| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season 11:37 - Mar 9 with 8213 views | NorthantsHoop |
Sort of feel that this season has fallen into a trough of where we were with Steve McLaren in 2018/19 season, poor start good mid point and drastic fall away in late winter/early spring. I hope like McLaren's contract there is an option to review and part ways with Stephan at the end of the season. To be honest I never really felt we should have let Warburton & Eustace go in 2022, they could have built something, but no the politics always gets in the way. Another thing there must be more to these injuries especially Chair, Poku and the new Coventry signing that they are just always injured?
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 17:04 - Mar 9 with 2447 views | StrawberryHillR |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:57 - Mar 9 by Northernr |
On the left back thing, the idea of Larkeche being your starting 40 game left back at this level covered by Esquerdinha was already mental before he got injured. It's not been good, but it's been a lot better than it would have been if they'd tried that. |
Oh yeah, obvs, disaster waiting to happen, but it ended up being a different kind of disaster! |  | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 17:20 - Mar 9 with 2381 views | nick_hammersmith |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:57 - Mar 9 by Northernr |
On the left back thing, the idea of Larkeche being your starting 40 game left back at this level covered by Esquerdinha was already mental before he got injured. It's not been good, but it's been a lot better than it would have been if they'd tried that. |
We've seen a few threads where RND is described as a steady Eddy 7/10 left back (when he plays)
I disagree.
I think 7/10 is his high ceiling not his median.
I assume he's on ex PL wages and would be at the top of our pay scale. The Championship has got better to offer, for a lot less.
-- More than half the teams we've played have had a better left back, and I guarantee most of them were cheaper |  | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 17:27 - Mar 9 with 2318 views | nick_hammersmith |
I just found a behind the scenes photo from CN's job interview
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 17:47 - Mar 9 with 2245 views | daveB |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:59 - Mar 9 by terryb |
TK1 posted this list on a different thread.
Physical performance coach
Performance scientist
Head of Analysis
Operation Analyst
Performance Therapist
Recruitment Analyst
Head of Recruitment
Director of Sporting Operations
Performance Physiotherapist x 2
Analyst
Head of Goalkeeping
Performance Therapist
Head of Methodology
Nutritionist
Performance logistics & Player Care Lead
Individual Development Coach
Head of Performance Services (ooh la la!)
Head of Integrated Services
Head of Defensive Coaching
Head Coach
First Team Coach
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Methodology Lead U17- U21
Academy Methodology Manager
Player Pathways Manager
I struggle to understand how any Championship club (especially one not receiving monies from the Premier League) can employ this amount of non playing staff. And 20 positions are listed above Head Coach! I do understand that might not reflect where the postion sits in the club hierarchy, but it feels that way at the moment! Every few years a club is relegated that was comfortably clear of problems & then stopped playing/trying. That shouldn't apply to us this year, but it's not easy to envisage where another win (or even a couple of draws) will come from.
Yesterday I made the decision to stay at home & watch on Sky rather than face bus replacement on Greater Anglia. A decision I never expected myself to make, but I'm pleased that I did! I think that shows my apathetic attitude to what is happening at Rangers currently & my lack of faith in our off the pitch management. Not that onfield management is inspiting me either!
I'm intrigued as to what the attitude of fans is at Birmingham & Leicester if we serve up the same as the last three matches. I suspect it wouldn't be accepted as readily as earlier this season. |
Performance Therapist ha ha ha
I could do with a Therapist after watching recent performances |  | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 11:51 - Mar 10 with 1970 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:59 - Mar 9 by terryb |
TK1 posted this list on a different thread.
Physical performance coach
Performance scientist
Head of Analysis
Operation Analyst
Performance Therapist
Recruitment Analyst
Head of Recruitment
Director of Sporting Operations
Performance Physiotherapist x 2
Analyst
Head of Goalkeeping
Performance Therapist
Head of Methodology
Nutritionist
Performance logistics & Player Care Lead
Individual Development Coach
Head of Performance Services (ooh la la!)
Head of Integrated Services
Head of Defensive Coaching
Head Coach
First Team Coach
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Methodology Lead U17- U21
Academy Methodology Manager
Player Pathways Manager
I struggle to understand how any Championship club (especially one not receiving monies from the Premier League) can employ this amount of non playing staff. And 20 positions are listed above Head Coach! I do understand that might not reflect where the postion sits in the club hierarchy, but it feels that way at the moment! Every few years a club is relegated that was comfortably clear of problems & then stopped playing/trying. That shouldn't apply to us this year, but it's not easy to envisage where another win (or even a couple of draws) will come from.
Yesterday I made the decision to stay at home & watch on Sky rather than face bus replacement on Greater Anglia. A decision I never expected myself to make, but I'm pleased that I did! I think that shows my apathetic attitude to what is happening at Rangers currently & my lack of faith in our off the pitch management. Not that onfield management is inspiting me either!
I'm intrigued as to what the attitude of fans is at Birmingham & Leicester if we serve up the same as the last three matches. I suspect it wouldn't be accepted as readily as earlier this season. |
That looks like film credits that run on for ages and leaves you wondering: do they really need all these people?
Next year we'll see a few more added to that list: Best Boy, Key Grip, and a position filled by Consuela Delos Santos from Manila, as our Executive Relief Officer.
I'd like to know what the likes of the performance scientist, performance therapist and head of integrated services (whatever the fook that is) make of it all? |  |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 12:46 - Mar 10 with 1925 views | BAWHoops |
Like the McLaren season there are some 'winnable' home games coming up
Pompey, Watford and Bristol City.
If JS doesn't win a couple of those I suspect Nourry will pull the trigger |  |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 13:13 - Mar 10 with 1892 views | TK1 |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 16:19 - Mar 9 by Northernr |
Yeh, I think both things can be true can't they?
Managers matter, and we saw that when we had Ainsworth versus when we had Cifuentes. Stephan is not covering himself in glory at the moment. There's some mystifying calls being made and his pre- and post-match comments are concerning. Would Kim Hellberg be doing a better job here? Probably yes. Would Cifuentes have done better this season with this squad and these strikers? I think probably yes too. Am I bothered whether he stays or goes for next season, at the moment not really. But I don't blame him, think it's his fault, or think it will get much better if and when he goes. I don't envy any manager working in this set up.
McLaren followed Ian Holloway and Marc Bircham here and I said at the time you were sacking a manager there who was parring the course and doing what was asked of him - shifting out big earners and bringing the wage bill down while retaining Championship status and getting some games into Bright, Manning, Eze, Chair etc. I said at the time you might realise what a good job he was doing in a year's time, and it's exactly the same with Cifuentes who performed an absolute miracle keeping this team up last season with the players available to him.
A better manager will move the needle for you, but ultimately while Christian is running the club that's your main issue, and will also mean a new manager really wouldn't be a lot different in style, profile or approach to the one we've got now. It would be another head coach rather than a manager, almost certainly French or from the French market, and the absolute litany of performance staff, methodology leads, sports science guys etc who have presided over this absolute sht show will still be here.
The change that should be made, and should have been made last summer, is an experienced director of football like Steve Gallen working alongside an experienced CEO/COO like Jim Frayling, like Mark Devlin, like the guy at Stevenage who was here before and has done good things there and at Orient. Streamline the organisation, strip out the reams and reams and reams of nonsense and poncy Jake Humphries job titles, get an experienced brains trust who know what they're doing and build out from there with their manager choice. One of the constants over the last ten years is, whether it was Les or whether it's Christian, is you've got somebody in that role who's never done it before.
Sign players and build a team whose first and foremost aim is to play well and compete for QPR. If they end up going somewhere else for big money, fantastic, and of course we need that to happen regularly, but the primary aim should be putting a competitive team on the pitch for QPR each week of players who want to be here. As soon as you start describing yourself as a development club, a stepping stone, "don't want players for whom this is their final destination", then that's how everybody sees it. Like some poxy little club you have to do some time at before you get to go and play for somebody proper. That's why we get to this point every season and it looks like this - half the squad missing, the other half on the beach, not going up and not going down but not enough of them arsed about QPR enough to want to get the result anyway and so they get beat every week.
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I'd copy and paste this and send it to the board, Ruben, sign it on behalf of LFW. I can't see a word of it that can be contradicted, a suggestion that would not improve QPR 26/27. And 26/27 needs radical improvement because a traumatic season feels in the post right now. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 20:29 - Mar 10 with 1718 views | The_Beast1976 |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 13:13 - Mar 10 by TK1 |
I'd copy and paste this and send it to the board, Ruben, sign it on behalf of LFW. I can't see a word of it that can be contradicted, a suggestion that would not improve QPR 26/27. And 26/27 needs radical improvement because a traumatic season feels in the post right now. |
I agree with you. They should read it. It's bang on.
If I was the owner I'd have demanded Hoos, Nourry, Williams and Stephan meet me at 8am on Monday morning at the training ground so I could give them an absolute mauling over what's happened on their watch and, if I wasn't satisfied with their responses (and, I'd say it's quite likely that I wouldn't be because they've created one hell of a mess) I'd have sacked them there and then.
What a mess (yet again).
Hoos, Nourry and Williams should be kicked out of the club. Useless ca nts | | | |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 20:43 - Mar 10 with 1684 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 20:29 - Mar 10 by The_Beast1976 |
I agree with you. They should read it. It's bang on.
If I was the owner I'd have demanded Hoos, Nourry, Williams and Stephan meet me at 8am on Monday morning at the training ground so I could give them an absolute mauling over what's happened on their watch and, if I wasn't satisfied with their responses (and, I'd say it's quite likely that I wouldn't be because they've created one hell of a mess) I'd have sacked them there and then.
What a mess (yet again).
Hoos, Nourry and Williams should be kicked out of the club. Useless ca nts |
The owner won't do that. I'm sure he said he could never sell QPR as his kids are fans.
That's what this club is; a hobby. Something to keep the kids happy while they're young.
There is no desire from the top to win and that trickles down, it infects the staff, players and I'd even say the fan base.
Does the owner, staff and fans really believe that winning is everything?
Probably not, so you get mediocrity, if lucky. | |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 01:47 - Mar 11 with 1584 views | Match82 |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 17:20 - Mar 9 by nick_hammersmith |
We've seen a few threads where RND is described as a steady Eddy 7/10 left back (when he plays)
I disagree.
I think 7/10 is his high ceiling not his median.
I assume he's on ex PL wages and would be at the top of our pay scale. The Championship has got better to offer, for a lot less.
-- More than half the teams we've played have had a better left back, and I guarantee most of them were cheaper |
Ironically I think that's Stephan.
7/10. Decent. Not the problem, but not good enough to overcome the problem. Spin the wheel again, maybe we'll get an 8 maybe we'll get a 5. Unless we get a 9 or a 10 though we'll be having the same conversation next year |  | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 05:22 - Mar 11 with 1540 views | QPROslo |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 13:46 - Mar 9 by Myke |
Broadly, this season mirrors McClaren’s, but also Cifuentes last season. The ‘middle’ bit seems to be when we are at our best. It takes us a while to get going and then we tail off again towards the end. The other similarity with McClaren is that our best players were flogged game after game until they picked up a serious injury, I still think, (fear) something major will happen to Kone. The problem is the later it happens, the more likely it will be to impact the beginning of next season too.
The difference with McClaren’s season and this, is that we were in real danger of getting relegated that season, such was our free-fall, whereas that is not a concern this year.
The only plus side to all our injuries is that fringe players like Morgan, Bennie and Kolli are getting important Championship experience, which should stand them in good stead in the long run.
One final point, without wishing to re-hash too much, but allowing Field to leave on loan was absolutely criminal. Even if he ‘wanted to go’ he is not the sort of pro to throw a strop if he didn’t get his way. It was not even a case of ‘hindsight is wonderful’. Yes Madsen was still fit, but we already had a long injury list by the end of January |
Relegation looks an absolute concern for me now. We are in free fall again. With the injuries we have now, kids already thrown in who are far from ready, and mostly kids on the Bench who are probably further off, we have a huge struggle on our hands. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 14:39 - Mar 11 with 1375 views | R_from_afar |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 17:47 - Mar 9 by daveB |
Performance Therapist ha ha ha
I could do with a Therapist after watching recent performances |
After the recent heavy defeats, I'm surprised the club hasn't brought in a Head of PTSD Management... |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:00 - Mar 11 with 1359 views | GaryBannister86 |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 05:22 - Mar 11 by QPROslo |
Relegation looks an absolute concern for me now. We are in free fall again. With the injuries we have now, kids already thrown in who are far from ready, and mostly kids on the Bench who are probably further off, we have a huge struggle on our hands. |
66/1 available if you are worried. I think that's about the right price with the 47 points in the bag, we should stumble across a home win somewhere then should be OK. |  | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:04 - Mar 11 with 1349 views | TheChef |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:00 - Mar 11 by GaryBannister86 |
66/1 available if you are worried. I think that's about the right price with the 47 points in the bag, we should stumble across a home win somewhere then should be OK. |
If we can't win at least one of our five remaining home games, then yeah, we probably would deserve to be relegated... |  |
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| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:59 - Mar 11 with 1298 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Arguably the biggest black mark against this squad is the fact that their best performance of the season by a country mile came in that first half against Leicester. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 19:15 - Mar 11 with 1214 views | QPROslo |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 15:00 - Mar 11 by GaryBannister86 |
66/1 available if you are worried. I think that's about the right price with the 47 points in the bag, we should stumble across a home win somewhere then should be OK. |
No I wouldn't bet on us for relegation for many reasons, no 1 I don't bet. Also expect us to survive but a close call. Feel Oxford and West Brom will go. | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 22:06 - Mar 11 with 1143 views | baz_qpr |
Ultimately the problem (and yes I know there is one or two exceptions every year) is that the playing field is so unlevel. Our last four games Southampton, Sheff Utd, Middlesbrough, Birmingham, teams with either vastly bigger budgets 3 of the 4 current form teams in the division. Why do we collapse or start awfully most seasons, because we either have a good team that starts and injuries and lack of depth knock us over or we have a crap start because we have no decent players have bought last minute because we can't compete for players and then make some decent loan signings in January to help us stay up.
The reality is the two successes we have had in this league have been
a) when we had a combo of a once in a generation player who could win games on his own with a wiley manager who put a decent team and structure around him
b) when we had the biggest playing budget in the league and got promoted despite the manager
For everything else we are just a Preston. and we need an extraordinary series of events, luck, exceptional management to even get close to top 6 |  | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 09:24 - Mar 12 with 1003 views | Rangersw12 |
This reminds me a bit of that Gary Waddock season where we just couldn't buy a win which then carried on into the following season 😬 | | | |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 09:30 - Mar 12 with 998 views | CamberleyR |
| This Season Almost A Replica of The McLaren Season on 09:24 - Mar 12 by Rangersw12 |
This reminds me a bit of that Gary Waddock season where we just couldn't buy a win which then carried on into the following season 😬 |
Just checked and that's pretty close.
He won two of his first three matches (won home to Millwall, won away to Sheff Utd, lost to Palace) then it was four draws, three defeats, a draw and three defeats to end the season. |  |
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