, get an experienced brains trust who know what they're doing and build out from there with their manager choice. One of the constants over the last ten years is, whether it was Les or whether it's Christian, is you've got somebody in that role who's never done it before.
Sign players and build a team whose first and foremost aim is to play well and compete for QPR. If they end up going somewhere else for big money, fantastic, and of course we need that to happen regularly, but the primary aim should be putting a competitive team on the pitch for QPR each week of players who want to be here. As soon as you start describing yourself as a development club, a stepping stone, "don't want players for whom this is their final destination", then that's how everybody sees it. Like some poxy little club you have to do some time at before you get to go and play for somebody proper. That's why we get to this point every season and it looks like this - half the squad missing, the other half on the beach, not going up and not going down but not enough of them arsed about QPR enough to want to get the result anyway and so they get beat every week.
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:51 - Mar 9 with 398 views | StrawberryHillR |
We've shipped a horrible amount of goals but the goalkeeping situation has been absurd since day 1. Walsh is a competent stand-in but probably shouldn't be a number 1 in the Championship at this stage of his career.
The defence has been a mess... left back has been a disaster... Larkeche gone before the season started, RND a solid signing but dropping off like Nana after Xmas dinner, Esquardinha not at the races but made 15 appearances, started 7 (only one of which we won, at Bristol City). Sam Field when we're really in the sh1t.
Central defence - a mess... Dunne has been fine, the unwanted but turns out quite important Cook, the important but never available Clarke-Salter, the useful but needed Sam Field as a human sacrifice Edwards, Morrison who went backwards and has been returned to Scotland...
Right back? We don't really have one, although Dunne, Edwards and Mbengue have all given it a go.
How often have we put out the same keeper and back 4 in consecutive league games... we managed three games in September (Nardi, Mbengue, RND, Dunne, Morrison) and took 7 points; three in February (Walsh, Cook, RND, Dunne, Edwards) and took 4 points, ending with the horror show at home to Blackburn; then another two straight after (Walsh, Dunne, RND, Mbengue, Edwards) ending with the shellacking at Southampton.
And I think that's it. We've chopped and changed all season, often (but not always) forced to.
Point being, even moderately successful sides have a relatively settled and organised defence. Ours has been chaos all season.
And all of our wingers are injured. And Varane can only pass backwards or straight out of play.
Apart from all that we're doing OK. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:53 - Mar 9 with 389 views | GaryBannister86 |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:19 - Mar 9 by Northernr |
Yeh, I think both things can be true can't they?
Managers matter, and we saw that when we had Ainsworth versus when we had Cifuentes. Stephan is not covering himself in glory at the moment. There's some mystifying calls being made and his pre- and post-match comments are concerning. Would Kim Hellberg be doing a better job here? Probably yes. Would Cifuentes have done better this season with this squad and these strikers? I think probably yes too. Am I bothered whether he stays or goes for next season, at the moment not really. But I don't blame him, think it's his fault, or think it will get much better if and when he goes. I don't envy any manager working in this set up.
McLaren followed Ian Holloway and Marc Bircham here and I said at the time you were sacking a manager there who was parring the course and doing what was asked of him - shifting out big earners and bringing the wage bill down while retaining Championship status and getting some games into Bright, Manning, Eze, Chair etc. I said at the time you might realise what a good job he was doing in a year's time, and it's exactly the same with Cifuentes who performed an absolute miracle keeping this team up last season with the players available to him.
A better manager will move the needle for you, but ultimately while Christian is running the club that's your main issue, and will also mean a new manager really wouldn't be a lot different in style, profile or approach to the one we've got now. It would be another head coach rather than a manager, almost certainly French or from the French market, and the absolute litany of performance staff, methodology leads, sports science guys etc who have presided over this absolute sht show will still be here.
The change that should be made, and should have been made last summer, is an experienced director of football like Steve Gallen working alongside an experienced CEO/COO like Jim Frayling, like Mark Devlin, like the guy at Stevenage who was here before and has done good things there and at Orient. Streamline the organisation, strip out the reams and reams and reams of nonsense and poncy Jake Humphries job titles, get an experienced brains trust who know what they're doing and build out from there with their manager choice. One of the constants over the last ten years is, whether it was Les or whether it's Christian, is you've got somebody in that role who's never done it before.
Sign players and build a team whose first and foremost aim is to play well and compete for QPR. If they end up going somewhere else for big money, fantastic, and of course we need that to happen regularly, but the primary aim should be putting a competitive team on the pitch for QPR each week of players who want to be here. As soon as you start describing yourself as a development club, a stepping stone, "don't want players for whom this is their final destination", then that's how everybody sees it. Like some poxy little club you have to do some time at before you get to go and play for somebody proper. That's why we get to this point every season and it looks like this - half the squad missing, the other half on the beach, not going up and not going down but not enough of them arsed about QPR enough to want to get the result anyway and so they get beat every week.
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Yes. This. Exactly. |  | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:55 - Mar 9 with 372 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:19 - Mar 9 by Northernr |
Yeh, I think both things can be true can't they?
Managers matter, and we saw that when we had Ainsworth versus when we had Cifuentes. Stephan is not covering himself in glory at the moment. There's some mystifying calls being made and his pre- and post-match comments are concerning. Would Kim Hellberg be doing a better job here? Probably yes. Would Cifuentes have done better this season with this squad and these strikers? I think probably yes too. Am I bothered whether he stays or goes for next season, at the moment not really. But I don't blame him, think it's his fault, or think it will get much better if and when he goes. I don't envy any manager working in this set up.
McLaren followed Ian Holloway and Marc Bircham here and I said at the time you were sacking a manager there who was parring the course and doing what was asked of him - shifting out big earners and bringing the wage bill down while retaining Championship status and getting some games into Bright, Manning, Eze, Chair etc. I said at the time you might realise what a good job he was doing in a year's time, and it's exactly the same with Cifuentes who performed an absolute miracle keeping this team up last season with the players available to him.
A better manager will move the needle for you, but ultimately while Christian is running the club that's your main issue, and will also mean a new manager really wouldn't be a lot different in style, profile or approach to the one we've got now. It would be another head coach rather than a manager, almost certainly French or from the French market, and the absolute litany of performance staff, methodology leads, sports science guys etc who have presided over this absolute sht show will still be here.
The change that should be made, and should have been made last summer, is an experienced director of football like Steve Gallen working alongside an experienced CEO/COO like Jim Frayling, like Mark Devlin, like the guy at Stevenage who was here before and has done good things there and at Orient. Streamline the organisation, strip out the reams and reams and reams of nonsense and poncy Jake Humphries job titles, get an experienced brains trust who know what they're doing and build out from there with their manager choice. One of the constants over the last ten years is, whether it was Les or whether it's Christian, is you've got somebody in that role who's never done it before.
Sign players and build a team whose first and foremost aim is to play well and compete for QPR. If they end up going somewhere else for big money, fantastic, and of course we need that to happen regularly, but the primary aim should be putting a competitive team on the pitch for QPR each week of players who want to be here. As soon as you start describing yourself as a development club, a stepping stone, "don't want players for whom this is their final destination", then that's how everybody sees it. Like some poxy little club you have to do some time at before you get to go and play for somebody proper. That's why we get to this point every season and it looks like this - half the squad missing, the other half on the beach, not going up and not going down but not enough of them arsed about QPR enough to want to get the result anyway and so they get beat every week.
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Yes they definitely can both be true - For me, they definitely ARE true.
I just want it called out that we went through what we went through with Marti so that CN could situ his own man. Well here he is and this is where it's got us. I just want it marked that we've arguably / probably gone backwards with coaching this season after that ego trip and character smirching propaganda that Nourry conducted 12 months ago. It's yet another bad smell emanating from HQ. Nobody wins. Super. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:57 - Mar 9 with 366 views | Northernr |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:51 - Mar 9 by StrawberryHillR |
We've shipped a horrible amount of goals but the goalkeeping situation has been absurd since day 1. Walsh is a competent stand-in but probably shouldn't be a number 1 in the Championship at this stage of his career.
The defence has been a mess... left back has been a disaster... Larkeche gone before the season started, RND a solid signing but dropping off like Nana after Xmas dinner, Esquardinha not at the races but made 15 appearances, started 7 (only one of which we won, at Bristol City). Sam Field when we're really in the sh1t.
Central defence - a mess... Dunne has been fine, the unwanted but turns out quite important Cook, the important but never available Clarke-Salter, the useful but needed Sam Field as a human sacrifice Edwards, Morrison who went backwards and has been returned to Scotland...
Right back? We don't really have one, although Dunne, Edwards and Mbengue have all given it a go.
How often have we put out the same keeper and back 4 in consecutive league games... we managed three games in September (Nardi, Mbengue, RND, Dunne, Morrison) and took 7 points; three in February (Walsh, Cook, RND, Dunne, Edwards) and took 4 points, ending with the horror show at home to Blackburn; then another two straight after (Walsh, Dunne, RND, Mbengue, Edwards) ending with the shellacking at Southampton.
And I think that's it. We've chopped and changed all season, often (but not always) forced to.
Point being, even moderately successful sides have a relatively settled and organised defence. Ours has been chaos all season.
And all of our wingers are injured. And Varane can only pass backwards or straight out of play.
Apart from all that we're doing OK. |
On the left back thing, the idea of Larkeche being your starting 40 game left back at this level covered by Esquerdinha was already mental before he got injured. It's not been good, but it's been a lot better than it would have been if they'd tried that. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:59 - Mar 9 with 354 views | terryb |
TK1 posted this list on a different thread.
Physical performance coach
Performance scientist
Head of Analysis
Operation Analyst
Performance Therapist
Recruitment Analyst
Head of Recruitment
Director of Sporting Operations
Performance Physiotherapist x 2
Analyst
Head of Goalkeeping
Performance Therapist
Head of Methodology
Nutritionist
Performance logistics & Player Care Lead
Individual Development Coach
Head of Performance Services (ooh la la!)
Head of Integrated Services
Head of Defensive Coaching
Head Coach
First Team Coach
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Methodology Lead U17- U21
Academy Methodology Manager
Player Pathways Manager
I struggle to understand how any Championship club (especially one not receiving monies from the Premier League) can employ this amount of non playing staff. And 20 positions are listed above Head Coach! I do understand that might not reflect where the postion sits in the club hierarchy, but it feels that way at the moment! Every few years a club is relegated that was comfortably clear of problems & then stopped playing/trying. That shouldn't apply to us this year, but it's not easy to envisage where another win (or even a couple of draws) will come from.
Yesterday I made the decision to stay at home & watch on Sky rather than face bus replacement on Greater Anglia. A decision I never expected myself to make, but I'm pleased that I did! I think that shows my apathetic attitude to what is happening at Rangers currently & my lack of faith in our off the pitch management. Not that onfield management is inspiting me either!
I'm intrigued as to what the attitude of fans is at Birmingham & Leicester if we serve up the same as the last three matches. I suspect it wouldn't be accepted as readily as earlier this season. | | | |
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