| Gaffer on tonight's defeat 23:25 - Nov 8 with 6511 views | bosh67 |
https://www.qpr.co.uk/videos/interviews/beale-post-huddersfield-081122/
He's f*cking fuming. I can see everyone getting a real rocket over the next few days. We can't accuse him of covering up. If you drum in time after time how to defend and then you don't then you're entitled to look at the mentality of your team. In a strange way, although this feels like Groundhog Day from last season we do have this break coming up. I think Mick will use most of it to discover how to instil some kind of mentality monster in this squad and I think he will work behind the scenes to find a dedicated second striker.
I said to someone tonight we wouldn't have relied on Zamora up front on his own and Dykes works his socks off but he is very similar to Zamora in many ways. I can see us pushing to get Archer in or someone who has some record of scoring as a striker in early January, admittedly without any money to spend. We all want Armstrong to be a huge player for us and he probably will be but he hasn't actually scored a goal yet so I feel we are over pressurising the kid.
Incredibly annoying tonight but I for one was pleased to see Mick actually obviously containing absolute rage. The reality of the lack of mentality issue is clearly not lost on him and he very much refers to it here. |  |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 23:36 - Nov 8 with 4240 views | HAYESBOY |
Just watched it and he is boiling underneath. |  |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 23:46 - Nov 8 with 4193 views | Damo1962 |
Glad to see he has realised what a lot of us have said about recent QPR squads. Doing something about it may be more difficult. It is in the open now, so the players need to either take it on board or find themselves sidelined. I don't think he will put up with his hard work on the training pitch being undermined on it. |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 00:14 - Nov 9 with 4094 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Yeah I can't see him tolerating mediocrity. I reckon he'll get a couple of strikers in on loan come January.
Interesting that barely any of our 'conveyor belt of youth prospects' are anywhere near the team, yet that's allegedly why the board/DoF lost patience with Warburton.
The likes of Bonne and Thomas are off to League 1 come January too. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 07:20 - Nov 9 with 3909 views | ParkRoyalR |
That one is on Beale imo and I think he recognised that at Half Time by hooking Balogun for Dunne.
Dunne was on the floor and just devastated at Full Time, do Balogun and Clarke Salter care that much?
If Clarke Salter walks back into the team whenever available, despite Beale saying players have to earn the right to play, he needs to show his much vaunted technical ability.
Clarke Salters lack of courage was evident throughout the 2nd Half by refusing to step up and carry the ball into the space in front of him but instead pass to Dunne and expect him to do it, even tho he's for some the least technical of our 4 Centre Halves,
Dunne took risks for the team last night when in possession whereas Clarke Salter played it safe and hid,
Beale has to learn the Championship is not u23 academy type football and you need players who care and put the team above themselves,
And harsh as it is to say after again showing real courage, never hiding and working his socks off for the team, but teach Chair what Viera has taught Zaha, the ball and attack moves quicker if you pass the ball and don't take 5 touches everytime you receive it. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 07:37 - Nov 9 with 3854 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 07:20 - Nov 9 by ParkRoyalR |
That one is on Beale imo and I think he recognised that at Half Time by hooking Balogun for Dunne.
Dunne was on the floor and just devastated at Full Time, do Balogun and Clarke Salter care that much?
If Clarke Salter walks back into the team whenever available, despite Beale saying players have to earn the right to play, he needs to show his much vaunted technical ability.
Clarke Salters lack of courage was evident throughout the 2nd Half by refusing to step up and carry the ball into the space in front of him but instead pass to Dunne and expect him to do it, even tho he's for some the least technical of our 4 Centre Halves,
Dunne took risks for the team last night when in possession whereas Clarke Salter played it safe and hid,
Beale has to learn the Championship is not u23 academy type football and you need players who care and put the team above themselves,
And harsh as it is to say after again showing real courage, never hiding and working his socks off for the team, but teach Chair what Viera has taught Zaha, the ball and attack moves quicker if you pass the ball and don't take 5 touches everytime you receive it. |
Pretty much agree with all of that. I'm similarly unconvinced by Clarke- Salter, who for me looks slipshod and fragile/flaky at times. Chair needs coaching, if not a reset on the sidelines. But the whole team's technical limitations were alarmingly on display last night - we were just inept.
Sure, we conceded off a couple of free kicks, but I think Beale is using that to disguise what was far more significant for the reamining 88 minutes: our inability to fashion chances and work their keeper. In that regard, if he really thought Albert was 'excellent', he's fooling himself. [Post edited 9 Nov 2022 7:47]
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 07:58 - Nov 9 with 3833 views | Westy75 |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 07:20 - Nov 9 by ParkRoyalR |
That one is on Beale imo and I think he recognised that at Half Time by hooking Balogun for Dunne.
Dunne was on the floor and just devastated at Full Time, do Balogun and Clarke Salter care that much?
If Clarke Salter walks back into the team whenever available, despite Beale saying players have to earn the right to play, he needs to show his much vaunted technical ability.
Clarke Salters lack of courage was evident throughout the 2nd Half by refusing to step up and carry the ball into the space in front of him but instead pass to Dunne and expect him to do it, even tho he's for some the least technical of our 4 Centre Halves,
Dunne took risks for the team last night when in possession whereas Clarke Salter played it safe and hid,
Beale has to learn the Championship is not u23 academy type football and you need players who care and put the team above themselves,
And harsh as it is to say after again showing real courage, never hiding and working his socks off for the team, but teach Chair what Viera has taught Zaha, the ball and attack moves quicker if you pass the ball and don't take 5 touches everytime you receive it. |
Indeed, looking at how Huddersfield defended last night would be a good place to start. Won pretty much everything second half and looked impenetrable. Put everything on the line. |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 08:05 - Nov 9 with 3798 views | distortR |
I think the players probably detest Beale. So they got together, and said "how do we get rid of him"."I know, we play really well, and another team snaps him up". And that didn't work, so they've gone to plan B, the old favourite.................... | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 08:40 - Nov 9 with 3727 views | PinnerPaul |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 07:37 - Nov 9 by stainrods_elbow |
Pretty much agree with all of that. I'm similarly unconvinced by Clarke- Salter, who for me looks slipshod and fragile/flaky at times. Chair needs coaching, if not a reset on the sidelines. But the whole team's technical limitations were alarmingly on display last night - we were just inept.
Sure, we conceded off a couple of free kicks, but I think Beale is using that to disguise what was far more significant for the reamining 88 minutes: our inability to fashion chances and work their keeper. In that regard, if he really thought Albert was 'excellent', he's fooling himself. [Post edited 9 Nov 2022 7:47]
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Inability to work the keeper?
Come on - he was MOTM! | | | |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 08:40 - Nov 9 with 3723 views | PinnerPaul |
Glad to see he was angry and swatted away Nick's first question! | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 08:50 - Nov 9 with 3665 views | bosh67 |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 07:58 - Nov 9 by Westy75 |
Indeed, looking at how Huddersfield defended last night would be a good place to start. Won pretty much everything second half and looked impenetrable. Put everything on the line. |
I think this was Mick's point last night. We aren't putting everything on the line and he can see how much of a difference that has made. | |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 09:01 - Nov 9 with 3623 views | BklynRanger |
He's right in what he says of course and it's a wake up call for all of them, including him.
They did a load of commendable running and trying to get back into it in the second half, but they'd already done too much switching off, too much passive, timid play and not enough movement and purpose in that first half to get it back. Not when we're having trouble scoring anyway.
It's been well publicised how much players enjoy training with Beale - it's only a thought but maybe they need to enjoy it a bit less? Start games with more hunger and determination rather than thinking they're just training on the big pitch. |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 09:04 - Nov 9 with 3600 views | Phildo |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 09:21 - Nov 9 with 3538 views | WokingR |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 08:50 - Nov 9 by bosh67 |
I think this was Mick's point last night. We aren't putting everything on the line and he can see how much of a difference that has made. |
I get the bit about putting everything on the line but with 3 games a week you can't keep doing that and there was an awful lot more that was down to him and how he set the team up last night.
In the first 15-20 minutes the combination of Paal, Willock and Chair down the left looked like it was capable of tearing Huddersfield apart all night. Unfortunately, Willock barely had 20 minutes in him last night and just faded out of the game so why he was left to labour away, achieving nothing other than a bit of match fitness needs to be looked at.
On the other side, Laird didn't look like he had a clue how to play with Adomah already ahead of him in the space he would usually attack. There was no interchange or overlapping at all. I get that while we are playing 3 games every week, there isn't the time to practice these new pairings on the training ground so why expect it to magically happen in a match? Unless there was an injury, taking Laird off and leaving Adomah to labour away was another big mistake. He hasn't played much recently and, although he was willing to chase everything, he was not sharp or up to speed at all. Another one who should be getting minutes in on the training ground or reserve matches and not where 3 points are at stake |  | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 09:48 - Nov 9 with 3470 views | Toast_R |
Basically..... we let in two dog sh*t goals and Huddersfield parked the bus. That type of match doesn't seem to suit this QPR team who get far more joy counter attacking and working the ball wide quickly. Possibly a reason why our home form isn't that great this season.
We threw cross after cross in but don't have anyone in up there who dominates the box. Dare I say it, we were crying out for a Matt Smith type player last night. Pretty sure Charlie Austin would have found the space...
Ugly and frustrating [Post edited 9 Nov 2022 9:58]
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 09:58 - Nov 9 with 3422 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 09:48 - Nov 9 by Toast_R |
Basically..... we let in two dog sh*t goals and Huddersfield parked the bus. That type of match doesn't seem to suit this QPR team who get far more joy counter attacking and working the ball wide quickly. Possibly a reason why our home form isn't that great this season.
We threw cross after cross in but don't have anyone in up there who dominates the box. Dare I say it, we were crying out for a Matt Smith type player last night. Pretty sure Charlie Austin would have found the space...
Ugly and frustrating [Post edited 9 Nov 2022 9:58]
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Crosses wise, on the very few occasions we did get to the bye-line we took so long in getting there, they had time to reset and the ball was sat up with no real power on it,
No surprise we scored when we got to the bye-line quickly and crossed first time before they could re-group and get tight to Dykes,
Too many late slow crosses late night and poor set pieces did not help our cause. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:06 - Nov 9 with 3396 views | Toast_R |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 09:58 - Nov 9 by ParkRoyalR |
Crosses wise, on the very few occasions we did get to the bye-line we took so long in getting there, they had time to reset and the ball was sat up with no real power on it,
No surprise we scored when we got to the bye-line quickly and crossed first time before they could re-group and get tight to Dykes,
Too many late slow crosses late night and poor set pieces did not help our cause. |
Crosses were fine most of the time, there was just no one attacking the ball or cute enough to lose their marker to find the spaces. Austin was a master of that, arriving in the spaces at the right time. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:06 - Nov 9 with 3393 views | Rangers67 |
I agree with MB that Albert played really well, apart from a couple of poor crosses he was excellent and as for Chair needing coaching, do me a favour . He was the one bright spark out there last night trying to make things happen. He is not perfect but if a couple of the other players put in a shift like he and Albert did then we would not have lost that game. This type of result was always going to happen , it is what we at QPR do. When Chair had the ball last night he was looking for options and if he had one he used it but more often than not he was presented with players playing statues and not moving into space or making runs. As for the ref, well what can you say , there must be a written script in the dressing room issued by the FA which they must adhere to. Otherwise how else do you explain the same scenario being played out game after game, it cannot be co-incedence that even after they equalised at about 10 mins the time wasting started and he didn,t book the keeper until added time in the second half, nothing short of cowardly but it,s what they all do. So it shows there is a real reluctance to take the big decisions and a lack of courage both individially and on behalf of the so called authorities to correct this scourge of the game. I must say I did enjoy his dance interpretation of the childrens song "the wheels on the bus " | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:13 - Nov 9 with 3333 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:06 - Nov 9 by Toast_R |
Crosses were fine most of the time, there was just no one attacking the ball or cute enough to lose their marker to find the spaces. Austin was a master of that, arriving in the spaces at the right time. |
I thought the crossing was poor, Toast, very poor.
Far often it seemed either too slow, or straight at the first man. |  |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:14 - Nov 9 with 3306 views | gazza1 |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 08:40 - Nov 9 by PinnerPaul |
Inability to work the keeper?
Come on - he was MOTM! |
The Huddersfield keeper was OK, and so were the defenders around him (apart from our goal) but we did not create any real 'proper decent' chances. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:14 - Nov 9 with 3304 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:06 - Nov 9 by Toast_R |
Crosses were fine most of the time, there was just no one attacking the ball or cute enough to lose their marker to find the spaces. Austin was a master of that, arriving in the spaces at the right time. |
Disagree on this, compare those Boswinga type crosses where the ball is sat up in the air with no power to WBA's superb delivery for their goal on Saturday, low trajectory with real pace in front of the attacking player so he can attack the ball,
Losing a marker in a packed penalty box with up to 8 defenders in place by the time a cross belatedly came in is beyond difficult,
Austin was a master of this but not in a penalty box with 8 defenders, Austin and Gray in particular showed their frustration last year with slow ball into the box, probably why Austin only scored 2 goals all season I can recall (WBA + Everton) where a first time cross was delivered at pace. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:24 - Nov 9 with 3240 views | gazza1 |
Last night I thought that the players all put in a decent shift, played reasonably well, however many of the players 'decision making' was poor and the main reason that we did not get 3 points.....yes we put some passes astray, yes we put in some poor crosses, etc, etc but it happens with Championship standard players. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:37 - Nov 9 with 3186 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:06 - Nov 9 by Rangers67 |
I agree with MB that Albert played really well, apart from a couple of poor crosses he was excellent and as for Chair needing coaching, do me a favour . He was the one bright spark out there last night trying to make things happen. He is not perfect but if a couple of the other players put in a shift like he and Albert did then we would not have lost that game. This type of result was always going to happen , it is what we at QPR do. When Chair had the ball last night he was looking for options and if he had one he used it but more often than not he was presented with players playing statues and not moving into space or making runs. As for the ref, well what can you say , there must be a written script in the dressing room issued by the FA which they must adhere to. Otherwise how else do you explain the same scenario being played out game after game, it cannot be co-incedence that even after they equalised at about 10 mins the time wasting started and he didn,t book the keeper until added time in the second half, nothing short of cowardly but it,s what they all do. So it shows there is a real reluctance to take the big decisions and a lack of courage both individially and on behalf of the so called authorities to correct this scourge of the game. I must say I did enjoy his dance interpretation of the childrens song "the wheels on the bus " |
Sure, Chair was trying - very trying. For me, all the limitations and frustrations in his game were on display last night. If you can't see that he hogs the ball and actually limits our options by helping the defending team to organise and get into shape when he plays like that, that's too bad.
Albert saw a lot of the ball, but his deliveries often fell short. His inclusion also inhibited Laird, though Paal wasn't much better on the other side.
Seny needs to look at himself after being caught out by two lobs that made him look like an idiot.
For me, Dunne and Richards' cameo were about the only positives to take. Willock was out of sorts/unfit, Tim did two bad things for every one good thing, and Dykes, despite his tap-in, was Dykes.
As for the shithousery/reffing, like a few people here, it's turning me off football. | |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:41 - Nov 9 with 3189 views | Toast_R |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:13 - Nov 9 by BrianMcCarthy |
I thought the crossing was poor, Toast, very poor.
Far often it seemed either too slow, or straight at the first man. |
Would have liked to have seen someone attacking the ball though getting in-front of the first man, it was all so bloody static in there. | | | |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:46 - Nov 9 with 3152 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:41 - Nov 9 by Toast_R |
Would have liked to have seen someone attacking the ball though getting in-front of the first man, it was all so bloody static in there. |
I agree completely on this. Our midfielders can be too hesitant to risk getting caught beyone the ball. Sometimes I'd like to see us take a chance, go for the headers/volleys off crosses and if you get caught wrong side of the ball, trust your team-mates to cover for you. | |
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| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:48 - Nov 9 with 3135 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Gaffer on tonight's defeat on 10:24 - Nov 9 by gazza1 |
Last night I thought that the players all put in a decent shift, played reasonably well, however many of the players 'decision making' was poor and the main reason that we did not get 3 points.....yes we put some passes astray, yes we put in some poor crosses, etc, etc but it happens with Championship standard players. |
Generally agree Gazza. I donlt think many of them played 'reasonably well' (I'd say sub-standard for quite a few of them, personally) but I agree with the rest of the analysis. It happens sometimes. 36 shots. Improve the decison making, increase the composure and we should improve. | |
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