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Style of play when Charles is in goal 10:44 - Jul 28 with 3588 viewsOakR

Got my first live view of Charles in goal on Saturday, and also Ward.

Charles is obviously very comfortable on the ball, great distribution. It looked to me like we might go back to a slightly more posession based game, passing all the way back to Charles if nothing on,, inviting the press, leaving him to bypass the the press. We seemed to stay very wide, imagine we will do both sides to allow for this and make it more awkward for the opposition especially as full backs seem to almost always 'tuck in' nowdays.

We also have Edwards and in front Madsen (fingers crossed) who are very comfortable on the ball who can also take it short so we can have lots of different options for how we play out.

It will be interesting to see how the latter pans out against a slightly fitter / better at the press team than Fiorentina - probably a few heart in mouth momennts but suspect we will have to sit back and (hopefully) enjoy the ride. We'll also have to accept it will ge wrong periodically, no-one has 100% passing stats, and just hope the positives outweigh any negatives.

I thought Ward looked fine with his feet, but not the same level so suspect our style of play, and the oppositions will change when he is in.

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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 10:59 - Jul 28 with 3471 viewsMalintabuk

I think you are right that Charles is going to be number 1this season... but I was quite impressed with Ward

He certainly seems to want to dominate the box and came for crosses and got them, which I have to be honest I prefer in a keeper

I'm also in a minority here that I thought Charles should have done better with his goal...again saving and not pushing it wide...

It would seem that we are going to favour a loan over a perm...which again doesn't sit easy with me... but if Charles is going to progress us better that Ward we have to accept it
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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 11:24 - Jul 28 with 3367 viewsOakR

Style of play when Charles is in goal on 10:59 - Jul 28 by Malintabuk

I think you are right that Charles is going to be number 1this season... but I was quite impressed with Ward

He certainly seems to want to dominate the box and came for crosses and got them, which I have to be honest I prefer in a keeper

I'm also in a minority here that I thought Charles should have done better with his goal...again saving and not pushing it wide...

It would seem that we are going to favour a loan over a perm...which again doesn't sit easy with me... but if Charles is going to progress us better that Ward we have to accept it


I don't think we really saw how Charles will dominate the box from crosses etc as he didn't really have any to deal with that I remember.

I am in the minority here in that I don't feel it's as important as other things in a keeper, especially the way the game is now played. By that I mean from corners, fre kicks etc keepers are very often blocked from getting anywhere near the ball no matter their ability for taking crosses etc.

That said it potentially gives us two options if Ward is better at taking crosses etc, and we are up against a team that really plays that way, maybe we will swap them out. I also thought Ward looked good to be clear, just different.

Re the loan over a perm, I don't think it matters as long as the loanee can do something and raises the game over a perm. I think it's more of an issue when you get a loan who isn't anything special taking time away from a younger player who could use that year to develop. Coverntry fans were not complaining about their loan keeper last year....

So for me RND was a good loan, Charles hopefully will be as well. A few key, targeted loans can be good. Getting 4/5 on loan who are not that good and disrupt the squad is I would agree a bad idea.

edit to add re the goal conceded by Charles, I'm 50/50. It's very close, hit pretty hard, I though did well to get a hand to it and stop it, very hard to push it round the poast from there. Defenders could also have helped, a lot of ball watching.
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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 11:26 - Jul 28 with 3353 viewsMaggsinho

Style of play when Charles is in goal on 10:59 - Jul 28 by Malintabuk

I think you are right that Charles is going to be number 1this season... but I was quite impressed with Ward

He certainly seems to want to dominate the box and came for crosses and got them, which I have to be honest I prefer in a keeper

I'm also in a minority here that I thought Charles should have done better with his goal...again saving and not pushing it wide...

It would seem that we are going to favour a loan over a perm...which again doesn't sit easy with me... but if Charles is going to progress us better that Ward we have to accept it


Bring in Charles on loan, get promoted and sign him permanently next year. Easy.
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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 12:50 - Jul 28 with 3179 viewsterryb

In all 4 games played so far we've looked to have a 4-1-4-1 system. As we've used 3 different goalkeepers, I doubt that this is dependant on who is in goal.

The player sitting in front of the defence is vital to this as they have to cover, win the ball & distribute it in a forward direction. It looks to me that we have 3 candidates for this role, in the order of Madsen, Varane & Alemayehu.

It may be that we revert to 4-4-2 for some opponents or when we're chasing games.
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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 12:57 - Jul 28 with 3123 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Style of play when Charles is in goal on 12:50 - Jul 28 by terryb

In all 4 games played so far we've looked to have a 4-1-4-1 system. As we've used 3 different goalkeepers, I doubt that this is dependant on who is in goal.

The player sitting in front of the defence is vital to this as they have to cover, win the ball & distribute it in a forward direction. It looks to me that we have 3 candidates for this role, in the order of Madsen, Varane & Alemayehu.

It may be that we revert to 4-4-2 for some opponents or when we're chasing games.


Madsen has been pushed further forward, Varane has the turning circle of an oil tanker and won't pass forward and Alemayehu looks far to slight.

They need to bring in two CMs.

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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 18:59 - Jul 28 with 2812 viewsMyke

Style of play when Charles is in goal on 10:59 - Jul 28 by Malintabuk

I think you are right that Charles is going to be number 1this season... but I was quite impressed with Ward

He certainly seems to want to dominate the box and came for crosses and got them, which I have to be honest I prefer in a keeper

I'm also in a minority here that I thought Charles should have done better with his goal...again saving and not pushing it wide...

It would seem that we are going to favour a loan over a perm...which again doesn't sit easy with me... but if Charles is going to progress us better that Ward we have to accept it


Re Charles goal conceded I agree that he could have done better, by pushing the ball wide of the goal if not actually out for a corner. Julio Cesar was an excellent shot stopper (we gave him lots of practice) but he had this annoying habit of parrying the ball back into traffic instead of away from the goal. He often caused panic in our 6 yard box and played hell with my blood pressure. Wouldn’t like to see that become a thing again especially as I am now 14 years older!
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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 21:06 - Jul 28 with 2512 viewsSommerbreeze

I was hugely impressed by Charles. i thought his distribution was unbelievable and he was very comfortable pinging balls out wide with both feet.

we were down that end for the goal and my first thought was it was an excellent reflex save, very low down. i've not watched it back but i think it would have been very very difficult to get it round the post. so gets a pass from me.

I thought Ward looked good too, but seemed more one-footed than Charles.
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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 21:13 - Jul 28 with 2489 viewsAndybrat

Style of play when Charles is in goal on 12:57 - Jul 28 by Wilkinswatercarrier

Madsen has been pushed further forward, Varane has the turning circle of an oil tanker and won't pass forward and Alemayehu looks far to slight.

They need to bring in two CMs.


Did u watch Varane Saturday? Did I miss something as I saw a forward passing, turn on a sixpence Varane. Cross field pass to Poku perfect in the second half. If he plays like that we only need cover,
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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 22:36 - Jul 28 with 2331 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Style of play when Charles is in goal on 21:13 - Jul 28 by Andybrat

Did u watch Varane Saturday? Did I miss something as I saw a forward passing, turn on a sixpence Varane. Cross field pass to Poku perfect in the second half. If he plays like that we only need cover,


I was there and I can confirm there was zero pressure on him. He won't play like that in the Championship because he won't be given the time or space.
I recall Alfie Tuck looking like Pirlo against Spurs in a pre season game 2 or 3 seasons back. They mean nothing.

We need two more CMs.

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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 22:53 - Jul 28 with 2294 viewsMyke

Style of play when Charles is in goal on 22:36 - Jul 28 by Wilkinswatercarrier

I was there and I can confirm there was zero pressure on him. He won't play like that in the Championship because he won't be given the time or space.
I recall Alfie Tuck looking like Pirlo against Spurs in a pre season game 2 or 3 seasons back. They mean nothing.

We need two more CMs.


You may be right, but equally you cannot discount the possibility that Varane, might yet get the hang of turning and playing forwards. This time last year Madsen was treated with disdain and emerged as our player of the year. IF Varane manages a similar metamorphosis, Chair operates more centrally, Morgan has a full season under his belt, it may just be that one addition in this area to cover the loss of Field is all that is required
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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 23:34 - Jul 28 with 2209 viewsbosh67

If Madsen is out for some time put Ward in goal and move Charles into midfield. He can clearly pass a ball as well if not better than 95% of the squad.

"A goalkeeper is allowed to swap positions with an outfield player. According to the International Football Association Board (IFAB) Laws of the Game, the change can happen at any time as long as it is done during a stoppage in play and the referee is informed first."

Never knowingly right.
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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 23:52 - Jul 28 with 2178 viewskensalriser

Style of play when Charles is in goal on 22:36 - Jul 28 by Wilkinswatercarrier

I was there and I can confirm there was zero pressure on him. He won't play like that in the Championship because he won't be given the time or space.
I recall Alfie Tuck looking like Pirlo against Spurs in a pre season game 2 or 3 seasons back. They mean nothing.

We need two more CMs.


Good luck with that, because two first team CMs aren't going to happen unless someone goes for money.

By the way, is Alemayehu is a defensive midfielder? He seemed to be more in attack on Saturday.

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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 07:40 - Jul 29 with 1910 viewsOakR

Style of play when Charles is in goal on 23:52 - Jul 28 by kensalriser

Good luck with that, because two first team CMs aren't going to happen unless someone goes for money.

By the way, is Alemayehu is a defensive midfielder? He seemed to be more in attack on Saturday.


I think we will bring in one more CM somehow, but not two.

I think there might be a view to see if Alemayehu can break into the team - I agree I see him as more attacking than defensive.

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Style of play when Charles is in goal on 09:26 - Jul 29 with 1712 viewsterryb

Style of play when Charles is in goal on 23:52 - Jul 28 by kensalriser

Good luck with that, because two first team CMs aren't going to happen unless someone goes for money.

By the way, is Alemayehu is a defensive midfielder? He seemed to be more in attack on Saturday.


He was further forward on Saturday, but he was the defensive midfielder in the previous games.

I suspect that he is being viewed this season as cover for both positions.
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