| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers 12:08 - Aug 3 with 12016 views | 1BobbyHazell |
Been reading the pre season threads without getting too much involved but with a week to go and excitement/fear building it's time to get stuck in.
One thing that really strikes me is a lot of us seem to be having trouble letting go of our modus operandi of the last few years. I've just read one thread where someone is demanding the purchase of 6 new players!! F**king ell. Has it really only taken a few years to become such spoilt brats? Have we really already forgotten Summer 'Spending' that involved the likes of solely free transfers like John Curtis (Jesus, remember him!?) and Zesh Rehman, or being in a celebratory daze when we some how managed to raise the 300k for Lee Camp just before The Money Men arrived?
We're fortunate enough to still have some dough so we don't have to go back to the old day's financial restrictions but maybe we should still appreciate that the days of demanding that we plug every perceived weakness in our squad with an instant satisfactory purchase are over, and good job an' all.
I wanted Clement for whatever reasons but now I'm well behind what we are trying to do. Long term plan means just that, it is not all about where we finish this year, more what type of squad we start to build ('start' being the operative word, these things take more than a few months/1 season), what type of football we install as a philosophy (at senior and academy levels), how we deal with and recover from the transition from being a club that had a higher wage bill than Champions League finalists losing near to a quarter of a billion pounds in 3 years to being one with a vastly reduced wage bill and transfer budget that is trying to claw back a few quid without the bottom totally falling out on the pitch, and generally what we put in place off the pitch to provide any chance of mid to long term 'success' - whatever your definition of that may be.
The club and the team is undergoing a massive transformation. We're lucky enough to be able to buy a few promising younger players (which in itself is well worth being grateful for) and hopefully in time that will turn into a squad ready to challenge for promotion and more importantly, as we should all now by know, have a decent shot at staying there without losing 70 million quid a season.
Patience Grasshoppers.
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| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 09:41 - Aug 4 with 2690 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 22:00 - Aug 3 by daveB |
Although I can see the argument that this new idea to spend less and bring in more money is a sign of the owners giving up but it's also a sign they are going to back someone with a long term plan this time rather than a plan for the next few days as they did with Redknapp and Hughes and to a lesser degree Warnock as well.
For me the club had three options this summer.
1 - Spend again, have a real punt at promotion so if we lose Austin replace him with Rhodes, keep hold of the big earners and to hell with FFP. The ramifications of this working or not working would be a certain massive fine for the last season in this league and this one as well. The football league and the clubs would be going all out to get us and that whole relegate to the conference thing would be more a reality next time than it ever was this summer. Spending a fortune again also provides very little certainty that we'd actually get promoted.
2 - Fire sale, get rid of everyone and don't replace them, take another relegation, sell up and leave us in a whole pile of shit as we slip down the divisions and pray for another Holloway.
3 - This is the one we picked. Release all the big earners out of contract even if you want to keep some of them. Accept any offers for the high earners in contract that take the wages off our hands. If we can sell great if not take the loan option as long as we are getting the money, Sign up the best of lower league players and try and find a few bargains abroad in the European market. Don't spend big on them so if they fail we've not lost a fortune. Show willing with FFP in that we are trying to get our finances in order and the days of over spending are over. if we get the chance give our own kids a chance for the odd game or a run in the side, this will send a message out that kids get a chance at QPR and will help attract better kids at the 14/17 year old level which will help the club going forward.
Now option three is the hardest one that requires the most work and the most patience and I am delighted thats what we are trying. It might mean we start the season weak in some areas but doing things the other way has always seen us 2/3 players short despite buying loads and spending loads so at least this way we're not bankrupting ourselves.
It may well fail and I've no idea if Ramsey is the right man to coach the team but to me it looks like Ferdinand is the actual manager here and Ramsey is the Peter Taylor with Les in the Brian Clough role overseeing it all. A modern take on a traditional way of managing in this country. I really hope it works and it's the last chance we have of getting back the QPR of the 80's and 90's that can compete in the top two divisions.
if this fails I really don't know what happens next. |
I think the trouble is, currently we are halfway between option 2 and option 3! Trying to do the right thing, but might actually end up struggling/going down because the Championship is a tough league.
We have signed a few promising lower league players and a few interesting players from abroad - i really like the look of Chery, Luongo etc too. Clearly we're working a more sensible budget which is commendable.
But we've also sold/released/loan a ton of players and not replaced them, leaving us (currently) dangerously weak in certain areas. Losing Caulker, Rio, Dunne and Isla replaced by just Perch for example.
Hopefully this will change either by good management and coaching from Ramsey, players stepping up (Furlong and Yun for example) or through a couple of strategic signings though. |  | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 09:52 - Aug 4 with 2667 views | PinnerPaul |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 15:40 - Aug 3 by Northernr |
Top post and steals the thunder from the Charlton match preview somewhat.
Some of the posts on here and on Twitter I've found really surprising. People going at Fernandes yesterday asking why we're not going for Dwight Gayle like Fulham are, writing off Polter already after two friendlies.
I wonder if we talk a good game. It's something I've thought since Darnell Furlong's three games last year where the sdame people who used to slag Redknapp off for putting square pegs in round holes, never picking a youth teamer, were suddenly saying "well I wouldn't have started Furlong" and saying Karl bloody Henry should have played left back. Similarly there are still people who say our big problem last year was failure to strengthen in January, as if Redknapp had shown in any of his previous transfer windows that letting him add another 6 players would have improved things at all.
If you want the club to be run sensibly and sustainably, buying and scouting players from lower divisions, working on and promoting our youth players, playing a more attractive brand of football, getting the average age of the squad down then you've got your wish because that's what they're doing. But you can't do that in a couple of months, it might take us months or all year to get the squad into this new shape. Strikes me that people's patience isn't going to stretch much further than the Wolves game if we don't win two of the first three. |
Good summary, in fact some people have lost patience in pre season! | | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 10:18 - Aug 4 with 2623 views | daveB |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 09:41 - Aug 4 by adhoc_qpr |
I think the trouble is, currently we are halfway between option 2 and option 3! Trying to do the right thing, but might actually end up struggling/going down because the Championship is a tough league.
We have signed a few promising lower league players and a few interesting players from abroad - i really like the look of Chery, Luongo etc too. Clearly we're working a more sensible budget which is commendable.
But we've also sold/released/loan a ton of players and not replaced them, leaving us (currently) dangerously weak in certain areas. Losing Caulker, Rio, Dunne and Isla replaced by just Perch for example.
Hopefully this will change either by good management and coaching from Ramsey, players stepping up (Furlong and Yun for example) or through a couple of strategic signings though. |
The danger of the option we've gone with is that it can easily go wrong and we go down anyway but we've seen that anything we do can easily go tits up.
I've thought for a while that the transfer window should shut before the season which would stop a lot of the panic, we'd be going into saturday knowing our squad rather than the current situation where we are probably going to add 6 more players and lose 3 or 4. |  | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 11:12 - Aug 4 with 2587 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 10:18 - Aug 4 by daveB |
The danger of the option we've gone with is that it can easily go wrong and we go down anyway but we've seen that anything we do can easily go tits up.
I've thought for a while that the transfer window should shut before the season which would stop a lot of the panic, we'd be going into saturday knowing our squad rather than the current situation where we are probably going to add 6 more players and lose 3 or 4. |
The transfer window thing really bugs me too! The we also have the window for loaning prem rejects who didn't make the 25 man squads too. | | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:55 - Aug 4 with 2519 views | Deano19766 |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 22:33 - Aug 3 by ted_hendrix |
Whew, this thread takes a lot of reading and digestion of other posters thoughts,I can say that I cant remember a time when I've felt less enthusiastic about the season starting.
I no longer share other posters enthusiasm about this Saturdays game and the season kicking off again, I wrote at the end of last season that I was throwing the towel in and giving up on football, not QPR FC but football itself and its obsession with all things Premier league.
I wasn't going to renew my ST and I didn't, I actually phoned the club to get a membership up and running but I didn't even bother doing that after speaking to the bloke in the box office.
Its been Months since the season finished, but I thought and probably believed that in my heart of hearts I'd be back this Saturday on my way to the anoracks ground but It aint happening.
Never thought it would happen but I really don't like football any-more, I detest reading about that manc manager ( go and waste a few more million you cnt) and the god forsaken boring spats between mourino and wenger and man titty's obsession with spending disgusting amounts of money on human beings who are so-so at kicking a fcking football about. Top four bastards.
I've got a huge amount of affection for the club who first let me stand behind the goal in the Loft way back in 1958 to watch us lose, I'll never lose that, Years and Years of continually driving up to LR after work on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon or on a Friday evening or whenever or what ever fcking television company that now runs football says the kick off time should be, it all means nothing to me now.
I'll catch a few games when and where but I'm not planning for It, I'll be following the club now from a distance, I wish the club every success .
Did I tell you about the time driving home from Sunderland's ground after an evening game in an Escort van, 4 of us and one of them a bloody Sunderland fan too, 5 bleeding hours in a stinky Escort van, those were the days, they really were. |
^ This. Well put. | | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 13:41 - Aug 4 with 2477 views | R_from_afar |
I just want to see a QPR where both on and off the field, people:
- Work to a clear, sensible plan
- Put in maximum effort, all the time
- Fully commit to the QPR cause
- Show they are proud to be at Rangers and show that they care about the club, its fans and its traditions
- Buy into the team ethic and pull together.
This is what I want and I actually feel reasonably confident that we can achieve all that, based on what I have seen so far.
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| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 13:54 - Aug 4 with 2461 views | LowerloftLad |
The QPR team of 2004 are not coming back so im in no rush to chuck £60.00 plus quid away. I still love QPR but its not fun going anymore. It's about £££ and tweets ill be checking the score if I'm not having to much fun at ascot Saturday. I just hope the fans that payed good money don't get a repeat of what I paid last time i went to watch Charlton away💩. [Post edited 4 Aug 2015 14:03]
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| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 14:00 - Aug 4 with 2438 views | wgchoop |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 13:41 - Aug 4 by R_from_afar |
I just want to see a QPR where both on and off the field, people:
- Work to a clear, sensible plan
- Put in maximum effort, all the time
- Fully commit to the QPR cause
- Show they are proud to be at Rangers and show that they care about the club, its fans and its traditions
- Buy into the team ethic and pull together.
This is what I want and I actually feel reasonably confident that we can achieve all that, based on what I have seen so far.
RFA |
This my hope is just for a team that tries and gives a dam don't care about losing that happens in football but as long as they give 100% and don't walk off laughing after a defeat I'll pay my money and enjoy the football game as that's all it is at the end of the day a game.all the off field crap doesn't intrest me |  | | |
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| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 14:02 - Aug 4 with 2423 views | Hooped_Pullie |
So many putting cards on the table here & opening their hearts.
For the (very) little it's worth, here's mine :-
Looking back over the last ten or eleven years (I could go back further, but won't) it has been one hell of a ride. From getting back to the second tier after three years away - and briefly threatening the top six that season - we retreated to the lower end we're all so familiar with. Then the Paladini fiascos, Briatore and Ecclestone, hope of better things at last.
We 'invested' in a merry-go-round of managers but more significantly - gradually - in a solid (if unexciting) Championship squad…Delaney and the others who arrived around then were top-half second level players.
Boredom, torpor and eventually a high level of dissatisfaction all round ensued. Mid-table, not as expected for a shiny new boutique club.
Eventually…Warnock arrives, signs good Championship players (let's face it, that's what they were, Gorkss, Connolly, Hill & Derry et al) adds a crucial wild card in Adel - making sure we had a top keeper - and away we go.
Season 2010/11 was probably the most enjoyable of my footballing life, and despite off-field shenanigans we were rightly rewarded with the title.
Since then…tits up all the way. Warnock sacked too soon, Hughes a disaster (for the only time in his managerial career !!!) a succession of grossly overpaid flunkers, Redknobb (Jesus wept) and a relegated team of internationals stumbling back to the promised land on one remarkable Wembley day.
Followed by the season-long farkup to end all farkups, and there we are.
How does TF and the Club respond ? Leaving aside FFP, it seems to me there were three choices :
One, get in a big name manager, keep the Prem squad together with notice of intent, spend big on players,
gamble all on getting straight back.
Risky, costly and not going to happen.
Two, go with youth and source some cheaper, younger and less vaunted players from Europe to add to the core of young players already at the Club. Have the man in charge primarily a youth coach so (in theory) he knows how to get the best out of the squad. Conserve the millions flowing in to the place from Sterling, player sales, and parachute money : can be used to offset losses, or maybe, if we're unlucky, for the FFP fine. More or less, 'decide' not to challenge for promotion, but to 'consolidate', maybe eventually in League One.
Also risky, but we have opted for it.
Three, react to relegation by bringing in an experienced Championship coach with a proven track record (e.g., Adkins) and, having sold or loaned out the big names, sign back in a squad of similar quality and value to that put together by Warnock including a few on free transfers, maybe paying six figures for a couple of Orrs or Helgusons. Instead of relying on youth, augment this approach by adding in a couple who seem to be ready for it from the younger ranks. The public message : it'll be tough, but we're aiming for top six.
You takes your choice. I would have gone for option three - it makes the most sense for our Club, and gets us back to basics albeit in the right way, and without the megabucks approach. Option two is too risky and too drastic a change from where we were. I will be very surprised if we're not scrapping at the bottom all season, and the natives WILL get restless fast. Inexperienced coach and inexperienced players in the English Championship ?
Sorry folks, we are asking for trouble. | | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 15:20 - Aug 4 with 2368 views | mrchubbaman |
Well said Bobby, couldn't agree more, time to regroup and rebuild. Bring back the old rangers that looked to the youth system and academies. One thing i will say though is our defence is looking a little depleted. Not asking for a 10m centre back but one or two more defenders challenging for first team football would be great. | | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 03:50 - Aug 5 with 2264 views | Bushman |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 14:02 - Aug 4 by Hooped_Pullie |
So many putting cards on the table here & opening their hearts.
For the (very) little it's worth, here's mine :-
Looking back over the last ten or eleven years (I could go back further, but won't) it has been one hell of a ride. From getting back to the second tier after three years away - and briefly threatening the top six that season - we retreated to the lower end we're all so familiar with. Then the Paladini fiascos, Briatore and Ecclestone, hope of better things at last.
We 'invested' in a merry-go-round of managers but more significantly - gradually - in a solid (if unexciting) Championship squad…Delaney and the others who arrived around then were top-half second level players.
Boredom, torpor and eventually a high level of dissatisfaction all round ensued. Mid-table, not as expected for a shiny new boutique club.
Eventually…Warnock arrives, signs good Championship players (let's face it, that's what they were, Gorkss, Connolly, Hill & Derry et al) adds a crucial wild card in Adel - making sure we had a top keeper - and away we go.
Season 2010/11 was probably the most enjoyable of my footballing life, and despite off-field shenanigans we were rightly rewarded with the title.
Since then…tits up all the way. Warnock sacked too soon, Hughes a disaster (for the only time in his managerial career !!!) a succession of grossly overpaid flunkers, Redknobb (Jesus wept) and a relegated team of internationals stumbling back to the promised land on one remarkable Wembley day.
Followed by the season-long farkup to end all farkups, and there we are.
How does TF and the Club respond ? Leaving aside FFP, it seems to me there were three choices :
One, get in a big name manager, keep the Prem squad together with notice of intent, spend big on players,
gamble all on getting straight back.
Risky, costly and not going to happen.
Two, go with youth and source some cheaper, younger and less vaunted players from Europe to add to the core of young players already at the Club. Have the man in charge primarily a youth coach so (in theory) he knows how to get the best out of the squad. Conserve the millions flowing in to the place from Sterling, player sales, and parachute money : can be used to offset losses, or maybe, if we're unlucky, for the FFP fine. More or less, 'decide' not to challenge for promotion, but to 'consolidate', maybe eventually in League One.
Also risky, but we have opted for it.
Three, react to relegation by bringing in an experienced Championship coach with a proven track record (e.g., Adkins) and, having sold or loaned out the big names, sign back in a squad of similar quality and value to that put together by Warnock including a few on free transfers, maybe paying six figures for a couple of Orrs or Helgusons. Instead of relying on youth, augment this approach by adding in a couple who seem to be ready for it from the younger ranks. The public message : it'll be tough, but we're aiming for top six.
You takes your choice. I would have gone for option three - it makes the most sense for our Club, and gets us back to basics albeit in the right way, and without the megabucks approach. Option two is too risky and too drastic a change from where we were. I will be very surprised if we're not scrapping at the bottom all season, and the natives WILL get restless fast. Inexperienced coach and inexperienced players in the English Championship ?
Sorry folks, we are asking for trouble. |
Top post but I don't think ( hope!) we will be relegated.
Option 3 would have been the most pragmatic approach. IMHO. |  |
| I know almost nothing about the Premier League even though I try to catch the big games every now and then at the end of the season. But I will say this, Queens Park Rangers is just a fukking sick ass team name. Just sounds so cool. |
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| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 04:52 - Aug 5 with 2243 views | georgiosfs |
Great thread guys.
As a club we have been gambling and losing for the best part of the last 5-7 years. and besides the one being talked about now, the previous time I saw a glimmer of a plan was with Warnock but even then he was afforded a nice fat squad to ensure we didn't fail.
So for now, I am glad that we have gone and loaned in guys like Konchesky. There is nothing glamorous about him but we have decent players that are contracted to us long term that can play as LB but are injured so it is wise and It is being sensible and understanding that buying big doesn't mean shit.
I shudder to think that if we were still gambling and pissing away our loot as a club we would of purchased Ashley Cole on a 2 year deal now and wondering why we keep making the same mistakes. |  | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 05:08 - Aug 9 with 2107 views | FredManRave |
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| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:23 - Aug 10 with 1973 views | simmo |
Good post and still valid, despite the drama.
It's a transition for not just the club, but also for us as fans and how we support the club. It's much more closely related to how we were before Flavio years, which is persoanlly what I preferred. So I am happy, optimistic and a little relieved that we are starting to make changes and move away from the last few years. Losing more and having patchy performances and results are all part of that - but that's fine, I don't support and love QPR because of the winning! |  |
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| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:29 - Aug 10 with 1959 views | YorkRanger |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:23 - Aug 10 by simmo |
Good post and still valid, despite the drama.
It's a transition for not just the club, but also for us as fans and how we support the club. It's much more closely related to how we were before Flavio years, which is persoanlly what I preferred. So I am happy, optimistic and a little relieved that we are starting to make changes and move away from the last few years. Losing more and having patchy performances and results are all part of that - but that's fine, I don't support and love QPR because of the winning! |
+1
I'm staggered at the reaction after Saturday. I know on the day some of the reaction would have been alcohol fuelled, but I did think on here there would have been a more reasoned response given the extensive changes that have taken place during the summer and the challenges during pre-season.
We will lose games this season, probably a lot of games. We are, however,rebuilding the team and reshaping the ethos of the club and that takes time. In my opinion Ramsey has come in for a lot of unfair criticism. Will he ultimately be successful, who knows? but what we should know is that judgment cannot be made after one game.
I think August will be a tough month and my expectations are low. As we move into September and hopefully the team has gelled and we are clear on our playing staff for the coming months I hope things will settle and results will follow.
Keep the faith. Many of us can remember the dark days, we are a long way removed from then but we need to be patient. |  | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:29 - Aug 10 with 1956 views | GetMeRangers |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 17:08 - Aug 3 by Neil_SI |
I'm thoroughly looking forward to the season and have been pleased with the work we've done over the summer. It's a big job, it could go right or wrong, but I'm encouraged by what I've seen and excited by the unknown.
It's the unknown that puts me on the edge of my seat. I've not looked forward to a season as much as this one in years. It could quickly turn sour of course, but hopefully it won't.
It's about time our football club became about skills again, and not driven by money or greed. Never be afraid of hard work or where it can get you. |
That makes two of us. Glad I am not alone |  | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:38 - Aug 10 with 1943 views | simmo |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 16:06 - Aug 3 by Antti_Heinola |
Spot on and I worry about that too. People saying things like 'if we're going to challenge' or 'to get out of this league you need...'
My big concern is we may not start quickly. i really pray for Ramsey that he gets an early win because otherwise it'll get ugly on here, which will be a shame. I'm not convinced he's the man for us, yet, but we have to give him a proper crack of the whip.
People going on about transfers etc 'not being rocket science' make me despair - the job this summer has been enormous, and I'm actually pretty staggered that they (seem) to have done as well as they have.
I'll be more than happy with a fitter, sharper, faster, more adaptable team, some attacking intent home and away, and a clear eye on the future. If that means finishing 14th this season, or even lower, then fine, as long as it feels like we're moving forward - even if it means we have to take a step back to do it.
If you look at last season's table, 4 of the top 6 finished in and around mid-table the previous year (Bournemouth 10th, Watford 13th, Middlesbrough 12th, Ipswich 9th), one was in the league below (Brentford), another (Norwich) in the league above. I really don't care if we don't challenge this season to go up. What matters is righting a lot of wrongs, which'll take more than one pre-season. If we can then build on that next season - brilliant. |
Tend to agree with most of what you say, Antti - but this last sentence in particular is a great point and exactly how I feel. Those finishing places for Bournemouth, Watford, Boro, etc should be used as examples of progression and how stability should be seen as success - not failure or regression | |
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| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:41 - Aug 10 with 1938 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:29 - Aug 10 by YorkRanger |
+1
I'm staggered at the reaction after Saturday. I know on the day some of the reaction would have been alcohol fuelled, but I did think on here there would have been a more reasoned response given the extensive changes that have taken place during the summer and the challenges during pre-season.
We will lose games this season, probably a lot of games. We are, however,rebuilding the team and reshaping the ethos of the club and that takes time. In my opinion Ramsey has come in for a lot of unfair criticism. Will he ultimately be successful, who knows? but what we should know is that judgment cannot be made after one game.
I think August will be a tough month and my expectations are low. As we move into September and hopefully the team has gelled and we are clear on our playing staff for the coming months I hope things will settle and results will follow.
Keep the faith. Many of us can remember the dark days, we are a long way removed from then but we need to be patient. |
"Keep the faith."
This is the kind of statement i have trouble with, i'd rather look at the evidence myself than blindly assume people at the club know what they are doing (they usually don't).
Evidence is limited so far to one game and a predictably chaotic summer - difficult to make any rational decision yet without the full picture. End of September will see the window closed and 10 games played, so that would seem ample evidence.
But i certainly don't blame people for being worried that long standing issues with the defence, fullbacks, concentration, Ramsey's in-game management etc are still very present. | | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:45 - Aug 10 with 1929 views | YorkRanger |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:41 - Aug 10 by adhoc_qpr |
"Keep the faith."
This is the kind of statement i have trouble with, i'd rather look at the evidence myself than blindly assume people at the club know what they are doing (they usually don't).
Evidence is limited so far to one game and a predictably chaotic summer - difficult to make any rational decision yet without the full picture. End of September will see the window closed and 10 games played, so that would seem ample evidence.
But i certainly don't blame people for being worried that long standing issues with the defence, fullbacks, concentration, Ramsey's in-game management etc are still very present. |
I accept to keep the faith you have to have some faith in the first place.
Don't get me wrong I have some concerns the same as the next man. However I'm simply advocating that having patience and giving the team a bit of time to gel, is preferred to writing it off after one game. | | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 13:08 - Aug 10 with 1903 views | SpiritofGregory |
When we appointed Warnock we went through a major transition. We had come through the madness of having Flavio in charge and a series of useless signings.
The difference between then and now is we had sensible Amit running the club and the right manager. Warnock worked with the board to pinpoint the type of characters we needed to gain promotion. There was an overhaul of the playing staff, business was swift, we didn't spend a fortune and Warnock organised the perfect pre- season. I remember that team being in tip top shape at the start of the season and we knew it was going to be our year.
Unfortunately Flavio came back and all the hard work was unravelled, we ended up with Fernandes in charge and he has made one bad mistake after another. If you want to be successful you must have the right people in charge. |  | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 15:51 - Aug 10 with 1836 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 12:45 - Aug 10 by YorkRanger |
I accept to keep the faith you have to have some faith in the first place.
Don't get me wrong I have some concerns the same as the next man. However I'm simply advocating that having patience and giving the team a bit of time to gel, is preferred to writing it off after one game. |
"Time to gel" is another bugbear of mine - it reminds me of all the people saying Mark Hughes managed teams take 10 games to 'gel' and then will be fine...
How long have Charlton had to gel for example?
As i said though, too early to make judgements. | | | |
| Trouble adjusting to the new Rangers on 16:53 - Aug 10 with 1793 views | vegasranger |
If we really have a long term ( which I don't believe seeing the signings of Perch and Konchesky ) surely you start with a state of the art training ground and competent youth set up? I would love to do a comparison between the Swansea training set up and ours. Our team as per usual isn't fit. What background of worth does Carl Serrant have to be our fitness coach? I see we have now found a new Goalkeeping Coach with the CV ( player and coach ) of the lower leagues. Doesn't mean he isn't any good ( top players don't often make great managers or coaches ) but it doesn't fill me with confidence that we have someone who is going to improve our goalkeepers. Paul Hall is now our Senior Professional Development Coach, what experience does he have to improve our poor youth set up? Don't see anything new and exciting. Just jobs for the mates. | | | |
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